No no no. You forget we live in the land of double standard. Murica. Where folks will criticize Keion for a bad take, but have a world view the size of a backyard.
Just turned on the Gonzaga vs. Washington game…
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Bull crap. He decided to quit on the team because he lost the starting position to Wallace after injury. And it was evident to anyone that Wallace was the better option at that point. Don't try to put that on the fans. That's nonsense.
Mostly nonsense. There was a section of the fanbase that rode him like a mule.
That's not the reason he left (as far as we know); but let's be honest. There were some that absolutely hated that dude.
I'm glad Brooks and Wheeler are gone. I couldn't care less how their team does.
This is Kentucky. You are going to get a lot of attention. Positive and negative.
Most of the criticism I saw was rightfully aimed at Calipari for stubbornly insisting on playing him until an injury (supposedly) made the right decision for him. I seriously doubt he was reading these boards anyway.
Is it sad I thought the other poster was using satire? Didn't know we had some Wheeler lovers on this board.
I prefer the term selective agitator. I’m not out here wasting anyone’s time. I’ll talk soem
Ball and talk some shit. The latter isn’t for everyone.
You were the first out of the gate with it and man you were emphatic. You were right in the end. Salute
It is documented that Washington and Grady were not fully healthy. Cal had to work around that fact. I get your point though.
I'm not a Wheeler lover. I was just sick of the pathetic way many fans treated him.
Injuries were a big part of the downfall of that team, but when healthy the lineup I mentioned was the one to roll with and Cal wasn’t using that lineup because he wanted Wheeler running the show.
When that team was healthy they ran KU of their own floor with Wheeler getting 34 minutes. Wheeler fit in with that team a lot better than he did with last year's team. I think to an extent people are taking what they saw last year and applying it to both of his years here.
If he quit because of a forum upset at his performance then, no offense, but he has to much b$tch in his blood to be a leader of a team. He quit because he lost his starting spot. He was fine the game before with the fans upset, the game after he was done.
The way some people like to blame everything on the RR posters who vocally don’t support substandard performances is truely amazing.
What did the fans do to him?
Stuff said on a fanatic message board isn't that big a deal IMO.
You think it was only on the message board? I remember hearing the boos at Rupp. Nevermind the idiotic jerks on social media.
I'm not talking about just here. And I agree that the attention will be high as well as the pressure. I'm not defending Wheeler at all. I'm also not defending some of the things I saw across the net about him either.
I didn't blame that at all. Not once. Just merely stated I saw some pretty crappy things said about him across the net.
This was long before the days of social media (thank goodness) and before I was round these parts on the board. But I can give anecdotal evidence of some folks not liking Tubby for a a very stupid reason. Now, keep in mind, this was a very very few people and in portions of this state not know to be too accepting of well, really anyone tbh. It was sad to hear.
I don't think the fan base in general ran Tubby off, but the pressure was building for sure. Tubby left at the right time. And it worked out for both (mostly- we got stuck with a raving drunken person- thanks Mitch).
Tubby did mostly right here. Never missed the tourney; had good teams.
I didn’t like Wheeler much that year either. Yes, we beat UNC and KU badly that season, but Wheeler was not a championship (or even Final Four) level PG. He was not leading us on a deep run as our primary PG, IMHO. Too many liability issues with his size and shooting. He should have been a reserve. It took almost two years for Cal to figure that out.
I still can't believe Askew was actually a Kentucky player. One of the worst recruits ever. I'd take Saul Smith over Askew.
We’ve been fortunate to have very few mediocre to bad point guards come through here. So when we do have one they really stick out.
Off the top of my head, just since the late 80’s the only ones i can think of are Saul, Porter, Askew, Wheeler and Green. And Green really wasn’t terrible for a freshman. But he was essentially handed the starting spot twice and got beat out both times.
But Askew replaced Porter as the worst in my lifetime.
Off the top of my head, just since the late 80’s the only ones i can think of are Saul, Porter, Askew, Wheeler and Green. And Green really wasn’t terrible for a freshman. But he was essentially handed the starting spot twice and got beat out both times.
But Askew replaced Porter as the worst in my lifetime.
To be fair, THIS game DID have some bearing on UK basketball, since we actually play Gonzaga and need them to have as few losses as possible when figuring SOS. Otherwise, I get your point.
Damn right I am, Tubby had to put up with so much negativity from the fans concerning Saul, 10 losses, flame out in Tournament, that he got tired of hearing all of the negativity and left. Now only if Cal would get the message.
The fan base as a whole did not. But Tubby did have his detractors, and some of that was sadly not based on basketball philosophy. Which is very sad, because Tubby is a great human being.
