Before anyone asks if this guy is legitimate all I can say is he is followed by some of the bigger names in recruiting like Joe Tipton and such. Seems to have a good track record. Pilgrim is reporting the same today as well.
The Lewis hype and him coming to Kentucky I’m fully on board with now. I think Lewis will be a cat. Wilson I’m still TBT because he has visits left still. But either way it’s great to see pope and this staff are making noise in recruitingBefore anyone asks if this guy is legitimate all I can say is he is followed by some of the bigger names in recruiting like Joe Tipton and such. Seems to have a good track record. Pilgrim is reporting the same today as well.
That would be freaking sweet and honestly huge for the staff to get a class of this caliber. Getting a player ranked that high out of state early.Before anyone asks if this guy is legitimate all I can say is he is followed by some of the bigger names in recruiting like Joe Tipton and such. Seems to have a good track record. Pilgrim is reporting the same today as well.
And there were those that was worried that Mark Pope might not be able to recruit at a level that would satisfy UK fans..... Put that worry to rest. Any coach with an ounce of work ethic can recruit at a high level at Kentucky, especially if he's got a personality like Mark Pope & plays a free wheeling style of offense that Pope coaches.The Lewis hype and him coming to Kentucky I’m fully on board with now. I think Lewis will be a cat. Wilson I’m still TBT because he has visits left still. But either way it’s great to see pope and this staff are making noise in recruiting
He needs to land them first, but I agreeAnd there were those that was worried that Mark Pope might not be able to recruit at a level that would satisfy UK fans..... Put that worry to rest. Any coach with an ounce of work ethic can recruit at a high level at Kentucky, especially if he's got a personality like Mark Pope & plays a free wheeling style of offense that Pope coaches.
That's great if we get these two to go with Moreno and Jasper but let's stop at four freshmen. If we get our 5 returnees plus 4 freshmen, that leaves room for a few transfers. I just don't think having a court full of freshmen is the way to go.
Let's see what happens -- either case we are making strides. Cal did this every year, but it didn't necessarily translate into results on court. I get the sense Coach Pope cares a lot more about being a good custodian for UK than his own legacy. I suspect he will aim to craft rosters that have the ability to driving continuity of players and better outcomes in the post season.We are much better off with Pope at the helm AND at this point if he signs these two guys how could someone argue keeping Cal would have been better? Most average DI coaches will coach circles around Cal so this is winning on so many levels and not having to deal with the same Cal platitudes. It reminds me of Trump talking about winning and winning so much that people will be begging him to stop winning because they can't take it anymore. LOL!!!
I'm so glad Cal's gone.
No doubt we need to take a wait and see approach. He needs to produce wins.Let's see what happens -- either case we are making strides. Cal did this every year, but it didn't necessarily translate into results on court. I get the sense Coach Pope cares a lot more about being a good custodian for UK than his own legacy. I suspect he will aim to craft rosters that have the ability to driving continuity of players and better outcomes in the post season.
I gotta say, it would be kind of funny if the first full class from Pope is full of great freshman who go pro after a year.That's great if we get these two to go with Moreno and Jasper but let's stop at four freshmen. If we get our 5 returnees plus 4 freshmen, that leaves room for a few transfers. I just don't think having a court full of freshmen is the way to go.
I'm with you on this one. Get those guys and call it a day. Then shop the portal to complete the roster and get the guys returning, like you mentioned, and I think we would be looking at a very good team next season. Let's keep our fingers crossed.That's great if we get these two to go with Moreno and Jasper but let's stop at four freshmen. If we get our 5 returnees plus 4 freshmen, that leaves room for a few transfers. I just don't think having a court full of freshmen is the way to go.
Similar to how Tayshaun Prince got the ball rolling for Tubby early on.That would be freaking sweet and honestly huge for the staff to get a class of this caliber. Getting a player ranked that high out of state early.
You're fighting a losing war if you expect people on a Kentucky sports message board to suddenly stop talking about a guy who left our program a few months ago for a conference rival.Just can't keep it about the recruits and thread topic. ALWAYS has to turn into a Pope v/s Cal thread. Let it go, Cal is gone. IF Pope has as great of a first 5 year run Cal had, I will be very happy. He is replacing some very big shoes. Not saying I wanted Cal to stay (I did not), but his first 5/8 years was super. IF Pope does that, we all will be very happy.
I'd be okay with that as long as it translates to winning on the court.I gotta say, it would be kind of funny if the first full class from Pope is full of great freshman who go pro after a year.
We need to get away from one & done kids. Not just Cal but no other coach wins big with freshmen that leave after their freshman class. I will promise you, Wilson is a one & done kid.I gotta say, it would be kind of funny if the first full class from Pope is full of great freshman who go pro after a year.
I get your point, but Stephon Castle from last year’s UConn team says that is not completely correct. One and done, NCAA Champion and top 5 draft pick. You are not likely to do it with a team full or team dominated by Freshman, but you can do it with the right one and done.We need to get away from one & done kids. Not just Cal but no other coach wins big with freshmen that leave after their freshman class. I will promise you, Wilson is a one & done kid.
Thanks for the info let us know batman itching to do the BATUSI 😃Before anyone asks if this guy is legitimate all I can say is he is followed by some of the bigger names in recruiting like Joe Tipton and such. Seems to have a good track record. Pilgrim is reporting the same today as well.
And there were those that was worried that Mark Pope might not be able to recruit at a level that would satisfy UK fans..... Put that worry to rest. Any coach with an ounce of work ethic can recruit at a high level at Kentucky, especially if he's got a personality like Mark Pope & plays a free wheeling style of offense that Pope coaches.
I agree, win and win big and make a good showing in the tournament. Reload with shooters that will see how we play and that will recruit its self. Similar to Bama but a better coach. IMOI'd be okay with that as long as it translates to winning on the court.
Perfect first class for pope, let’s hope he closes this outMoreno, JJ, Lewis, and Wilson would be a helluva class
Comparing Pope and Cal is an insult to Pope. He has done nothing but shown that the university and the program ranks above players and NBA. He has done nothing but promoted Kentucky since his arrival. He has shown Kentucky players that the state's largest university has a scholarship for them if they are up to the challenge. It also appears that the bait he uses is the name on the front of the jersey and his coaching style instead of an OAD promise to the NBA.Let's see what happens -- either case we are making strides. Cal did this every year, but it didn't necessarily translate into results on court. I get the sense Coach Pope cares a lot more about being a good custodian for UK than his own legacy. I suspect he will aim to craft rosters that have the ability to driving continuity of players and better outcomes in the post season.
Five Top 25 recruits is a little ambitious,.. If we get 5, personally I would like to see 1 of the remaining three be a SF/PF around the 6'8" range who knows he is coming in for some minor PT this year, but has the potential to get solid minutes, maybe starter minutes in years 2 & 3. I am thinking of a player from the 35-75 range. Someone like a Nikolas Khamenia or Aleks Alston(not sure what his stats are, but has a nice stroke and looks to have reach/defensive potential). Not saying we should or could get either, but someone who isn't quite top tier, but close, wants to win, has some upside and is willing to develop at a very top level school.Five top-25 freshmen, 5 returnees, and round out the rest of the roster with developmental players from the portal, JUCO, and high school. The big roster churn can end quickly.
I totally agree about getting guys who can develop. I’d love to find an Isaac Humphries. But when it comes to filling out the rotation for next year, I prefer fall high school recruiting over late spring portal shopping. If we have an early draft entry or transfer, then use the portal.Five Top 25 recruits is a little ambitious,.. If we get 5, personally I would like to see 1 of the remaining three be a SF/PF around the 6'8" range who knows he is coming in for some minor PT this year, but has the potential to get solid minutes, maybe starter minutes in years 2 & 3. I am thinking of a player from the 35-75 range. Someone like a Nikolas Khamenia or Aleks Alston(not sure what his stats are, but has a nice stroke and looks to have reach/defensive potential). Not saying we should or could get either, but someone who isn't quite top tier, but close, wants to win, has some upside and is willing to develop at a very top level school.
If you are recruiting guys out of High School who cannot provide some solid minutes by year 2, we are not likely recruiting the right guys. Those are guys that will eventually end up somewhere else and at the same time, I just don't believe you can successfully turnover 7-8 guys every year whether from one-n-done or portal. Some of these guys have to be somewhat a diamond in the rough.
I think we should save at least 2 spots or plan for them at least for 2 impact transfers a year. There will always be some super talented upperclassmen who can transform a team.I totally agree about getting guys who can develop. I’d love to find an Isaac Humphries. But when it comes to filling out the rotation for next year, I prefer fall high school recruiting over late spring portal shopping. If we have an early draft entry or transfer, then use the portal.
Wilson said that he'd choose by November or December. Sounds like Lewis could pop at any time.When do they decide?
Yes Pope is replacing some big shoes from ccc's 1st 5 years, but not the last 8 years or so. They were pretty much forgettable, with some even embarrassing. If you want to slobber all over ccc and say he was the greatest thing since sunshine, go ahead. Me, I think he was an over paid used car salesman that thumbed his nose at the university, his boss, the fans, and the tradition. He was/is an arrogant clown that could not out coach a grade school coach. He could not accept the fact that the fans could see thru his games and favoritism which caused unacceptable losses to inferior opponents and the inability to compete with top tier teams. In the end, this same arrogance cost him his job @ UK. For that, I am grateful.Just can't keep it about the recruits and thread topic. ALWAYS has to turn into a Pope v/s Cal thread. Let it go, Cal is gone. IF Pope has as great of a first 5 year run Cal had, I will be very happy. He is replacing some very big shoes. Not saying I wanted Cal to stay (I did not), but his first 5/8 years was super. IF Pope does that, we all will be very happy.
Well said and you were probably too kind.Yes Pope is replacing some big shoes from ccc's 1st 5 years, but not the last 8 years or so. They were pretty much forgettable, with some even embarrassing. If you want to slobber all over ccc and say he was the greatest thing since sunshine, go ahead. Me, I think he was an over paid used car salesman that thumbed his nose at the university, his boss, the fans, and the tradition. He was/is an arrogant clown that could not out coach a grade school coach. He could not accept the fact that the fans could see thru his games and favoritism which caused unacceptable losses to inferior opponents and the inability to compete with top tier teams. In the end, this same arrogance cost him his job @ UK. For that, I am grateful.
I definitely want this to be true and for roster churn to end, but will playing time and the potential of the NBA draft prevent year-to-year continuity ?? If we get the "right guys" and the NIL$$$ is sufficient, I assume continuity can be the usual going forward. GO CATS !!Five top-25 freshmen, 5 returnees, and round out the rest of the roster with developmental players from the portal, JUCO, and high school. The big roster churn can end quickly.
Didn’t necessarily translate into results on the court? Didn’t translate into results on the court.Let's see what happens -- either case we are making strides. Cal did this every year, but it didn't necessarily translate into results on court. I get the sense Coach Pope cares a lot more about being a good custodian for UK than his own legacy. I suspect he will aim to craft rosters that have the ability to driving continuity of players and better outcomes in the post season.
Add a pure pass first PG, a starter quality SF and a backup/stretch 4 from the portal and that roster is complete.RCSI
#4 Wilson 6-9 205
#12 Johnson 6-4 180
#27 Moreno 7-0 245
#34 Lewis 6-2 185
to go with
SR- Oweh 6-5 210
JR- Garrison 6-11 245
SO- Chandler 6-5 190
SO- Perry 6-1 180
SO- Noah 6-6 210
SR- Horn 6-4 185
SR- Darbyshire 6-3 190
add a couple upperclassmen to that roster and look out.
OK, obviously you do not possess reading comprehension skills. Did you not read the part where I said "I wanted Cal gone" ? But I will bite and break down your BS that the first 5 years was all Cal did good.Yes Pope is replacing some big shoes from ccc's 1st 5 years, but not the last 8 years or so. They were pretty much forgettable, with some even embarrassing. If you want to slobber all over ccc and say he was the greatest thing since sunshine, go ahead. Me, I think he was an over paid used car salesman that thumbed his nose at the university, his boss, the fans, and the tradition. He was/is an arrogant clown that could not out coach a grade school coach. He could not accept the fact that the fans could see thru his games and favoritism which caused unacceptable losses to inferior opponents and the inability to compete with top tier teams. In the end, this same arrogance cost him his job @ UK. For that, I am grateful.