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Is Oweh’s return less likely ?

I think he actually does. These coaches talk to him regularly and can easily say what’s common without breaking out names. They’ve told him the going rates they just use the grade of the player not the names and I’m sure some actually have leaked names. Goodman is valuable to some of these coaches more than many realize. He’s a go to in the CBB game and they want the press.

Leaking happens constantly even with NDA or classified information. As in non stop actually. There’s no way the numbers on these players hasn’t been leaked out, and Goodman would definitely be one to know because he’s got tons of contacts with not just assistant coaches but coaches at every level of this. I don’t know why anyone would doubt it, you don’t need the players to say anything but agents also float this stuff also for numerous reasons. Yea it’s been out there leaking happens at every level of everything.

You are forgetting one big problem with this mostly correct assertion.

People lie.
 
Yea some people lie but Goodman shouldn’t have any trouble getting coaches and agents to leak his some stuff about what’s happening. When 3 coaches and 3 agents all say the same thing I’d imagine that’s fairly reliable.
Goodman is a joke, just like all the media people they just post things to try to keep relevant and get clicks.
 
Goodman is a joke, just like all the media people they just post things to try to keep relevant and get clicks.

Goodman has legitimate contacts. Probably more contacts than just about any media person in the game. Nobody that’s a national writer for CBB would ever question that. I’m not a fan of Goodman but he absolutely has some of the best contacts you’re gonna see. I know a national beat writer and we’ve talked several times about how little Goodman is liked but he does have sources even he uses.

Goodman has some of the games best coaches in his contacts and also agents. Yes he is getting information leaked to him 100%.

Doesn’t seem you understand too much about it.
 
The truth is, Oweh's stock is actually higher than what the mock drafts suggest.
Why would you think that?

If we went strictly by mock drafts, he probably wouldn’t have even received a combine invite, and that list, voted on by NBA executives, reflects the real draft prospect much more accurately than mock drafts do.
That's factually inaccurate. There are 75 invites/attendees. Some turn it down. So it's, give or take, the top 80. He's easily inside that.

I don’t think shooting mechanics are that big of a deal. His shot isn’t that bad, he shot 35% from three and 77% from the free-throw line. That’s ok shooting (not great but ok)
He shot 35% basically playing H-O-R-S-E from 3. His shots were spot ups and he had plenty of time to get them off. Mechanics are a HUGE thing, given Oweh's faults with his mechanics. It's a slow release that covers his eyes when he pulls the ball up and it's also a motion that makes it really complicated to get to his shot off of the bounce. He's basically committed to a set shot given where the ball is and the path it takes to get to his release. Not to mention he's shooting it from 2-3' further back in the NBA.
 
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I always think in these situations--what alternative answers can you really give?

"No, I'm not taking this process that seriously. I'm really looking forward to getting back to Kentucky. I'm just here to waste ya'lls time."

Of course he'd like to be drafted 1st round. I don't think anyone projects or expects that. He'll get more at Kentucky than he would as a late 1st round pick. If he's a 2nd round pick?! Forget about it.

I'm not any less confident because he said what he had to say.
EXACTLY. Fans read articles like this, where Oweh says exactly what he's supposed to say, and somehow discern he's definitely headed to the NBA. But yet those same fans have the ability to look at literally every single mock draft out there, see him on ONE of those mocks where he's the last pick, and then somehow draw the conclusion he's probably gone. It's so weird.
 
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When everyone knew Oweh would go through the draft process likely be invited to the combines when all of this was going to happen and he’s been penciled in as a returner. Why? Ask yourself why today anyone would think anything different? He’s going through the process. He is clearly not a first rounder, likely not to be drafted. He’s gonna make 4 million next year compared to far less in the g league or even nba. No one is playing games, this isn’t Oweh trying to drive up his NIL deal. He can’t transfer and the bottomline is the guy is going to do everything he can to get to the nba but only if there are big guarantees. Oweh is exactly where we thought he would be in the process. Imo the feedback he is getting is worse than I thought it would be. I thought by now he would be a sure fire mid to late second round. Remember popes statement about how Oweh is gonna make a poy push in the sec and aspire to be a first rd AA as soon as he returns. Pope knows he’s coming back, pope is probably in touch with Oweh maybe daily. This has had return written all over it unless there’s a big surprise. And idk how the nil deal works the contract etc, but an Oweh return and a title and Oweh will be making some big time residuals. Like someone said in the thread NIL gives uk a ln opportunity to compete with the pros and keep guys longer. Oweh returns makes AA in the hunt for wooden award next year he will have momentum and hype to get him where he wants next draft. And worst case he makes 3-4 million doing it. Oweh still has a lot to work on and could definitely work his way to first round next year.
 
After the lottery tonight the updated mock drafts have Oweh still at number 72 (way out of the last pick of #59). This week he will have to outshine everyone to try to move up at all. Not sure what to think but I will stay with my original he is back 100%.

Lowe was not even invited to the combine after the Gleague combine. I would say he as well is coming to UK. He had a great G League combine but it did not move the needle. Only 5 got invited to the Draft Combine after the G League combine.

I think we still see 1 more guy (not from the withdrawal of the draft but an additional guy along with Oweh and Lowe). Some project or guy for the following year.

Now the only issue I see is Jelavic getting to UK for the June enrollment. If his team loses the 2nd game of their current series in the playoffs he should make it here no issues. If they end up winning game 2 and 3 of the series then they move on to the next round.
 
I am not much of a NBA fan: I will watch for a few minutes then find something else to watch. For those who do watch regularly, explain all these mock drafts: many are close to each other in where they think how the draft will go. In the mock drafts I have seen on ESPN, I have not seen Oweh's name anywhere.
I did see it once being the last guy picked at 59 but that has changed.

How long would a player stay in the draft with numbers like they show for him?
 
I am not much of a NBA fan: I will watch for a few minutes then find something else to watch. For those who do watch regularly, explain all these mock drafts: many are close to each other in where they think how the draft will go. In the mock drafts I have seen on ESPN, I have not seen Oweh's name anywhere.
I did see it once being the last guy picked at 59 but that has changed.

How long would a player stay in the draft with numbers like they show for him?
The one I saw today was 79th.
 
Cason Wallace 24 million for 4 years. Oweh is much better player.
I can't agree with this. Cason is a legit NBA talent, playing big minutes in NBA playoff games,
Oweh played 3 years in college and might be a 2nd round pick and a cup of coffee guy. He’s a great college player, but he doesn't have a game suited for the league.
 
I know Cason only played 1 season at UK and he was a freshman and he played for a shit coach, but for what UK needs next year, I would rather have OO.
If I was building an NBA roster, Cason would get the nod way before Oweh, but that just illustrates how different the NBA is from the college game. Everyone thinks you need NBA talent to win in college, no, you need great college players that are good enough that one season to earn an NBA spot.
 
Wallace is an elite defender who can also shoot.
Oweh is a decent defender and a decent shooter but he does nothing on an elite level as far as the NBA is concerned.
He can take it to the hole and jam it on just about anyone it seems, though perhaps not on the highest of NBA priorities.
 
Why would you think that?


That's factually inaccurate. There are 75 invites/attendees. Some turn it down. So it's, give or take, the top 80. He's easily inside that.


He shot 35% basically playing H-O-R-S-E from 3. His shots were spot ups and he had plenty of time to get them off. Mechanics are a HUGE thing, given Oweh's faults with his mechanics. It's a slow release that covers his eyes when he pulls the ball up and it's also a motion that makes it really complicated to get to his shot off of the bounce. He's basically committed to a set shot given where the ball is and the path it takes to get to his release. Not to mention he's shooting it from 2-3' further back in the NBA.
This is what I saw and have been saying all year - Oweh's mechanics are a much bigger problem than his percentage. He will not have time to get that shot off in the NBA.
 
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This is what I saw and have been saying all year - Oweh's mechanics are a much bigger problem than his percentage. He will not have time to get that shot off in the NBA.
Correct. And most of them are from about 2' further back. It's why Brea is on most boards now. His mechanics are perfect. His release is high and quick. All of the things he lacks like strength and lateral quickness can probably be fixed with the correct work ethic. Plus his size makes it worth taking a chance.

Here's the thing with Oweh. He's probably never going to be an NBA player. The shot is a huge issue. His handles aren't great. He's undersized for an NBA 2. He'll most likely make a nice living in Europe playing somewhere, if that's what he wants to do. He could have an all-SEC type season (I don't buy the NPOY talk) and still be mid 2nd round. He just doesn't grade out well for the NBA.
 
Will be so glad when he announces he's coming back so this thread can have a natural death. But then when some recruit doesn't include us in his list the same folks will be starting similar threads.
 
This is what I saw and have been saying all year - Oweh's mechanics are a much bigger problem than his percentage. He will not have time to get that shot off in the NBA.
Admittedly I don't watch a lot of NBA action, but when I do, I see guys wide open from the outside constantly, even in high intensity playoff games.
Most shooters, not named Steph Curry, would have a hard time getting a shot off, with an NBA defender in front of them, but there are a lot of open shots to take during the course of every offensive set from what I see.
 
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Disagree.

If not for NIL, Oweh would most likely be gone for sure.

A lucrative NIL deal might be the only thing that keeps him in school.

I don’t know about you, but I am out exactly 0 dollars due to NIL, so I have no problem with it.

I’m all for talent staying in college. And I have no problem with players getting paid. They should have been getting paid all along.
No they shouldn't have, that is so stupid as is this whole post if yours
 
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I see Oweh as surefire second round pick

I think some 40-60 range team will consider select Oweh as a wing reserve

It depends on how Oweh thinks, if he thinks he can return back to school to improve his stock or just grab the nba opportunity now
 
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I see Oweh as surefire second round pick

I think some 40-60 range team will consider select Oweh as a wing reserve

It depends on how Oweh thinks, if he thinks he can return back to school to improve his stock or just grab the nba opportunity now
I think he has a spot in the second round and is gone. If he comes back awesome.
 
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