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Is it time to be concerned about Liam Coen returning next year?

The average NFL OC makes around $1M. Kentucky could probably get close to that but in the end Coen may have to decide if he wants to go back to the League or stick here a couple of more years and start entertaining head college jobs. He's in a nice spot because staying at UK another year doesn't likely hurt his chances of moving up the coaching ladder in fact it probably helps him, so no hurry.
 
I was laughed at when I said Coen should be considered as our next coach if Stoops left for the then open LSU job. Rams assistant coaches are the most sought after coaches in football right now. Hopefully we get him at least until the end of next season. Super great hire by Stoops. Coen is on a fast track as a college head coach or NFL OC.
And I still don't think he's remotely ready, right now, to take over a program like Kentucky. Being considered for an OC job in the NFL is different than being considered for the HC at a top 25 SEC program. The only 2 guys who I thought should even be considered internally at the time were Sumrall and White. Here is what I wrote back in November in a thread and I still feel the same way, "Who knows if Coen will be a good HC some day, but I just cannot imagine turning over the reigns to him right now. I would go with Brad White or Jon Sumrall before I even thought about Coen."
 
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The average NFL OC makes around $1M. Kentucky could probably get close to that but in the end Coen may have to decide if he wants to go back to the League or stick here a couple of more years and start entertaining head college jobs. He's in a nice spot because staying at UK another year doesn't likely hurt his chances of moving up the coaching ladder in fact it probably helps him, so no hurry.

The other thing to consider is, other than hcs, he's literally one of the very few with a direct McVey lineage. It's a very finite resource. Nearly every other is now a HC.

Right now it's the NFL golden ticket. And why not? It's proven the most successful offense in the NFL by far
 
The other side of it is, if I'm Liam I'm in no hurry as a bunch of great opportunities will be there next year or the year after etc. All the good positions will not just be the ones right now. No need to feel like you have to jump now or miss out.
 
The average NFL OC makes around $1M. Kentucky could probably get close to that but in the end Coen may have to decide if he wants to go back to the League or stick here a couple of more years and start entertaining head college jobs. He's in a nice spot because staying at UK another year doesn't likely hurt his chances of moving up the coaching ladder in fact it probably helps him, so no hurry.
Coen already makes $1.1M at UK...
 
Noone is saying it's a done deal. What people are saying is 1) there are two NFL oc openings with head coaches where'd he'd be a very very easy fit and 2) if it isn't this one or this year, it's unfortunately soon.

That's why months ago I thought Woodward was really important to hold on to. Imo that's a long shot because he'll probably go with coen, but it's also a good sign he's on the road recruiting. Keeping him would take the sting out.
He never coached a snap at UK when there was a thread wondering if he was going to be lost to an NFL team because a McVey disciple was getting an HC job. We don’t know what Liam’s ultimate job would be. So, whether being an OC in the NFL is a good path to his dream or not is just a matter of speculation. Time will tell. I hope he stays, as that would be a good path to some great jobs, but it will be what it will be. I have never heard Coen discuss his dream job.
 
Noone wants him to leave. We all want him to stay. Reality was at the time this was likely 2 years. He was just that hot of a commodity. Honestly we're fortunate we got him at all.

Guys like him are getting hc jobs all around the league because it's a proven system that works and works well. He's on the short list of who's next. Only question is what the job will be. Given his trajectory, I think it'll be a major leap but we'll see.
 
The average NFL OC makes around $1M. Kentucky could probably get close to that but in the end Coen may have to decide if he wants to go back to the League or stick here a couple of more years and start entertaining head college jobs. He's in a nice spot because staying at UK another year doesn't likely hurt his chances of moving up the coaching ladder in fact it probably helps him, so no hurry.
I say pay him that $$$. Phuck it….he’s worth it, and going cheap isn’t going to maintain our rise in the SEC. Sell improving his mastery of the OC position until he does move on in another couple of years…. But we have to buy consistency at our coordinator positions
 
Idk if he gets offered the job or not but if some of you actually think he would to turn down the rams OC job then your being naive lol. That’s not happening. Hopefully he doesn’t get offered tho.
 
Idk if he gets offered the job or not but if some of you actually think he would to turn down the rams OC job then your being naive lol. That’s not happening. Hopefully he doesn’t get offered tho.
That may be true - but we need to eliminate it being a matter of $$$$
 
It's not a matter of $$$, he's already getting 1.1M at UK. It's a matter of if he wants to be an OC in the NFL and every football coach wants to coach at the top level.
It won't be about the money in the end. I think being the Rams OC is the fastest track to either a NFL head job or a good P5 college coach. In the end his year of success at Kentucky will help him in the college ranks. Just like some alluded to above, they wouldn't even want him at the Kentucky job right now. Go to the Rams and be the OC and I'm sure multiple P5 jobs become available. I hope he doesn't leave, but I also think it will be a hard opportunity to turn down if it presents itself.

Coen is a special coach. Didn't Stoops offer him the job as soon as he interviewed? Even some commentators that talked to him during game weeks were blown away when they spoke with him. Kudos for Stoops making this hire..
 
$1.1 million in Lexington would mean the Rams would have to pay almost $2 million, with the diff in cost of living

However, if his wife is from there/still.has family there, game over
 
$1.1 million in Lexington would mean the Rams would have to pay almost $2 million, with the diff in cost of living

However, if his wife is from there/still.has family there, game over
Housing is at least 2x what it would be in Lexington, but you get it back on the back in when you eventually sell. gas, food and other things are somewhat higher. But if you renting you're going to get screwed for sure. I would say overall LA is about 1.3X Lex.
 
I really think coen is going to stick around and prove his worth. Think he will try to learn the nuances of being a quality head coach and slide into a college head job. The pay is great and the job is not as grueling as the NFL; or so I’ve been told.
 
I was laughed at when I said Coen should be considered as our next coach if Stoops left for the then open LSU job. Rams assistant coaches are the most sought after coaches in football right now. Hopefully we get him at least until the end of next season. Super great hire by Stoops. Coen is on a fast track as a college head coach or NFL OC.
Coach Coen has done a fine job. But is he a head college coach - not yet! He has only coached one year - but it was in the SEC. I personally think he will be here 3 years - but after the third season he will have the best opportunities. I wouldn't be surprised, based on what UK does the next two seasons - if he gets a major opportunity in Los Angeles - if he wants it. Riley will set USC on fire - so - who do you think will want to beat Riley and USC - maybe another major college located in Los Angeles - that school has been a big player before as well!

I hope we get so see if Coach Coen can recruit here - because who knows what the future will be for Kentucky as well. NIL is the wild card in college now - will UK be able to bring in a great QB talent? Many great college QB's were not the super QB's that they later became when they were in high school - this is where we find out who are the best OC's - recruiting! Pro ball is much easier than college- after all you know exactly what you are getting when go to the pros - but you better have the talent or the draft picks to make it in the pros - ask Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino or even a guy named Saban!

Go Big Blue
 
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No but it doesn’t matter because all the OCs and people from his coaching tree get head jobs in the NFL
This isn’t entirely true, McVay primarily calls plays but the OC does have input on the plays called. McVay will talk to his OC/staff over the headphones in between plays to get their input on play calls and then he makes the final decision. His OC’s are heavily involved which is why they are so sought after. If they weren’t so involved with play calling teams wouldn’t be coming after them at this rate.
 
Housing is at least 2x what it would be in Lexington, but you get it back on the back in when you eventually sell. gas, food and other things are somewhat higher. But if you renting you're going to get screwed for sure. I would say overall LA is about 1.3X Lex.
I've lived in the SF Bay area for many years and my son lived in LA for several. I'd say the 1.3 is much much closed to actual than 2.0. Especially now that many things can be ordered on-line, same price nationwide.
 
The problem is they aren't taking into account that although you purchase a comparable home for 2 to 3 times more, you get it back plus appreciation on the back end when you sell.
Sure, but that does not impact the actual cost. To get back, you need to be able to put in. You may see your investment increase through appreciation of the asset, but you still have to pay for the asset.

In today’s market, I do not know if percentage appreciation is better in Lex or San Fran. Could actually be Lex.
 
Sure, but that does not impact the actual cost. To get back, you need to be able to put in. You may see your investment increase through appreciation of the asset, but you still have to pay for the asset.

In today’s market, I do not know if percentage appreciation is better in Lex or San Fran. Could actually be Lex.
If someone is motivated to research this, use Santa Clara not SF. Housing in SF is significantly higher that Santa Clara where the 49er play and practice.
 
It won't come down to money. The guy made something like $700,000 this year. That's 10+ years of work for most people. He is guaranteed $1.1 million next year and I'm sure he has a buyout if they get rid of him. He will sign a contract with the Rams for probably the same amount for over $1 million over three years or so.

When the money gets at that level for an assistant I'm thinking future aspirations play a bit more than a couple of hundred thousand here or there. I hope he stays, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him jump back on the McVay train while it's hot..
 
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