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Indiana got in the football playoffs because of it's Big10 privilege

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Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina Texas A&M would have steamrolled Indiana. IU went through that overrated conference of theirs with only 1 loss & just like in college basketball. The selection committees can't wait to put as many Big10 teams in the tournament as possible. Year in & year out the basketball selection committee puts more Big10 teams in over any other conference & every year those teams fall flat on their faces. And now it's going to be the same way with football. The Big10 is the most overrated thing in sports.
 
The problem with these super conferences is a lack of a relatively balanced schedule. IU got lucky with their schedule draw but they avoided bad losses on it, so they ended up getting in. Ole Miss/Bama couldn't say that, which was bad for the SEC but its how things played out.
 
Odd that no one mentioned that ND was ranked above IU and ND had the home game, despite IU as a one seed. To me, that's talking out of both sides of your mouth. The one seed should have home field advantage. Same with SMU and Clemson, why is SMU playing in North Carolina.
 
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Odd that no one mentioned that ND was ranked above IU and ND had the home game, despite IU as a one seed. To me, that's talking out of both sides of your mouth. The one seed should have home field advantage. Same with SMU and Clemson, why is SMU playing in North Carolina.
You lost me. Are you talking about SMU and Clemson ing the ACC title game? SMU is at Penn State. How was IU a 1 seed? They were the #10 seed.
 
Odd that no one mentioned that ND was ranked above IU and ND had the home game, despite IU as a one seed. To me, that's talking out of both sides of your mouth. The one seed should have home field advantage. Same with SMU and Clemson, why is SMU playing in North Carolina.
Not sure what you’re trying say.

IU was the 10 seed and played at 7 seed ND. What do you mean IU was the 1 seed?

SMU is the 11 seed playing at 6 seed PSU. SMU is not playing in North Carolina.
 
Imo it was anti sec bias more than pro big 10. Same reason smu got in. Should've been bama and ole miss.

The joke gets worse when the committee gave psu and nd basically the easiest two games of anyone, because both those teams are also massively overrated.

Lets be honest - the playoff expansion was solely to add more non sec teams to the mix in an attempt to knee cap our league using some bs equity argument. Thats just the truth.

IU’s SOS before the OSU game was 106. Nobody with a pulse. Michigan had a slight pulse and only lost at Bloomington by 5.

This.

Had SMU beaten Clemson, an undeserving Bama would have made the playoff.

12 team playoffs sux if you start acting like you care whether a team deserves a chance at the NC.

Define deserving. Cant be just record because not all schedules or conferences are created equal, especially not now.

Lets say you have asu, iu, and/or smu trade schedules with bama or ole miss. Do any of those former 3 teams have nearly the record of either of the latter? Not even close.
 
Did you watch the Georgia vs Georgia Tech game? GT was every bit as good as Georgia

You are forgetting a few mportant details here. GT a big instate rivalry game that UGA has owned this century, GT prepped from day 1 for this game, had already qualified for some no one cares bowl game, their coach, an alumni, openly admits he hates UGA, UGA was getting prepared for SEC championship game and possible playoff run, owns the series and game wasn't important to team goals.. Tech played their A game, UGA played their C game. Ask your conference champion what it's like to get the A game.
 
You are forgetting a few mportant details here. GT a big instate rivalry game that UGA has owned this century, GT prepped from day 1 for this game, had already qualified for some no one cares bowl game, their coach, an alumni, openly admits he hates UGA, UGA was getting prepared for SEC championship game and possible playoff run, owns the series and game wasn't important to team goals.. Tech played their A game, UGA played their C game. Ask your conference champion what it's like to get the A game.
I’m liable to get banned for saying this here, but Kentucky should’ve beaten you guys.
 
You are forgetting a few mportant details here. GT a big instate rivalry game that UGA has owned this century, GT prepped from day 1 for this game, had already qualified for some no one cares bowl game, their coach, an alumni, openly admits he hates UGA, UGA was getting prepared for SEC championship game and possible playoff run, owns the series and game wasn't important to team goals.. Tech played their A game, UGA played their C game. Ask your conference champion what it's like to get the A game.

That goes to the point i made several times the past few days. Playing an sec schedule is just different. It isnt just one game. Its the grind and attrition of playing the biggest, fastest, and strongest week in and out.

Whereas other conferences (besides arguably the big 10) get to coast most weeks and load up on a big game 2 or 3 times a year.
 
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The problem with these super conferences is a lack of a relatively balanced schedule. IU got lucky with their schedule draw but they avoided bad losses on it, so they ended up getting in. Ole Miss/Bama couldn't say that, which was bad for the SEC but its how things played out.
That’s definitely a good point. The conferences are entirely too big when you can’t even get a consistent strength of conference schedule between members of the same conference.

I don’t entirely agree that Alabama and Ole Miss got punished for tough schedules though. I think it might have been a different conversation if all their losses had been to elite teams instead of Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Florida. The fact is that there usually aren’t 12 championship quality teams in a given year for football, and this was no exception.
 
I’m liable to get banned for saying this here, but Kentucky should’ve beaten you guys.

I never said they shouldn't have, we were damn lucky to get out of here with a win. But lucky still counts. I don't care for our offensive coaching staff, Kirby hired his best friend for OC, who has aa 1995 playback and too predictable. I can tell you our 1st 3 plays against ND right now. An OL coach who has been passed around the southeast for 30 years, and a WR coach who has turned our WR room into one of the worst in the country, lead the nation in drops. I hope all three are gone as soon as season ends.
 
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That’s definitely a good point. The conferences are entirely too big when you can’t even get a consistent strength of conference schedule between members of the same conference.

I don’t entirely agree that Alabama and Ole Miss got punished for tough schedules though. I think it might have been a different conversation if all their losses had been to elite teams instead of Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Kentucky, and Florida. The fact is that there usually aren’t 12 championship quality teams in a given year for football, and this was no exception.

Oh, I agree with you on the part that I bolded for sure. Like, Alabama with 3 losses was ranked ahead of a 2 loss Miami by the committee. So their SOS was taken into consideration. But I think that terrible blowout loss to Oklahoma was what killed their season more than anything else. If they had lost to better teams then things could've been different for them.
 
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Imo it was anti sec bias more than pro big 10. Same reason smu got in. Should've been bama and ole miss.

The joke gets worse when the committee gave psu and nd basically the easiest two games of anyone, because both those teams are also massively overrated.

Lets be honest - the playoff expansion was solely to add more non sec teams to the mix in an attempt to knee cap our league using some bs equity argument. Thats just the truth.



This.



Define deserving. Cant be just record because not all schedules or conferences are created equal, especially not now.

Lets say you have asu, iu, and/or smu trade schedules with bama or ole miss. Do any of those former 3 teams have nearly the record of either of the latter? Not even close.

Deserving: a team that played the season in a manner that demonstrated they deserved a chance at the NC. I never said IU, ASU, or SMU was deserving. Typically, every year, there are 2-5 teams that are deserving. This year, I think I would have had a four team playoff of Oregon, Texas, OSU and Georgia.
 
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Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina Texas A&M would have steamrolled Indiana. IU went through that overrated conference of theirs with only 1 loss & just like in college basketball. The selection committees can't wait to put as many Big10 teams in the tournament as possible. Year in & year out the basketball selection committee puts more Big10 teams in over any other conference & every year those teams fall flat on their faces. And now it's going to be the same way with football. The Big10 is the most overrated thing in sports.
Alabama lost to Oklahoma, got blown out. Alabama lost to a team that lost to Georgia State.

Ole Miss lost to us.

Bama got in last year strictly cause of the SEC.
 
The committee putting them in is bad for football. Basically what they're advocating is that teams like Texas, UGA, Oregon, OSU,etc shouldn't play each other in out of conference games bc theyre risking loss, instead they should petition to get the easiest conference slate they can.

Bball all they talk about are quad 1 wins, etc. Here they're just talking record.
 
Deserving: a team that played the season in a manner that demonstrated they deserved a chance at the NC. I never said IU, ASU, or SMU was deserving. Typically, every year, there are 2-5 teams that are deserving. This year, I think I would have had a four team playoff of Oregon, Texas, OSU and Georgia.

Agree. Unfortunately they were intent on expanding. Imo was with the sole intent to dilute the SEC dominance. That carried over in the committee screwing the sec out of two spots.
 
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Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina Texas A&M would have steamrolled Indiana. IU went through that overrated conference of theirs with only 1 loss & just like in college basketball. The selection committees can't wait to put as many Big10 teams in the tournament as possible. Year in & year out the basketball selection committee puts more Big10 teams in over any other conference & every year those teams fall flat on their faces. And now it's going to be the same way with football. The Big10 is the most overrated thing in sports.

Should've been an 8 team playoff with the 8 best teams playing and the 4 lowest seeds playing each other in the 1st round. The SEC agreeing to the format they now have is their own fault and cost one or two good teams a shot at the title.

There is no way that anyone believes Alabama couldn't beat anyone in this playoff.

As it is, the SEC teams that made it are st the biggest disadvantage because of the brutal schedule they played this year. OSU and PSU had somewhat tough schedules. The rest of the playoff teams haven't had to face anything like what SEC teams faced all season much less for a stretch of 4-5 games.
 
Alabama lost to Oklahoma, got blown out. Alabama lost to a team that lost to Georgia State.

Ole Miss lost to us.

Bama got in last year strictly cause of the SEC.

Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois. At HOME. As a near 30 POINT FAVORITE. NIU barely got 6 wins this season. No excuse for them to be in the playoff.
 
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Alabama lost to Oklahoma, got blown out. Alabama lost to a team that lost to Georgia State.

Ole Miss lost to us.

Bama got in last year strictly cause of the SEC.

You said smu and Clemson would win today. Hows that working out?

And Alabama got in last year because fsu sucked without its starting qb.
 
You said smu and Clemson would win today. Hows that working out?

And Alabama got in last year because fsu sucked without its starting qb.
I made random picks like a week ago when trying to pick a bracket. Didn’t really think SMU would win. More just how bad I think of Penn State.

Clemson is competitive

And no FSU didn’t suck without their QB. They gave up one TD in 2.5 games after his injury. The defense was amazing and loaded with NFL stars (look at the Rams rookies right now bud). That squad didn’t lose a game. Had to use a third string QB in the ACC title game cause the backup got concussed in the Florida game.

In one breath; you act like FSU wasn’t the same because their QB was out yet you will cite the Georgia game where 30 players opted out like all of the production as if it was the same team.

You’re a Bama homer 24:7. They got in just cause they were the SEC Texas belonged with thr thrrr undefeated teams. Bama could lose five games and you’d be all about them in a playoff.
 
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I made random picks like a week ago when trying to pick a bracket. Didn’t really think SMU would win. More just how bad I think of Penn State.

Clemson is competitive

And no FSU didn’t suck without their QB. They gave up one TD in 2.5 games after his injury. The defense was amazing and loaded with NFL stars (look at the Rams rookies right now bud). That squad didn’t lose a game. Had to use a third string QB in the ACC title game cause the backup got concussed in the Florida game.

In one breath; you act like FSU wasn’t the same because their QB was out yet you will cite the Georgia game where 30 players opted out like all of the production.

You’re a Bama homer 24:7

Fsu wouldnt have beat michigan and michigan would have been way happier to get them. Just like Penn state was way happier to get smu over an Alabama or SC or Ole Miss. Even throw in Miami as a tougher opponent.

Fsu sure sucked this year. 2 and 10 in a weak conference.

Clemson definitely has better players so I'm not surprised they are keeping it marginally closer against Texas. IU and smu were more mid major level teams.
 
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Agree. Unfortunately they were intent on expanding. Imo was with the sole intent to dilute the SEC dominance. That carried over in the committee screwing the sec out of two spots.

That just isn't the case, SEC office made the SEC schedule not the committee. Big made their the big schedule. SEC took care of Texas, and let the rest of the conference fend for themselves. Bama is out because they were blown out by OU, OM is out because they lost to UF. Carolina is out because of a blown call against LSU and the only one of the 3 with a real gripe about being left out.
 
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