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imo MARCUS LEE has a chance to be a defensive poy candidate

Lee has length. He will be 6th man in the SEC. That alone is more recognition for the team than some UK teams in the past.
 
Marcus isn't gonna step outside and hit jumpers...not his game but guess what Willie and Dakari couldnt do it either. MRcus will get his points on alleyoops putbacks and hustle plays. In no way am i saying Marcus is offensive juggernaut but it is his intangibles that he brings to the floor that makes him valuable...lets just see how it plays out....Thanks


Why don't you just say that then instead of the silly posts:

Cal screwed Lee over by playing WCS instead

or the

Lee is way better than Skal, Skal will be sitting the bench not Lee

????????????
 
I shoudn't have to explain it 18 different ways...watch the games!!!!! Me sayind WCS and Dakari could't go outside and hit shots isn't breaking news, yet they got minutes on the floor...Lee did not. Had Lee been allowed those minutes his numbers would be better, that is what i am saying. You can't critique Marcus for the same thing the guys ahead of him couldn't do. That is my point, has been from day one...Lee needs the rope that others got
....all im saying...not rocket science
 
I shoudn't have to explain it 18 different ways...watch the games!!!!! Me sayind WCS and Dakari could't go outside and hit shots isn't breaking news, yet they got minutes on the floor...Lee did not. Had Lee been allowed those minutes his numbers would be better, that is what i am saying. You can't critique Marcus for the same thing the guys ahead of him couldn't do. That is my point, has been from day one...Lee needs the rope that others got
....all im saying...not rocket science

They got the minutes because of many things they do better than lee.

I'm confused here.
 
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Great post.

That's a good point about Poythress. With Poythress possibly still out until December (an ACL recovery can take up to a full year), Lee is likely going to get his shot early on to shine. We may be looking at a rotation of Lee, Labissiere, and Humphries at the 4 and 5 spot for the first month or so of the season. Lee better show the improvements you were talking about or it might cost us some games.
Thanks for your compliment. Poythress had the knee operation in December. He has been running full speed on the track in a straight line for 2 months, but no basketball yet. Playing basketball requires cutting, jumping, contact. So no basketball until the doctor clears him. Judging from what Calipari has said, Poythress is on track to be 100% sometime in November. If no setbacks. I draw 3 assumptions. Poythress will be in good aerobic shape by November, but his basketball skills will be rusty. While Calipari waits for Poythress to get back his timing and lateral quickness, Lee will receive more opportunities in October and November. But once Poythress is 100%, he is a stronger, more skilled 4 than Lee, with more starting experience. The players themselves will develop at their own pace, and compete for roles. We want all of our players to be successful.
 
Dakari got minutes cuz he was bid body and took up space not because he did anything better than Lee. Marcus runs the floor way better can get off the floor quicker plays with much much more enthusiasm, is a better rebounder and passer. Don't even try to come on here and say Dakari is better than Lee. ThT dog wont hunt.
 
Once again i don't need your blessing that i have basketball intelligience and can talk about it all day on here...i know i have it. I think Marcus Lee can play and play a lot and perform at a high high level. Cal chose to play WCS and Dakari in front of him...that's his choice...doesn't make it gospel. HAWKINS started 6-8 games and we won them and most of you guys think Hawk has no business on the team...what's my point you ask??? The team was so great we won 38 straight with platoon system and myriad od lineups. Lee could have been playing some valuable minutes when the other guys were not gettin it done and it would't have made any difference in our record.
 
Dakari got minutes cuz he was bid body and took up space not because he did anything better than Lee. Marcus runs the floor way better can get off the floor quicker plays with much much more enthusiasm, is a better rebounder and passer. Don't even try to come on here and say Dakari is better than Lee. ThT dog wont hunt.

So essentially what you're saying is that Calipari doesn't know what he's doing since he's the one who determines who plays what minutes.
 
Yea thats what i am saying...how do you come up with that??? Cal is set in his ways..he puts in a sub and other team goes on 6 point run, Cal takes that player out even if he wasn't involved...thats what he does. Probably more superstition than anything. Coaches do that. They don't wanna try anything different. I'm saying Lee hasn't gotten minutes, we can debate all day long as to why...hopefully going forward Marcus gets his time and i mean time..not in 2 minutes and he gets fouled and misses both shots and boom he is out. Let him play 20-30 a game you will say "we had this guy all along and he has just been sittin".. you know kinda like you did against michigan.
 
Lee has had a problem losing people on defense. Yes he can get an occasional block, but the points he has given up by not keeping up with what is going on offset the positives of a block once in a while. If he continues to learn the game of basketball then he will get more playing time. Through last season the negatives outweighed the positives. That is why he has gotten limited playing time.
 
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The point is you need court time to improve. .

But you first need to play well in practice to earn court time, which is what you don't seem to understand. Good lord, you act like Lee's lack of PT is because of some evil conspiracy by Cal to keep the guy down, when it's actually because Lee simply did not play as well as the guys ahead of him in the endless hours of daily practice Cal watched for two straight years.

And, I'm sorry, but not enough game time is not a valid excuse for for friggin 32 percent free throw shooting. You don't need game minutes to become a better free throw shooter, instead you can practice free throw shooting any damn time you want, and anywhere you want that has any sort of goal nearby. Yet, oddly enough, Lee looked like he'd barely ever shot a free throw before on most of his trips to the line this year, that's not excused or explained away merely by saying he hasn't had a lot of game minutes.
 
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Probably as much chance as Skal being overall number 1 next year. Ask Okafer about those projections...we got 40 games between now and then.
 
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Look at Dakaris and Willies free throe percentage last year as to previous year..it's because they got more of them because they weren't looking over at Cal to be yanked if they messed up. That is the rope i speak of...they got the rope and Marcus hasn't.
 
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http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/04/marcus-lee-wisonsin-frank-kaminsky
Why you being such a prick! For one. Lee led the nation in blocks and rebounds in high school. He played better defense against Kaminsky the year before in the final four than WCS. If Lee had the opportunities WCS did he might be looked at different. You pounce on him saying you haven't seen anything in two years.... Don't you remember ?lee got the nod over WCS starting as a freshman but then got sick! Then WCS got hurt and all the talk was Lee in the tourney.

I, grant you this is a message board full of opinions. But the way you have acted lately is not cool. You act like your evaluations of recruits and players are the final word. I hate to break it to ya, but it's not. I'm not saying Lee is going to be a defensive player of the year but he has all the tools. He and dakari of all people shut down Kaminsky and Wisconsin inside the year before, WCS was a no show. WCS was a lottery pick after his worst game of the season. Not everyone judges the way you do.

Lee's HS numbers are irrelevant. He dominated off sheer athleticism/length. In the college game it takes more than that, like some resemblance of IQ, awareness and skill.

Why is WCS continually brought up in this thread? We all get it already - he was a no-show vs. Wisconsin. Stop bringing up 1 game to prove a certain point - its all about the body of work. Lee 2 yrs of work shows nothing but blown assignments, missed FTs and just running around like a chicken with his head cut off.

Nobody is denying his tools. Thats the main reason I'm not writing him off into developing into some kind of defender next yr, but DPOY candidate is nothing but a dream for him.
 
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It's my opinion that Lee will be better than Skal yes. You guys think Skal will be better, you have no data to make such claim other than what draft so called experts think. Did you watch draft this year??? These goofballs weren"t close to what actually happened. I don't go by what expertd say i watch the games...i suggest you do the same

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I could see SEC DPOY candidate, but you are seriously underestimating that to be a NDPOY, you need to be a big name like WCS OR have monstrous stats. There will be 25 guys with better defensive numbers than Lee, so unless he's the superstar on this UK team (which there's a good chance he doesn't start or play over 15-20 MPG), there's just no chance at NDPOY.
 
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Probably as much chance as Skal being overall number 1 next year. Ask Okafer about those projections...we got 40 games between now and then.


that's as close to a troll post as you can get...

lets just all agree to agree you are kinda dumb
 
Lee's stats at the FT line (35%) could be his downfall. He might be sitting the pine a lot once Humphries gets acclimated to the game. Humphries is supposedly a very good FT shooter. Someone said around 80%.

Defense and rebounding can cover a multitude of (offensive) sins, but if you can't make free throws, you are a major liability, especially at the end of the game.

Even if Lee is a better defender, if Humphries is a better shooter (FG and FT) and rebounds just as well, then Lee might not even see his minutes double.

I really want to see Lee succeed and get lots of minutes, but if he doesn't improve and Humphries takes his minutes, so be it.

I want the guy in there that is going to help us win ball games.
 
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He had more than one bad game..seriously??? Stsrting with Arkansas game his sophomore year he disappered for about 10 strait...if you are gonna discuss be fair about it.
 
Lee's stats at the FT line (35%) could be his downfall. He might be sitting the pine a lot once Humphries gets acclimated to the game. Humphries is supposedly a very good FT shooter. Someone said around 80%.

Defense and rebounding can cover a multitude of (offensive) sins, but if you can't make free throws, you are a major liability, especially at the end of the game.

Even if Lee is a better defender, if Humphries is a better shooter (FG and FT) and rebounds just as well, then Lee might not even see his minutes double.

I really want to see Lee succeed and get lots of minutes, but if he doesn't improve and Humphries takes his minutes, so be it.

I want the guy in there that is going to help us win ball games.




How much you want to bet that every time Lee gets a rebound or scores a basket, Ulismyman will jump on here and be like:

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He had more than one bad game..seriously??? Stsrting with Arkansas game his sophomore year he disappered for about 10 strait...if you are gonna discuss be fair about it.


If we are going to have a discussion you need to utilize spell check Briscoe.
 
that's as close to a troll post as you can get...

lets just all agree to agree you are kinda dumb

I don't think he's ever watched much basketball. I do know one thing, he's setting Lee up to look bad. If I were Lee and I ever met this guy, I'd hit him right in the mouth.
 
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I don't think he's ever watched much basketball. I do know one thing, he's setting Lee up to look bad. If I were Lee and I ever met this guy, I'd hit him right in the mouth.



Can you imagine if he was old enough to watch Richard Master Blaster Madison?

He would be climbing the walls with the greatest ever stuff and hating on Joe B.
 
Can you imagine if he was old enough to watch Richard Master Blaster Madison?

He would be climbing the walls with the greatest ever stuff and hating on Joe B.

Wow, you are taking me back a ways now. Madison was a good ball player in his own right. Folks just expected more than he could deliver. None of that was Joe's fault, as you know.

I think our hyperbolic poster here has just let his mouth out run his brain. Mr Ulis poster is about to learn this board has a very long collective memory.
 
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I could see SEC DPOY candidate, but you are seriously underestimating that to be a NDPOY, you need to be a big name like WCS OR have monstrous stats. There will be 25 guys with better defensive numbers than Lee, so unless he's the superstar on this UK team (which there's a good chance he doesn't start or play over 15-20 MPG), there's just no chance at NDPOY.
i'll concede that. but with uk's pub who knows.
 
Yea thats what i am saying...how do you come up with that??? Cal is set in his ways..he puts in a sub and other team goes on 6 point run, Cal takes that player out even if he wasn't involved...thats what he does. Probably more superstition than anything. Coaches do that. They don't wanna try anything different. I'm saying Lee hasn't gotten minutes, we can debate all day long as to why...hopefully going forward Marcus gets his time and i mean time..not in 2 minutes and he gets fouled and misses both shots and boom he is out. Let him play 20-30 a game you will say "we had this guy all along and he has just been sittin".. you know kinda like you did against michigan.

ULISMYMAN IS CORRECT
I am close with the team, and just spoke with Calipari and Lee about this thread, and they both agreed with Ulismyman. Apparently Lee has been the best player every year he has been at UK, but he is very unselfish and wanted WCS, Dakari, KAT, etc... to get their chance to make a living in the NBA without him showing them up. This year is the year that Cal and the Lee family decided to unleash the beast. Despite his slow walk, he can play fast paste. He is so good defensively that Cal sometimes sits him out during practice because no one on the team can score while he's on the floor... not even those on his own team! He blocks everything... really, everything, including when he ballboy throws the ball to a player during free throw practice. I also found out that the reason Newman, Brown, Diallo and Swanigan did not come to UK was because they felt like they would lose their confidence since no one can score on Lee during practice. Anyway, rest assured that Ulismyman is correct.
 
I knew it was UlisTroll who was causing chaos with his trolling before I even looked to see ignored content for who it was. The guy is not a UK fan, and knows nothing about basketball. Yeah, Cal should have played Lee over the #6 pick in the NBA draft this year. The same guy who everyone on here seems so sure would have resulted in #9 against UCONN in 2014. I digress. Put it on ignore guys/gals, your lives will be better for doing so.
 
I knew it was UlisTroll who was causing chaos with his trolling before I even looked to see ignored content for who it was. The guy is not a UK fan, and knows nothing about basketball. Yeah, Cal should have played Lee over the #6 pick in the NBA draft this year. The same guy who everyone on here seems so sure would have resulted in #9 against UCONN in 2014. I digress. Put it on ignore guys/gals, your lives will be better for doing so.

Lol

Lee > lottery picks.
 
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