You still falling for that. He's better than some we've had in the past but his feet have been losing traction for some time. At one time he was great and on an upward trajectory. Now still good but great is waning.
I'm starting to get frustrated, too.
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You still falling for that. He's better than some we've had in the past but his feet have been losing traction for some time. At one time he was great and on an upward trajectory. Now still good but great is waning.
So, you guys can come at me with insults and comments about how wrong I am, but as soon as I reply in defense, I'm "pitching a fit"?
No, the truth is, you guys want me to just roll over and stand in the company line. You think you're some hall monitor for Cal and anything that isn't pro Calipari is whining and crying. Obviously the real world hasn't kicked your ass enough yet. You appear to be a "yes man". If that's true, you and I will never agree, so unless you want to have this discussion in person, just stop responding to me, because you can't handle the opinions of others when they aren't the same as yours.
We've now gotten to the point that we are b!tching about next March in the previous April.
If the rinse repeat everything wasn't bad enough every year where ppl moan about games in Nov before they forget about it at the end of the year...we've now started giving up before it starts
If the rinse repeat everything wasn't bad enough every year where ppl moan about games in Nov before they forget about it at the end of the year...we've now started giving up before it starts
Name one team that win a natty with a whole new lineup? I will wait.
No. You are awful. You supported a Tubby to the very end. You are a coach lover pure and simple.
You don't have a case.
You know, I have yet to see you actually contribute to this board at all. Every one of your posts is an attack on someone that has an opinion you don't like.
At least I contribute and have my own opinions, you're just the hype man in Calipari's entourage.
Are you tired of winning what matters most? National Championships? Err. Never mind.
Your contribution is mostly negative comments about Cal and the program. I am sure that surprises you since you are such a positive person.
This thread has deteriorated, as I anticipated it would. I've posted for over 3 years how I feel about Cal in terms of whether he's the best coach to put the Cats in a legit position to win another title. But it's hard to avoid getting into some of the back and forth (I've been guilty here and there of the same). So I try to be as balanced as possible and provide context/perspective and just root for the team. Unfortunately it's hard to avoid extremes on message boards. And it's hard to avoid extremes when it comes to coaches. Idolatry is a scary thing, and it's always frightening when any coach becomes bigger than the program. Or when a coach is viewed as irreplaceable or infallible. No matter the coach and no matter the program and no matter the sport.
I'll have to take your word for it, I've never seen you do anything but chastise other posters.
Does Cal pay you for your service here?
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News alert!! No one gets to the promised land every year. That’s totally unrealistic, and it’s ridiculous for anyone to expect that, even at Kentucky.
So when we have the #1 class multiple years, and more raw talent than any other team, we should NOT expect a title? Ever?
You always know they are beat when they ask if you are on the payroll.
No Jeffy. I support my program. Not a fair weather fan. I don’t quit after a few bumps. Never got a participation trophy. I don’t cry when someone responds to my posts.
Still no contribution from you. This is just another garbage post.
Get the concept but like you said talent is raw. Cals system isn't perfect but neither is the concept that the most talented team wins the tourney.
Since expansion to 64 teams the preseason #1 has won the title a grand total of 6 times.
- 17 reached the Final Four (just under 50 percent)
- Six won the national championship (17.1 percent)
- Seven lost in the national championship (20 percent)
- 22 reached at least the Elite Eight (62.9 percent)
- 27 made it to the Sweet 16 (77.1 percent)
- One lost in the first round
I would never recommend going into any season expecting a National Title unless you are a heavy heavy favorite...1996/2015 for example...as you can see that line of thinking will almost certainly lead to disappointment.
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When you supported Tubby to the last day, you were NOT supporting the program, because the program was in a free fall. You need a better excuse than that. You support the coach, first and last. You always have.
or maybe he just supports the coach who is coaching the PROGRAM? just a thought
It’s okay to think our team, from time to time, probably won’t make the Final Four/win a title. Like did anyone really think the Noel team was going to go to the Final Four? So with that being the case a spade is a spade. Sometimes we’re just NOT a FF favorite. Next year (As it stands now) is one of those years. Sure I’ll never count Cal out but I mean...we just lost too much. Simply stating we don’t have what it takes isn’t really “hating” imo.
This is exactly how all "non sunshine pumpers" have always felt. Welcome aboard, playboy!
He supports himself being smarter than just about anybody you line him up against, LOL.
Well, I guess I need to change my expectations for UK basketball with top ranked classes every year. What do you think a realistic expectation would be? Winning the SEC? Less than ten losses? Sweet 16? Elite 8? You guys all seem content and happy where the program is, I just want to know what makes you all so contented. And don’t say “being in contention every year”. If you can’t make a FF, you are not in contention.
Do I expect a FF every year? Of course not. One every 4 years should be realistic. And not losing at home to Evansville. That is BCG era
I know that, but to him, he can care less where the program is. Ten loss Tubby was his daddy to the last day, and yet he posted the same then as now. Do not dare to criticize the coach. Well sometimes the coach needs critique. Otherwise you are nothing but a yes man, as sheeple, a follower, accepting of the status quo. I am not like that.
Cal has only lost to a mid major twice in 12 years, pretty pointless to bring that up when we recovered from it and went 26-6...also #1 classes don’t mean anything unless you get experience this isn’t football where they stay 3 years, if the NBA made the rule 3 years cal would have 5-6 titles
Spot on, you just made my arguement for me. EXPERIENCE, which we seldom have. This is the spider web Cal has gotten himself caught in.
You also made the point that dwelling on the losses instead of the overall good times we've had is dumb, as the good times far outweigh the bad times.
You should expect them to play their best. Tell me what coach has done better at UK than Cal. Please. I can name several that have done worse.
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There's ABSOLUTELY a portion of our fanbase that is old, never goes to games, doesn't go to party's, etc and the ONLY thing that would make them happy is a Title. They don't care about the school, the coach or the players. They just want that title they think they deserve and if they don't get it they will crap all over everything. It's just fact.
You are not a sometime basher. You are a consistent basher. Own it and you might be happier.
And even if they got that title they would still complain. We should have won by more points, etc.
Yep. So glad my 80 year old parents don’t act like that. I’d tell them to suck it up.
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You certainly have plenty of experience being a basher. Have you ever been to a UK game at Rupp? Do you have season tickets? Probably not. Just a complainer.
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