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If Reed doesn’t start it will be criminal.

Coaching malpractice. Just do it. Klutch be damned.
Klutch..... Ok
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Reed is the better pg but I’d leave it as it is.
Here’s the deal. He still gets most of the minutes and is coming in now often at the first whistle.

Skipping the first few minutes gives him a chance to avoid a quick foul which if he gets a second sends him to the bench.
 
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This is just some speculation on my part and SIAP, but I think this is Cal's logic. At the beginning of the game teams are rattled and more likely to miss their shots. Do I have analytics to back this up? Of course not. Then around three to five minutes everyone gets settled down and plays better offense. I think by bringing in Reed (and Rob) at this point it messes with the opponents' heads enough to make it worthwhile.
You certainly bent over backwards to justify 2 of our 3 best players not starting but it's quite a stretch.
Does Cal look Vulcan? Not all his decisions are logic based.
 
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Can any of you “don’t change things” crowd please explain to me why you are ok going in a hole to start EVERY game and then doing it again to start the second half? We’re lucky that we’ve been good enough to overcome it many times, but other times we haven’t. The tourneys are right around the corner so why even risk it when it’s a “lose and go home” scenario? Why not roll with your best and see what happens?
 
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No clue what you are on about man, I love my life but you must not yours if you think basketball discussions are the reason I disagree with you. Very strange response.

But to reply obviously Askew was misevaluated by everyone evaluating him (Cal, all the different services which is thousands of people, other coaches recruiting him) The point of the thread was to figure out where it went wrong, why he was rated highly. Did he peak early? Work ethic? Competition? That is what OP was trying to figure out.
Anyone who sinks down to petty insults at the frequency you do is usually going through something. I mean the alternative is that you’re an insult slinging hypocrite for no reason and I’d just rather not believe that. I’ve been trying to better at setting the best in people. From my perspective you’re the strange the one.

I agree with that point and that was the only point I was thing to make. While there are some who try to infect Cal into everything there are others who refuse to associate him with any blame at all. And the OP of that thread was among the latter.
 
End of story.
He plays more minutes than anyone on the team...why is who gets to high five under dark lights so important to you all?

He's not a robot, so 40 minutes are unlikely, so would you rather him rest 3 minutes at the end of the half or not play for 3 minutes amd play all the way through?

Not rocket science here
 
That lineup works too. Actually, having Sheppard together with Reeves is the main key to starting games better and not digging a hole for ourselves. The floor spacing with that lineup is good as well.
Reed started 3 games while DJ was out. I went back and watched them. They still got behind early in all 3. The problem I believe is having DJ, Edwards and UGO on the floor together. UGO clogs the lane so DJ can’t drive and Edwards can’t get his own shot. UGO is no post threat. No offense with those 3 together. Funny thing is you NEVER see Cal go back to that starting 5 lineup. They play together the first 4 minutes. Go down by 5-10 and never play together again. That to me is why that STARTING lineup is SO strange???? I’ve really never seen that before with any team ever. Usually a coach starts his most effective lineup. Cal can’t believe it’s his most effective because after the first four minutes he never plays it again. It’s baffling ???
 
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Not sure im computing with what the bible says. That book also says to stone homosexuals to death, and people who have sex before marriage.
I would say that you do not have a relationship with Christ as the Bible Says:
Gal 3:11 So it is clear that no one can be made right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.” No one can live by the Law free of Sin because we all have sinned. So, to be free of sin you have to have a relationship with Christ, who took my sin and your sin to the Cross and paid the Debt(death) for our sin.
John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
It is by Faith in him that we are saved and Born again a new Creature in his Image, not Judging, full of mercy and grace.
Blessings to you and your family. I pray that you find faith in Christ, and the Joy of the Lord fill you!
 
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Reed started 3 games while DJ was out. I went back and watched them. They still got behind early in all 3. The problem I believe is having DJ, Edwards and UGO on the floor together. UGO clogs the lane so DJ can’t drive and Edwards can’t get his own shot. UGO is no post threat. No offense with those 3 together. Funny thing is you NEVER see Cal go back to that starting 5 lineup. They play together the first 4 minutes. Go down by 5-10 and never play together again. That to me is why that STARTING lineup is SO strange???? I’ve really never seen that before with any team ever. Usually a coach starts his most effective lineup. Cal can’t believe it’s his most effective because after the first four minutes he never plays it again. It’s baffling ???
Ummm. Not sure what you watched, because what you are saying is objectively false.

In the loss to Florida, we jumped out to an 8-3 lead. Against Vandy, we jumped out to a 7-2 lead. Wagner didn’t play and Reed started in both of those games.
 
I would say that you do not have a relationship with Christ as the Bible Says:
Gal 3:11 So it is clear that no one can be made right with God by trying to keep the law. For the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.” No one can live by the Law free of Sin because we all have sinned. So, to be free of sin you have to have a relationship with Christ, who took my sin and your sin to the Cross and paid the Debt(death) for our sin.
John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
It is by Faith in him that we are saved and Born again a new Creature in his Image, not Judging, full of mercy and grace.
Blessings to you and your family. I pray that you find faith in Christ, and the Joy of the Lord fill you!
Bob, my man. RunninRichie has objections to some content clearly found in Leviticus. The response you’ve given isn’t going to help a dude like RunninRichie understand how a loving God can dole out this sort of justice. You’ve got to answer these objections. And, to be fair, RunninRichie, your objections have been answered by countless authors and YouTubers. It’s not like you’re raising some earth shattering issues that have yet to be addressed.
 
Bob, my man. RunninRichie has objections to some content clearly found in Leviticus. The response you’ve given isn’t going to help a dude like RunninRichie understand how a loving God can dole out this sort of justice. You’ve got to answer these objections. And, to be fair, RunninRichie, your objections have been answered by countless authors and YouTubers. It’s not like you’re raising some earth shattering issues that have yet to be addressed.
As a Pastor for over forty years, I understand the Issue. Leviticus is well as most of the Old Testament (covenant of the Law) was meant to show man that it was impossible for man to live without sin. In Adam (Son of Man) God took away eternal life as a result of his sin. The only way to have eternal life is to One never sin or two have the sin Paid for with their life. Abraham made a covenant of Faith with God that he Would be blameless and faithful. As proof of that Covenant Abraham and his descendants agreed to be circumcised as a condition of the new Covenant.
Then God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Issac, he took Isaac, put on the Altar and raised his knife to slay him. God intervened with a Ram in a thorn bush as a substitute to pay for their sin.
Fast forward Jesus went to the Cross as the Lamb of God with a Crown of Thorns on his heads as a substitute for our sins under the Law. He was sinless so he qualified as one to pay our debt.
But the Old Testament Law which Jesus fulfilled says A Lamb must be tied in public to be examined for sin for three days, Jesus was! Secondly the lamb has to be owned by the sinner publicly.
Jesus did his part, he was sinless and died for all who own him. Our Part;
Rom 10:9 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
If you don't confess, he is Lord With your Mouth, there is no eternal life. (saved)
Lastly to complete The Covenant you have to circumcised. The circumcise is now spiritual and it is of the heart. Everything that keeps you from being in the image of God must be cut away. But man can't do that alone ( e is a sinner). So Once confession of Jesus as Lord God sends his Holy Spirit to live in your heart to circumcise what is not like him.
That is the Good News, you don't have to be perfect, all you have to do is believe on Christ, Open your and confess him as Lord and invite the Holy Spirit into your heart.

Good night and God Bless all of you!!
 
No big deal to a lot of people. Just know that if I was by far the best player on the team in my mind I would deserve to start the game. Worked on my game my whole life to reach this level of skill, why should I sit to pacify a much lesser skilled player? Just not right in my opinion. And to add to the situation we start slow a lot of games. So the team is effected. We get down early then here comes the coach telling me get us back in the game. I think it is a deal that is not right. Reed isn't going to say anything. Too much maturity and class.

Really the starters should be Shep, Dilly, Reeves, Mitchell and Big Z. At least, that is what is best from a team standpoint when chasing a championship. Thiero the super sub and work in a couple of others when needed.
 
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Both halves total - our brilliant leader starts same 5 both halves no matter how horrible they play
He is one bizarre dude
But it wasn’t 21 to 5. And I’m not trying to defend Calipari, I know how people are about that around here. I’m okay if he leaves. but the 21 to 5 is just not a fact
 
No big deal to a lot of people. Just know that if I was by far the best player on the team in my mind I would deserve to start the game. Worked on my game my whole life to reach this level of skill, why should I sit to pacify a much lesser skilled player? Just not right in my opinion. And to add to the situation we start slow a lot of games. So the team is effected. We get down early then here comes the coach telling me get us back in the game. I think it is a deal that is not right. Reed isn't going to say anything. Too much maturity and class.

Really the starters should be Shep, Dilly, Reeves, Mitchell and Big Z. At least, that is what is best from a team standpoint when chasing a championship. Thiero the super sub and work in a couple of others when needed.
The advanced stats show that the lineup that is unquestionably the best has Thiero in it.
 
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But it wasn’t 21 to 5. And I’m not trying to defend Calipari, I know how people are about that around here. I’m okay if he leaves. but the 21 to 5 is just not a fact
DJ was benched in the first half when it was 12-3. In the second half, DJ was benched after MSU outscored us 9-4.

So it was 21-7.
 
From ksr today—

John Calipari was asked if he’s considering a change in the starting lineup on his call-in show.

“No, we’ll stick with what we’re doing right now.”
 
DJ was benched in the first half when it was 12-3. In the second half, DJ was benched after MSU outscored us 9-4.

So it was 21-7.
Nope it was 7-3 first and 9-6 second. They actually went on a 7-0 run after DJ was benched too. Again not defending, Shepard should start in my opinion but it’s not as bad as people make it seem. Kentucky just didn’t play very well in the first half at all.
 
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He plays more minutes than anyone on the team...why is who gets to high five under dark lights so important to you all?

He's not a robot, so 40 minutes are unlikely, so would you rather him rest 3 minutes at the end of the half or not play for 3 minutes amd play all the way through?

Not rocket science here
You left out resting 3 minutes in the middle of the half like pretty much the rest of the world does. The two ways you state is has him playing 17 minutes per half without rest. That's also not rocket science.
 
The advanced stats show that the lineup that is unquestionably the best has Thiero in it.
Liked what I read this morning about Big Z. They pointed out that even though Big Z did not score much against MS St they showed where he intimidated several drivers from taking a shot inside. They also said he brings his man out away from the basket that helps unclog the lane for drivers. So you can't go totally by stats with those two things in mind.
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Mitchell at the five and Thiero at the four would also be OK but then you don't have that 7-2 intimidator at the rim on D. Doesn't really matter, Cal is not going to change anything. He would rather pacify before worrying about a slow start.
 
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Liked what I read this morning about Big Z. They pointed out that even though Big Z did not score much against MS St they showed where he intimidated several drivers from taking a shot inside. They also said he brings his man out away from the basket that helps unclog the lane for drivers. So you can't go totally by stats with those two things in mind.
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Mitchell at the five and Thiero at the four would also be OK but then you don't have that 7-2 intimidator at the rim on D. Doesn't really matter, Cal is not going to change anything. He would rather pacify before worrying about a slow start.
Would like to read that, you have link ? Thanks
 
Nope it was 7-3 first and 9-6 second. They actually went on a 7-0 run after DJ was benched too. Again not defending, Shepard should start in my opinion but it’s not as bad as people make it seem. Kentucky just didn’t play very well in the first half at all.
Nope. Watching on DVR at this moment.

DJ checks out at the 16:15 mark after Hubbard makes the second of three foul shots. It’s 11-3 at this point.

In the second half, DJ is benched at the 18:10 mark after throwing a poor lob pass to Adou and an MSU score off his live ball turnover. The score is 52-39 at that point after UK trailed at half 43-35. So MSU outscored UK 9-4 with DJ in the first 1:50 of the second half.

That’s 20-7. And I’m not sure if Hubbard’s 3rd made FT counts against DJ’s plus/minus or not (which would make it 21-7).

So again, it’s objectively true that we were outscored 20-7 (or perhaps 21-7 depending on what you do with Wagner checking out after the second made foul shot, rather than the third).

It really bothers me that some posters just make stuff up. This is easily verifiable information.
 
Nope. Watching on DVR at this moment.

DJ checks out at the 16:15 mark after Hubbard makes the second of three foul shots. It’s 11-3 at this point.

In the second half, DJ is benched at the 18:10 mark after throwing a poor lob pass to Adou and an MSU score off his live ball turnover. The score is 52-39 at that point after UK trailed at half 43-35. So MSU outscored UK 9-4 with DJ in the first 1:50 of the second half.

That’s 20-7. And I’m not sure if Hubbard’s 3rd made FT counts against DJ’s plus/minus or not (which would make it 21-7).

So again, it’s objectively true that we were outscored 20-7 (or perhaps 21-7 depending on what you do with Wagner checking out after the second made foul shot, rather than the third).

It really bothers me that some posters just make stuff up. This is easily verifiable information.
You do realize Shepard and rob were already in when it was 7-3 right? I didn’t make anything up. The second half score I missed I thought it was 52-41 when DJ went out. So I missed 2 points.
 
You do realize Shepard and rob were already in when it was 7-3 right? I didn’t make anything up. The second half score I missed I thought it was 52-41 when DJ went out. So I missed 2 points.
Yeah, I see that in the first half. But DJ is in when it stretches to 11-3. So what do we do with that? I mean, DJ, not Reed started (that’s what this thread is about) and with DJ as a part of the starting lineup, we did go down 11-3.
 
I thin you have to start Reed at this point. He's just too good. ANd I'd rather he get a breather MID game, then have to play the final 35.

That said, someone like Dilly, I'm not as concerned with starting or not, because he DOES have a propensity of picking up fouls, and if his shot isn't falling, then his contributions become limited. It's not exactly some awful strategy to bring in a guy like Dilly to go against a teams 2nd unit of players. A LOT of teams in the NBA will moves guys to the bench for this very reason.

But Reed, has to start. I'm hoping he gets the nod soon. I think the noise will become loud for Cal, from the national media, if a lottery pick and a "face" of college basketball, is still coming off the bench.
 
Yeah, I see that in the first half. But DJ is in when it stretches to 11-3. So what do we do with that? I mean, DJ, not Reed started (that’s what this thread is about) and with DJ as a part of the starting lineup, we did go down 11-3.
It’s not fair to put that all on DJ when it was 7-3 when they came in, and DJ also had the only 3 points for the first 6 minutes. Just dumb to blame the bad start on one player. And again I think Shepard should start, so I’m not saying that.
 
We actually would have lost to ND in the elite 8.
Games are situational. They won the ND game. They lost the Wisconsin game. What was it, THREE straight shot clock violations in crunch time as the Harrisons just passed the ball back and forth to each other and ignored KARL ANTHONY TOWNS in the post?

I was there. I've erased much of it from my memory. But watching the Harrisons act as the iceberg to UK's Titanic in that second half was infuriating. Cal was the one person would could have stopped it. He chose not to.
 
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It’s not fair to put that all on DJ when it was 7-3 when they came in, and DJ also had the only 3 points for the first 6 minutes. Just dumb to blame the bad start on one player. And again I think Shepard should start, so I’m not saying that.
Wagner can't defend. Reed is going to break the all-time UK steals record. Wagner can't shoot. Reed is 50% (!) from 3-pt range. I think Reed needs to play every minute he can get. Including starting.
 
Wagner can't defend. Reed is going to break the all-time UK steals record. Wagner can't shoot. Reed is 50% (!) from 3-pt range. I think Reed needs to play every minute he can get. Including starting.
Did I not say he should start? Not really sure what your point is. I also don’t see why people want to constantly trash DJ all the time. He didn’t even play bad the other night he actually had a good game
 
Reed other than Reeves is probably the best player on the team on any other team in America he would be starting but we have Cal as our coach who is not a good coach.
 
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