Hypothetical question ... Sheppard & Dillingham

[megablue]

Let's say we have the exact same roster, but we have Sheppard and Dillingham as Freshmen in place of Noah and Perry. I'm assuming everyone would've transferred in, as Sheppard and Dilly would've been unproven incoming Freshmen. Like I said, this is a hypothetical for fun and discussion.

Do you think Reed and Dilly would start in place of Butler and Oweh, as Pope would opt for offense over defense ?? I see it as a tough, yet interesting question, as Reed and Dilly were fabulous shooters. I definitely think they would take minutes from Chandler, Kriisa, Brea and Robinson ... how many, not sure. ????

One thing for certain, that would be a pretty incredible roster, top-to-bottom, assuming Sheppard and Dillingham showed up like they did last year ... and I think they certainly would !! It would be a HELLUVA roster !!!

I don't think Butler and Oweh on defense cannot be under-appreciated, but Sheppard and Dillingham were great scorers and 3-point shooters. I think Butler and Oweh would be our staring guards in this scenario, fwiw, but Reed and Dilly would get very serious clock.

 

[SkyPrince1]

Let's say we have the exact same roster, but we have Sheppard and Dillingham as Freshmen in place of Noah and Perry. I'm assuming everyone would've transferred in, as Sheppard and Dilly would've been unproven incoming Freshmen. Like I said, this is a hypothetical for fun and discussion.

Do you think Reed and Dilly would start in place of Butler and Oweh, as Pope would opt for offense over defense ?? I see it as a tough, yet interesting question, as Reed and Dilly were fabulous shooters. I definitely think they would take minutes from Chandler, Kriisa, Brea and Robinson ... how many, not sure. ????

One thing for certain, that would be a pretty incredible roster, top-to-bottom, assuming Sheppard and Dillingham showed up like they did last year ... and I think they certainly would !! It would be a HELLUVA roster !!!

I don't think Butler and Oweh on defense cannot be under-appreciated, but Sheppard and Dillingham were great scorers and 3-point shooters. I think Butler and Oweh would be our staring guards in this scenario, fwiw, but Reed and Dilly would get very serious clock.

They may be unproven but 5 stars get automatic respect from other players.
While I don't think Butler and Oweh would be intimidated by Rob and Reed but I think knowing they were going to be on the roster would have given both a reason not to come here.
I believe that same logic will apply if we sign Caleb Wilson.
It will be a hard sell to get a top portal 4 with CW on the roster.

 

[ukfan1622]

Let's say we have the exact same roster, but we have Sheppard and Dillingham as Freshmen in place of Noah and Perry. I'm assuming everyone would've transferred in, as Sheppard and Dilly would've been unproven incoming Freshmen. Like I said, this is a hypothetical for fun and discussion.

Do you think Reed and Dilly would start in place of Butler and Oweh, as Pope would opt for offense over defense ?? I see it as a tough, yet interesting question, as Reed and Dilly were fabulous shooters. I definitely think they would take minutes from Chandler, Kriisa, Brea and Robinson ... how many, not sure. ????

One thing for certain, that would be a pretty incredible roster, top-to-bottom, assuming Sheppard and Dillingham showed up like they did last year ... and I think they certainly would !! It would be a HELLUVA roster !!!

I don't think Butler and Oweh on defense cannot be under-appreciated, but Sheppard and Dillingham were great scorers and 3-point shooters. I think Butler and Oweh would be our staring guards in this scenario, fwiw, but Reed and Dilly would get very serious clock.

Yeah, I'm not sure who would start but they'd both play ahead of Chandler and probably ahead of Kriisa.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

We wouldn't have the same players if they were here. I'd say once they got in here they would start or maybe Reed starts and rob is 6th man type.

We have some guys who aren't good on D on current roster as well.

 

[JonathanW]

Had either Sheppard or Dillingham stayed, or especially both, then we wouldn't have gotten all of the transfers we did. If both, then probably at least 2 (buy maybe 3) of Kriisa, Butler & Brea would not have come. I'm not saying I'd rather have those 3, just saying that it's not as simple as replacing 2 freshmen who are not likely to play much with 2 all conference players, and expect everything else to remain the same.

 

[BlueSince92]

You know what I think one of them might. Right now Jaxson Robinson is only shooting 25% from three. Part of that is from his almost 0fer against Duke and I’m not ready to hold that against him. That was a tough team and he is still very new in his starting role. Plus anyone can just randomly have an off night and if it happens to coincide with playing our biggest rival: CRAP! *but* I’m not nearly ready to pronounce that he needs to come off the bench because he can’t handle pressure or he folds in big games, like some are saying.

OTOH Jaxson only shot total 30.7% from three in our first two games. I see it as he is still our star player and we need him to be, but he is slumping a bit. But while he’s slumping and especially if it continues, in the hypothetical where we had freshmen Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham on this team right now, I think Coach would definitely try them out there occasionally, at first in practice and then probably based on how they handled it in practice would try it in games. One or both of them. I’m glad that we have a coach who would be cerebral enough to see the big picture like that and not be afraid to make a constructive move like that for a span of weeks. Who would probably frame it as a challenge to Jaxson, having him in his office every day telling him how sure he was that he was going to be winning his starting spot back. As opposed to doing nothing about the issue, being paralyzed by fear of “taking his heart” until the fanbase turned on the team and the kid himself developed an actual complex about it,

I think in that hypothetical we would see Reed more likely than Rob. He has by far the higher basketball IQ. And I think that’s the reason we’re not likely to see a similar experiment in reality with Perry or Noah or Chandler. I do think we’ll see them all later in the year. They just don’t have that freakishly high Div-1 basketball IQ yet that Reed already had at this point.

 

[Bluegrassking]

I'd love to have Dilly but I don't think he would start but might finish.

Reed would also probably would not start but he'd eat all of Kerr's clock and probably some of Robinson's too moving 00 to the wing some more.

 

[screwduke1]

Ain't no way both wouldn't start. Maybe they wouldn't at first...but Pope would see the writing on the wall for how good both are and would end up starting them unlike Cal. I don't think Pope is an idiot.

 

[trueblujr2]

Had either Sheppard or Dillingham stayed, or especially both, then we wouldn't have gotten all of the transfers we did. If both, then probably at least 2 (buy maybe 3) of Kriisa, Butler & Brea would not have come. I'm not saying I'd rather have those 3, just saying that it's not as simple as replacing 2 freshmen who are not likely to play much with 2 all conference players, and expect everything else to remain the same.

I think Brea might have still come, he would have essentially replaced Reeves. There’s plenty of room for him Reed and Dilly all on the floor. Brea is like 6’-7” so he’s playing in the three hole mostly anyway.

 

[JonathanW]

Had both stayed, we probably don’t get at least 2 of Butler or Brea or Owen here.
If just 1 returned, not get 1 maybe 2 of those.
Not saying I wouldn’t rather have them, but that it wouldn’t be simple addition to what we have now.

I love them both, but
I’m also not how sure Rob’s game would fit this offense. I think that’s the same problem Kriisa is having.
But Reed was made for this offense.

 

[Princecal]

Had both stayed, we probably don’t get at least 2 of Butler or Brea or Owen here.
If just 1 returned, not get 1 maybe 2 of those.
Not saying I wouldn’t rather have them, but that it wouldn’t be simple addition to what we have now.

I love them both, but
I’m also not how sure Rob’s game would fit this offense. I think that’s the same problem Kriisa is having.
But Reed was made for this offense.

Idk about the fit but Dilly would definitely fill the void of the player who can go get his own shot for sure

 

[UKWildcats1987]

I'd love to have Dilly but I don't think he would start but might finish.

Reed would also probably would not start but he'd eat all of Kerr's clock and probably some of Robinson's too moving 00 to the wing some more.

Shep would be the best player on this team by far. You are seriously saying Pope would pull a moron Cal move and not start him?

 

[ORCAT]

Ain't no way both wouldn't start. Maybe they wouldn't at first...but Pope would see the writing on the wall for how good both are and would end up starting them unlike Cal. I don't think Pope is an idiot.

Same exact thing I was thinking. Once Pope realized how good those two were they would start whereas Cal just didn't get it and always dug us a hole before putting them in.

 

[Zissou87]

Unpopular opinion, but I think Dilly is more needed on this team than Reed. Dilly is the guy that can go and get his own shot. He also has the tools to become a solid on-ball defender. I don't think Reed has the lateral foot speed for that.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

OP wasn't asking if we'd land the portal transfers if Sheppard and Dillingham returned. He was asking if they'd start if they were both incoming freshmen.

Yes, they'd both start. My guess it that Pope would eventually go with a three guard lineup.

If Sheppard and Dillingham were coming in as freshmen, neither would have initially scared away our portal guys because Sheppard was a composite #33 player and Dillingham was a composite #16.

Now if they both came back, obviously we wouldn't have landed some guys. Butler likely doesn't come here, and neither does Brea. We'd still have landed Oweh, however, because he plays the 3/2. I also think we'd have still landed Robinson.

If those guys returned:
G - Sheppard
G - Dillingham
G - Oweh
F - Carr
C - Williams
With Robinson as 6th man.

If Sheppard and Dillingham were merely incoming freshmen and thus didn't scare away the portal transfers:

G - Butler (Pope uses him to stop opposing dribble penetration)
G - Dillingham
G - Sheppard
F - Carr
C - Williams


The bench would be sub-'96 level with Brea, Robinson, Oweh, etc.