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I thought streaming was supposed to save money

Keep direct TV streaming drop everything else including movie channels. If you're using something with an android based os(fire tv stick/box) install cinemahd(aka cinema free) or filmplus...or both. You can use a VPN, but as far as I know, there's laws against downloading pirated material, but none against streaming it. Also kodi is an option.
Still have to be careful with some of those programs. The “stream”, but i think it still pulls for torrents which may appear as downloads to the internet provider.
 
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I get direct TV streaming and include HBO max ESPN for $140 per month . Then I subscribe to Hulu, Paramount plus , Apple TV , Amazon prime all for about $12 each per month . Trying to figure where the savings are . Now to see UK play a baseball game they want me to subscribe to ESPN plus for a hundred bucks a year .
Am I doing something wrong ?
Been with DIRECTV stream since day 1 with the $35 Att tv now too good to be true no price increase go big plan. Plan has nearly tripled since. It is convenient to have tv wherever though, and I don’t think cable lets you have access to all channels while on the go.
 
The Dtv seemingly boosts you up more than need be because I'm at more like 105ish for YouTube TV including ESPN plus a Max subscription (though I do the annual so that shaves a fair piece off).

I do annual on Disney so that averages like 13 a month. I also have Paramount mostly just for Star Trek really but only pay for it all because I won't deign to tolerate commercials and get it free with my phone. So that is $10.

That is about 130. I also have Amazon but not really. counting it because the TV is a side effect of Prime and I'd likely pay it or most of it with no TV.
Even if I did it would just take me to the $140ish that is your baseline.

It is maybe a hair cheaper but certainly more options by far than traditional cable.

I could easily bring the annual cost down a few hundred a year by turning off YouTube TV after the tournament until football season and another 10 a month by dealing with some commercials with Star Trek but I hate to lose all that infinite DVR stuff I barely watch but like the thought of.

You should cancel Paramount and sign up through your Amazon. The subscription is cheaper and the app is way better. I signed up and it's a $1 or 2 cheaper starting out, but they you go to cancel and they'll offer you to keep it for $4.99 a month, same with AMC+, Peacock, etc. Then you only have one app to use also so the movies are consolidated better.
 
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I get direct TV streaming and include HBO max ESPN for $140 per month . Then I subscribe to Hulu, Paramount plus , Apple TV , Amazon prime all for about $12 each per month . Trying to figure where the savings are . Now to see UK play a baseball game they want me to subscribe to ESPN plus for a hundred bucks a year .
Am I doing something wrong ?
Sling is the best deal based on cost per channel. Pluto TV and Tubi are excellent free apps that i use. Philo is also good if you don't care about news channels. It's only like $25 per month.

You can go the IPTV route, but they are sketchy. Most are unreliable and always getting shut down every few days.
 
Knew a guy who got fired from a fantastic job because he was selling movies for $5 in the parking lot. Thought he was selling drugs then figured they had to pin something on him.
There were guys selling at the company I work for but thing was upper management was buying from them.
Everybody loves a deal
 
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Oh I fully understand and agree the thievery by "Big Business" is ridiculously over the top blatant fraud against the American public now. (Any and every excuse is used, true or mostly not true but who is going to prove it.) What I was stating is that piracy no matter how it is justified still costs all consumers. The cost comes in fees to lawyers first and foremost. That cost is passed on no matter how you (Not you.) think you are tricking "Big Business"... they do not care, they just keep raising prices in the name of "increased costs"... Amazing how those prices never go down, they are just reallocated somewhere else.) Apologies, I have to go to work...

Wonder how eggs went to three dollars and more a dozen from $.75 .... Oh the excuse has long passed...
Even if you are 100% spot on it's kind of a lost cause.
Majority is going to side with RR's point of view and you probably won't live long enough to reap any financial benefits from an " anti piracy campaign"
Most people just don't GAF so if someone has copy of the new Mad Max for $5 I say knock you yourself out
 
Knew a guy who got fired from a fantastic job because he was selling movies for $5 in the parking lot. Thought he was selling drugs then figured they had to pin something on him.
It’s probably been 20 years ago now, but there was a guy at work who was fired for that, but he was selling them out of his office during working hours. It probably wouldn’t have mattered if he’d been selling homemade cupcakes. My employer was pretty easy to work for, but operating a side business while you were on the clock was a no-no.
 
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Pardon me if I don't care about the multi-billion dollar corporations not getting a few more dollars.
Actually if I watch a Tom Cruise movie for free instead of renting it I might be costing Tom and the movie company 1/1000 of a penny each but in reality I am not making that choice. The movie has no real value to
me and I'm making a choice of whether to watch the movie for free or not watch at all. Either way they make
the same amount of money off me...nothing. I'm paying $85 per month for my internet when folks in other developed countries pay far less because their government puts limits on what they can charge when ours
says "soak them for all you can get". All these American companies are selling cheaper to non-Americans
and gouging Americans so I'm not at all worried about their profits.
 
My buddy showed me his pirate box thing. He got it from some guy in Canada, and it's about the size of a small router. Anyway, it's like what some of you are describing, every channel known to man etc, and I think his was possibly a one time purchase for $100 or $150. It was pretty impressive. Even had a massive adult section, if that's your jam. Really, the only thing I wasn't a fan of is the user interface. Now granted, it was my first time driving it, but I didn't find it the easiest to navigate every channel known to man. What are similar things people recommend? I don't need every channel known to man, but the usual stuff, and in a nice navigation interface would pretty tempting.

Louisville media box. He’s being sued but I think he’s still selling them. Basically he just puts Kodi on an android box, but if you don’t know what that means, it’s tricky to do it yourself
 
Argh, me matey. I see plenty of ye scallywags flying the Jolly Roger. Ter no law on the high seas! Sail on!
I used to be a huge pirate. I stopped when Netflix had all the content I wanted for cheap, so why bother with the hassle?

Recently I canceled Netflix after 12 years. Seeing if my private tracker still exists…
 
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Still have to be careful with some of those programs. The “stream”, but i think it still pulls for torrents which may appear as downloads to the internet provider.
Yeah. Especially kodi. I use a vpn with Kodi(unknown source repos). But I've never heard of any issues with the stand alone apps.
 
Lol no one is getting arrested for downloading movies.
That's not what i said. Just saying the laws exist. My isp "flagged" me the one time I downloaded a movie, without using a vpn, via torrent. But never heard of anyone getting arrested.

Edit: it's also possible an isp will cancel your account if you're flagged too many times. Never heard of that happening either. Still...never know. So downloading, I'd use a vpn. Streaming? Never been flagged for it with or without a vpn.
 
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FWIW, if you have Verizon you can bundle Netflix and HBO Max for just $10 a month. I was paying over $20 a month on Netflix alone, until I recently upgraded my phone and the agent told me that I could bundle them and other streaming services through them. It was a lot cheaper and is added to my monthly cell phone bill.

You can also bundle the other services like ESPN+,Hulu and Disney+ through Verizon for a significant discount.
 
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I get direct TV streaming and include HBO max ESPN for $140 per month . Then I subscribe to Hulu, Paramount plus , Apple TV , Amazon prime all for about $12 each per month . Trying to figure where the savings are . Now to see UK play a baseball game they want me to subscribe to ESPN plus for a hundred bucks a year .
Am I doing something wrong ?
Is that a serious question?
 
It did save you money until all the studios decided they wanted a bigger piece of the pie and created their own streaming services to house their money making content.

But also nothing is forcing you to stay subscribed to all of them every single month.
 
Because a small, probably tiny, percent of American entertainment pirates and not causing streaming services to continually increases prices. Sure, I bet you can find a Google search, paid for by said companies, that pirating somehow justifies prices increases. But we all know that's complete BS, and it's just plain ole greed. All they are really doing is making conversations like this more common. The American consumer found a way to fight back.
If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing.
 
I get Hulu, Netflix, and right now Apple TV free from T-Mobile. Plus MLB TV but don't use it. I watch locals over the air. Then there's Pluto TV. It's like a free cable TV service minus most of the sports and bigger networks. Lots of good content on there.

With no college football or basketball on right now, I pay only for my Internet. Thats like $70 something with Spectrum, but think I'm going to switch to T-Mobile internet and save over $30 a month. I can run over to my mom's and watch the games if I want. So my expenses will only be about $40 a month going forward.
Everyone I know that tried T-Mobile internet hated it and dropped it.
 
Everyone I know that tried T-Mobile internet hated it and dropped it.
My mom lives a mile from me and has had it for the past 2 or 3 months and has no issues. I've also seen no issues when at her house. The problem they advertise against it is that walls cause issues. I think I solved that potential problem.

I connected a decent wifi router to her modem and haven't seen any issues. I have a much better wifi router on my system. I figure the wifi router penetrates the walls much better. As long as the T-Mobile modem gets a good signal, there's no problems.

There's a tower between our houses and might belong to T-Mobile with our signal being so good. I just ran a speed test and got 348 mbps down and like 8.6 up with a 20 ping. Ran it with Spectrum and got almost identical numbers. So $30+ more a month for the same thing doesn't seem worth it.
 
I get direct TV streaming and include HBO max ESPN for $140 per month . Then I subscribe to Hulu, Paramount plus , Apple TV , Amazon prime all for about $12 each per month . Trying to figure where the savings are . Now to see UK play a baseball game they want me to subscribe to ESPN plus for a hundred bucks a year .
Am I doing something wrong ?
Direct TV is your issue there. $70 for YouTube TV or Sling TV ($55).

Also, do you need all of those? The idea of streaming is to pick and choose from a buffet. It looks like you chose the buffet as a whole.
 
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Direct TV is your issue there. $70 for YouTube TV or Sling TV ($55).

Also, do you need all of those? The idea of streaming is to pick and choose from a buffet. It looks like you chose the buffet as a whole.
This. You're getting more channels(plus locals)/sports channels with youtube tv vs directv base package for around the same price.
 
kodi blows. Constant buffering, hard to navigate, some shows missing, just not worth it to me.
Use Real Debrid with it and it will solve a majority of buffering problems and available streams with movies and shows. I use it for my Cinema HD and Crew add on with Kodi and works great. It’s pretty cheap, about $9 for 3 months, but you can get longer or shorter terms.
 
Use Real Debrid with it and it will solve a majority of buffering problems and available streams with movies and shows. I use it for my Cinema HD and Crew add on with Kodi and works great. It’s pretty cheap, about $9 for 3 months, but you can get longer or shorter terms.
I have a free real debrid account. Never tried premium. Does it make a difference with iptv channels in kodi?

Edit: I have the crew addon. Lots of iptv streams. some of them work well, but buffering is an issue.
 
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Use Real Debrid with it and it will solve a majority of buffering problems and available streams with movies and shows. I use it for my Cinema HD and Crew add on with Kodi and works great. It’s pretty cheap, about $9 for 3 months, but you can get longer or shorter terms.
I have the crew addon, any benefit to the cinemaHD one you mention?
 
I do the ole Hulu/ESPN+/Disney+ thing plus Netflix and off and on the others to binge somethings for a month then stop til the next year. and its getting up there to around 100$ a month but still not the 130$ i was paying with Direct tv back in 2014

after the NCAAT ended I paused Hulu and will pay for it again when Football season starts.
 
Lmao dude, you just linked me a wikihow article. Yes, it's illegal on paper. But like I said, these big copyright holders go after the hosters and site owners. Not the dude downloading a few movies. And that's even if they go after them at all. Its rarely prosecuted. And the lawsuit in that article was from 2011. If you honestly think the police are busting down the door because you downloaded hangover 2, when they have drug dealer, murder, and rape cases to investigate then lol.


between 2005 and 2008, around 12-15% of Americans downloaded media, during that same time the RIAA was going after people. The RIAA says that there were between 18,000 and 35,000 cases, but that may only represent about 28,000 people facing lawsuits (threatened, filled, or settled).

Here's the limited math part, of the estimated 45,600,000 "pirates" during those years, only 28,000 were "caught." This translates to a 1 in 1,629 chance of being caught at that time. A quick note, getting "caught" doesn't mean getting in trouble. Those that have been solidly caught were made an example of and faced heavy fines. On the other hand, the MPAA seemed to focus more on the sources of "piracy" rather than the consumer.

I had a buddy at WKU in the early 2000s who was running a giant P2P server in his dorm room of pirated movies, TV shows, music and porn. He got “caught” by the MPAA and ratted out by WKU. Received threatening letters from the MPAA and the university. He shut down his server voluntarily and nothing else came of it.

He was downloading and uploading multiple TBs a day using a T3 dorm server. We were all dialup era kids and went wild with the pirating after our first taste of broadband. Lol
 
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I had a buddy at WKU in the early 2000s who was running a giant P2P server in his dorm room of pirated movies, TV shows, music and porn. He got “caught” by the MPAA and ratted out by WKU. Received threatening letters from the MPAA and the university. He shut down his server voluntarily and nothing else came of it.

He was downloading and uploading multiple TBs a day using a T3 dorm server. We were all dialup era kids and went wild with the pirating after our first taste of broadband. Lol
All of those stories come out of the early 2000s lol. Nowadays you just get a letter from the ISP maybe.
 
I know someone that just typed in Iptv in search bar of alibaba and got like probably almost every channel in the world, including all the sports channels for around $20 for 6 months. Downsides I noticed was couldn’t record anything and stream freezes way more than YouTube tv or Hulu unless you have really fast internet
Now that I recall they were using an app called Stream Killer to get around something like that.
 
All of those stories come out of the early 2000s lol. Nowadays you just get a letter from the ISP maybe.

Even then, the most punishment most offenders got was “stop doing that, please.”

I would imagine pursuing pirates in 2024, especially those watching a livestream they won’t be keeping on their own machines, is a massive waste of time and resources.
 
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Here I can pay $20 and get 1,000s of channels but it’s one of those to good to be true things to me so I go with YTTV. However, they kept raising the price so I got it turned off. Need to decide something before football season.
 
I have the crew addon, any benefit to the cinemaHD one you mention?
I have the Crew add in as well. I usually start with Cinema just because I like the interface if I’m looking for a movie to watch, since it has more of a preview than Crew. However if I’m searching for a specific movie or show, I may start with Cinema and switch over to Crew if I can’t find it there.
 
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