Happy Birthday Larry Bird...the GOAT imo.
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Well he did hit enough sky hooks to become the NBA all time leading scorer so there is that.
Jordan wouldn't mess with Robert Parish. Just because he smacked Steve Kerr doesn't make him bad. The Chief offered him to get some, but he didn't. Jordan knew who to pounce on.
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How many points do you think those players would have scored against Bird? Bird routinely was assigned the worst scorer on the opposing team and even while playing an illegal zone defense he couldn't stop anyone.
If that is the only shade that you have for Kareem, you should simply stop posting.
Bird played on one of the best team in the game, so don't act like Bird carried the team because he didn't. Swap out Jordan for Bird and those Bull teams wouldn't have won any championships.
Man, it's a wonder how Bird was able to drag the Indiana State Sycamores to the title game. Has that program ever won anything before or since Bird? He won 3 titles at Boston. I honestly think he would have won more had injuries not took a toll. 3 MVPs in a row. People who know basketball put Bird among the best. Bird made 2nd team all defense 3 times. He was a good help defender, and was great at anticipating passing lanes .
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The Bulls won 50 something games without Jordan. Made it to the Eastern Conference finals.
Bird was named to the NBA ALL DEFENSIVE Second Team 3 times and is listed in the Top 60 ALL TIME NBA DEFENSIVE PLAYERS so I think he would have done pretty well defensively and he would have probably outscored them and then hit a last second shot with 2 defenders hanging all over him to win the game. And that was after he told the other team what play they were running and where he was shooting it from just to piss them off.
Hell yes he would. Bird was something else.
Because he had very little athleticism and wound up as an all time great. Not because he was pasty white
Pretty sure it took a lot more to be credited with an assist 20 years ago than it does today. Bird was no doubt a better passer than Lebron and anyone over 50 who saw them both play a lot would agree IMO
Bird had 42 points in the third quarter before being ejected in a brawl against Dr J. At the time Julius had 6 points and Bird 42. Bird kept reminding him of the tally then all hell broke loose.
Ain't no one messing with Robert Parish.
But I wasn't sharing an example of Jordan being bad, it was the level of competitiveness he had. Chris Webber shared a Jordan story that I thought was great. Webber said during a really competitive playoff series, when the team bus rolled up in Chicag, Jordan and Pip were sitting next to Jordan's car, smoking cigars and talked trash as Webber's team walked by.
Those Celtics teams were loaded. Especially '86. Parish, McHale, DJ, Walton, Ainge... C'mon. Even without Bird, that team was loaded with talent.
The closest we've had to a team collecting talent like that, were the recent Warriors teams.
Walton was a shell of himself. Ainge was a good player, nothing special. DJ was a career 14 pts 5 assists guy, who was a great defender. Parish was good. McHale was a hell of a player. Take Bird off that team, you have a good team but nowhere near as great. Parish's best season in Golden State was 17 points a game. Bird made them better .
The year Bird got to play. If you didn't understand that there's really no point in a conversation.
Take Bird off the team, and they're still making the playoffs. DJ is a HoF player who had already won a championship in Seattle. Walton, wasn't what he once was, but he was coming off bench and contributed. Bird was the best player on that team and I think they won 65-67 games in '86 but those Celtics teams in the 80s were stacked with talent, like the Lakers. The rest of the league were mostly nobodies outside of Philly and Detroit for the decade.
Bird was other worldly at times, but Red built a great team around him with other HoF talent. It's not like he dragged a team of nobodies to the Finals. They weren't exactly the '04 Pistons.
Milwaukee Bucks had some damn good teams. I bet the Celtics without Bird wouldn't win 56 games like the Bulls did without Jordan.
With 4 other HOF players they wouldn’t win 55 games like Chicago did without Jordan? Hyperbole much?
You said immediate impact when he was drafted. I simply stated that was false. You evidently don't understand the English language.
I mentioned the 80's Lakers in my other posts.
I was referring to teams in a more modern era, post 2000.
Bird was great, he wasn't so great that a team that loaded wouldn't win 55 games without him.
Even to that end, he's admitting that Jordan-less bulls would be better than a Bird-less Celtics team. The Bulls had Pip, and who else? Grant? The Celtics had a HoF player coming off the bench.
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And you don't understand context of the English language. Now, run on back to your basement.
That's totally true. There's a reason why the Bulls won three in a row while winning more than 60 games each season. It wasn't just because they had arguably the greatest player ever.
I saw one bumped from 2015 about Matthew Mcconoghauy(sp) dad. It was by someone else, what I'm wondering is why are ppl doing it.
