Greg Brown entertains G-league offer

[caneintally]

Only guys interested in the top 15 would be guys who can't make the grade with 1-2 exceptions .The Gleague does not help you promote or build your brand . Zion is Zion as he was on tv for Duke 2 times a week and the talk of every sportscenter. You think he would of been in the G league ? LMAO

 

[GonzoCat90]

He was popular but if you are trying to tell me he had the following in high school that he did after his year of exposure at Duke then we will have to agree to disagree. The exposure he got at Duke expanded his popularity probably by a factor of 10 (opinion). And that is not something that playing in the G-League will be able to replicate, at least not for the foreseeable future.

It definitely improved. I'm just saying that I don't think it was dependent on his college platform. He's the platform. It would have followed him anywhere in the same way it did with LeBron or Luka.

Look at the NBA's biggest stars. College wasn't the star maker for any of them. LeBron. Harden. Russ. Kyrie. Durant. Luka. Whoever. They didn't need the college brand building.

If a kid is the next Kobe, it won't matter. If he's not, college won't help.

 

[CB3UK]

If the G league starts pulling the top recruits consistently, lots of fans that don’t like the roster turnover every year will finally get their wish. Big time programs will have to settle for players that will most likely stay 2-4 years.

Exactly. Thats why Im all for this. Offer away boys.

 

[UK-chulo]

The NBA makes $9 billion dollars a year. Shelling out $5 million a year total for the top high school prospects is pocket change. It’s 100% sustainable because the NBA runs and finances the G League.

Plus the NBA finances the WNBA, which loses money. They can afford to setup a full farm system or even an academy system like soccer in Europe with club teams having different tiers. The money is there.

 

[Fox2monk]

I will definitely miss the elites. I’ve been in Cals corner since the beginning. I love Cal, I love what he’s done. He literally revived our program overnight. He’s brought us a title and multiple Final Fours and exciting seasons and perhaps the best decade in our programs history. I support him. I will continue to support him because more often than not he has us at least in contention for a FF run.

THAT being said I am growing weary of the O&D and professionalization. The constant turnover etc. If we have to “suffer” watching 60th-100th ranked guys in college basketball for 2-4 years I’m absolutely 100% okay with that and actually look forward to it in a way.
Will it be different? Yes. But it will absolutely still be enjoyable and entertaining. Some are acting like the non top 25 and the dudes who aren’t in the 1st round of mock drafts every year aren’t still really really good basketball players.

I’m the same way. We can still get the best of the guys who come to school. We will then have a chance to have a roster with the same names for 2,3,4 years. It will probably feel more like the past and that’s a good thing as well.

 

[TheThack]

It definitely improved. I'm just saying that I don't think it was dependent on his college platform. He's the platform. It would have followed him anywhere in the same way it did with LeBron or Luka.

Look at the NBA's biggest stars. College wasn't the star maker for any of them. LeBron. Harden. Russ. Kyrie. Durant. Luka. Whoever. They didn't need the college brand building.

If a kid is the next Kobe, it won't matter. If he's not, college won't help.

I think you are misunderstanding my point. All of those are great players and while in the NBA built substantial fan bases and would have whether they went to college or not. My point is that players like Zion and Durant and Russ all had larger fan bases coming out of of college than they had coming out of high school. This is because MORE people got to see them play in college than got to see them in high school. I suspect had Kobe played college even he would have had a larger fan base than he did prior to entering the NBA. LeBron may be the only that was a well established legend with a huge fan base coming out of high school that college might not have mattered.

 

[BlueSince92]

Entertains like Ha-Ha funny, like Greg Brown is here to amuse the G-league?

 

[TankedCat]

payday tomorrow! just two more months and no more social security tax!

sad

 

[bnewt]

The NBA makes $9 billion dollars a year. Shelling out $5 million a year total for the top high school prospects is pocket change. It’s 100% sustainable because the NBA runs and finances the G League.

If this is true, isn't this in violation of the contract in place with the NBA players...….?
How do they get away with the double standard?

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

But Zion would never have been in the d league. I'm not sure you'll have the interest needed to pull it off. We'll see.

It would've been a pay cut...

 

[Bill Withers]

I wonder what Zion dresses out at right about now weight-wise?

Gotta be at the 300 pound mark, or above.

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

Gotta be at the 300 pound mark, or above.

If his coronavirus routine is similar to mine, he's packed on about 20 lbs. of blubbery belly fat these last 4 weeks...

 

[Baller Cal]

When you have to brag about your income on a message board you’re definitely killing it!

lol

 

[BostonCat2001]

lol

so much winning, i'm tired of winning

 

[Jkwo]

I do understand that argument, and for the 1st year I can see your point. But Stephen Curry went to Davidson. The Greek Freak didn’t go to college. LeBron no college. Kobe no college, etc etc. those are 4 of the most famous and popular players of the last 10 years. So it seems it doesn’t really matter that much in the grand scheme of things.

The other side of this coin - maybe there are some players who are so transcendent that it doesn't matter.

I bet AD would've been fine anywhere, too. All the guys in the conversation are or have the potential to be top 20ish all time players, but OTOH I suspect that bench guys, starters and borderline all stars (which is a more realistic aim for the vast majority of MCD AAs) might have better long-term prospects with a strong college coach who wants to see them succeed on top of winning, rather than a D league coach whose focus is more narrow.

Guess we'll see, though. I don't blame any kid who accepts, and I don't blame the NBA for trying to control their farm system.

 

[JDHoss]

It definitely improved. I'm just saying that I don't think it was dependent on his college platform. He's the platform. It would have followed him anywhere in the same way it did with LeBron or Luka.

Look at the NBA's biggest stars. College wasn't the star maker for any of them. LeBron. Harden. Russ. Kyrie. Durant. Luka. Whoever. They didn't need the college brand building.

If a kid is the next Kobe, it won't matter. If he's not, college won't help.

Exactly...."brand" is just another bullshit buzzword in terms of sports. Your "brand" is only as good as your talent level and performance.

 

[BoulderCat]

The G league is never going to make money, but this is being funded by the NBA, the apparel companies, etc. The money is there. So I do think this will be a viable option for elite recruits who have no interest in even a year of college. They have to attend those pesky classes.

On another topic I’m increasingly concerned we may not see any sports until 2021 unless they find a way to do it without fans. I just can’t see us getting together in large arenas and stadiums. Like a lot of you I follow multiple teams in multiple leagues, college and pro. I miss it! Going to games is a big part of my social life.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

If his coronavirus routine is similar to mine, he's packed on about 20 lbs. of blubbery belly fat these last 4 weeks...

You should walk/ exercise! Even if around your neighborhood.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

Plus the NBA finances the WNBA, which loses money. They can afford to setup a full farm system or even an academy system like soccer in Europe with club teams having different tiers. The money is there.

I still think it’s hilarious they the WNBA hemorrhages money year in and year out (while making zero money) and people get salty about WNBA stars not making what NBA players do lol.

 

[Bill Withers]

If his coronavirus routine is similar to mine, he's packed on about 20 lbs. of blubbery belly fat these last 4 weeks...

Truthfully, if I had to guess, I'd say he's probably closer to 320 than 300, but I didn't want to incur the wrath of the Zion nuthuggers on this board.

 

[Bill Withers]

The other side of this coin - maybe there are some players who are so transcendent that it doesn't matter.

I bet AD would've been fine anywhere, too. All the guys in the conversation are or have the potential to be top 20ish all time players, but OTOH I suspect that bench guys, starters and borderline all stars (which is a more realistic aim for the vast majority of MCD AAs) might have better long-term prospects with a strong college coach who wants to see them succeed on top of winning, rather than a D league coach whose focus is more narrow.

Guess we'll see, though. I don't blame any kid who accepts, and I don't blame the NBA for trying to control their farm system.

I agree. Guys like Scottie Pippen and Ron Harper, Hersey Hawkins, Damien Lillard, they probably don't happen if there's no college ball.

 

[UK-chulo]

I still think it’s hilarious they the WNBA hemorrhages money year in and year out (while making zero money) and people get salty about WNBA stars not making what NBA players do lol.

It is absolutely stupid for any of those players to go on national TV demanding to be paid more when what they are getting is basically charity from the men's league. The market should dictate what you are making. If it were truly based on merit the players would have to pay money to play in the WNBA, since, as you said, they are making no profit.

 

[UK-chulo]

I agree. Guys like Scottie Pippen and Ron Harper, Hersey Hawkins, Damien Lillard, they probably don't happen if there's no college ball.

Or if we mimic that soccer does in Europe and South America. The skill of players overall would improve and you'd have less players slip through the cracks.

 

[Bill Withers]

Or if we mimic that soccer does in Europe and South America. The skill of players overall would improve and you'd have less players slip through the cracks.

I'll admit I'm not really familiar with soccer stuff

 

[Ron Mehico]

The other side of this coin - maybe there are some players who are so transcendent that it doesn't matter.

I bet AD would've been fine anywhere, too. All the guys in the conversation are or have the potential to be top 20ish all time players, but OTOH I suspect that bench guys, starters and borderline all stars (which is a more realistic aim for the vast majority of MCD AAs) might have better long-term prospects with a strong college coach who wants to see them succeed on top of winning, rather than a D league coach whose focus is more narrow.

Guess we'll see, though. I don't blame any kid who accepts, and I don't blame the NBA for trying to control their farm system.

Yup that’s a good point. Just from UK Tayshaun Prince, Keith Bogans, Chuck Hayes, Nazr Mohammed etc etc had great NBA careers that benefitted greatly from 4 years of college to make them great role players. The issue is all these HS kids think they’re gonna be franchise players and the next LeBron so getting them to see that side of the argument is extremely difficult if not impossible.

 

[bthaunert]

If this is true, isn't this in violation of the contract in place with the NBA players...….?
How do they get away with the double standard?

No. Players have always been able to go to the G League straight out of HS.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

It is absolutely stupid for any of those players to go on national TV demanding to be paid more when what they are getting is basically charity from the men's league. The market should dictate what you are making. If it were truly based on merit the players would have to pay money to play in the WNBA, since, as you said, they are making no profit.

Agreed. It’s just not popular. I think it’s great that they have the league and every single one of those players could beat me 1v1 but still...it’s simply a terrible product and viewing experience.

How in the world they think they deserve multi million $ contracts when they don’t even bring that much in revenue in a year bewilders me.

 

[pharm727]

This would be the thing to do as i don't care for the NBA and hardly watch it anymore but you will not get people to do this as most people are all talk.

I stopped watching the NBA when they started hurting colleges, by taking kids after 1 year of school.

 

[Tyblue22]

Once the NBA starts letting high schoolers go directly to the NBA, you will get 4 to 5 a year and then the G-League will get only players who cant make a team. The rest will go to college. This trend will only last a year or 2 that we are on right now.