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Goodwin falls from #17 to #158 on On3

77 on east was Tegra Tshabola. He went to school with afari and marrow recruited him hard but he went to OSU.

Pritchett was also on the East he is #57. Gorney said he played guard some
Well... sounds like the %uckeyes better make sure Tshabola gets some snaps by the end of Year 2.
 
Barrion Brown is a gamer, but getting his first name passed spell check is a bitch!!
 
Pritchett was also on the East he is #57. Gorney said he played guard some
He started at right guard, and looked like a guard: thick and compact, compared to taller OT’s.

He and No. 75, the right tackle, gave up a sack to the Iowa signee that looked small in practices against Goodwin. The announcers said Graves came clean, “he went unblocked, because the action was away from him.”

Wrong. Drew Allar took a straight seven step drop, and Graves and another D-lineman did a stunt: Graves started inside, and stunted around the other defender, but both Pritchett and No. 75 blocked the guy inside, leaving Graves a free shot, like stunts are supposed to do. Likely 75’s responsibility.
 
Pressure!!

Just watched the first half.

If you watch even half-ass, you have to be blown away by Goodwin’s size. He towers over the All-Americans.

Goodwin started at left tackle, and has better footwork than I would have thought for his size. The announcers credited an edge rusher he was blocking with a pressue in the first Q, but Goodwin had shoved him to the very back of the pocket, so I disagree.

I don’t think Goodwin’s man was credited with a tackle in the first half.

No. 72 played in the second Q at left tackle for the East and immediately gave up a QB pressure, but Gunner Stockton, a QB headed to UGA did 4 cuts for a ten yard gain. Later in the same drive 72 gave up a sack, barely getting a hand on the edge rusher before he clobbered Stockton. So then the East just had Stockton run it up the gut for a long TD.

The Bama Pritchett player is on the West team , I think, and I thought from Jmalone’s post, or comment he subbed for Goodwin. But 72 was someone else, and he and No. 77 (left guard) were weak on that left side.

Gunner Stockton, headed to UGA is a star in the making.

Several times when the edge rusher went at Goodwin, they just gave up when he blocked their path, and tried to get in a passing lane instead of trying to go around or through him.

Obviously, a man who is 6’ 8” or 6’ 9” sets a base that is ridiculously wide, and hard to get around.

Nah, Gunner was dropped 135 spots, barely stayed a 4*.
 
Nah, Gunner was dropped 135 spots, barely stayed a 4*.
That’s nuts.

He took the East down the field, primarily because his line c/n block and looked like freakin’ Houdini or Lynn Bowden doing it. He has serious wheels and feel for the game.
 
That’s nuts.

He took the East down the field, primarily because his line c/n block and looked like freakin’ Houdini or Lynn Bowden doing it. He has serious wheels and feel for the game.

It is what it is, he was a 5* in the class's first ranking. Didn't bother with the elite 11 camps, dropped to a 6.0 4*. Broke Trevor Lawrence's state record for TD's, dropped to a 5.9 top 100 player. Had a good all star game dropped to a 5.8 barely stayed in top 200. Missed yardage record by less than 400 yards. Really doesn't make much sense, but Rivals will say he didn't drop, other just rose.

He may not be a 5* may not ever take a snap, but if he had chosen Bama he would be too 15 today, same with Goodwin, I do think his future is at RT because that is the power side for most teams.
 
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I think it bothers many people b/c perception of where the program is helps in recruiting. If the media downplays the quality of the talent in the program, there is concern that it makes it harder to recruit upper echelon players who are needed to get to the upper echelon.

Stoops & Co. have consistently shown the ability to scout and develop talent to play above their ranking, so I think it is less of a concern. With more 9-10 win seasons, recruits will only know that UK as a "used to be" non-football program or "basketball school" ... but under Stoops is a legitimately solid football program.
The perception of where the program is gets conveyed when the Wildcats beat Penn State and Iowa in the Citrus Bowl on national TV and when Wildcats get drafted by the pros. Good players understand those things. All due respect, On3 class rankings are for gullible fans. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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It is what it is, he was a 5* in the class's first ranking. Didn't bother with the elite 11 camps, dropped to a 6.0 4*. Broke Trevor Lawrence's state record for TD's, dropped to a 5.9 top 100 player. Had a good all star game dropped to a 5.8 barely stayed in top 200. Missed yardage record by less than 400 yards. Really doesn't make much sense, but Rivals will say he didn't drop, other just rose.

He may not be a 5* may not ever take a snap, but if he had chosen Bama he would be too 15 today, same with Goodwin, I do think his future is at RT because that is the power side for most teams.
Must agree that I'll be surprised if Goodwin really shows out as an elite LT, but I'm basing that more on assumption than observation. Does he really have those feet? I'm ready to be surprised. Hope I am.
 
Does he really have those feet? I'm ready to be surprised. Hope I am.
Watch the first half.

Frankly, I’d assumed he was too heavy. But he has good punch, a huge base and power.

He reminds me most of Landon Young: he doesn’t look fast, but when he makes his turning step to angle his block, his step is long, and his base wide. He is a good bit bigger than Young, and Young was huge.

These are HS AA’s running into him, and they look small and bounce off pretty much.

If the players they list at 6’ 7” are accurate,, Goodwin is 6’ 10”.
 
This could actually kinda help. If these people are so shortsighted to see that if we keep beating them with "inferior" talent then eventually the "surperior" talent will want to go to the obviously superior coaching.

Keep beating that Josh Allen wasn't on their radar and we made him a top 10 pick enough times every year and eventually the top 10 guys won't want to take the risk.
 
Watch the first half.

Frankly, I’d assumed he was too heavy. But he has good punch, a huge base and power.

He reminds me most of Landon Young: he doesn’t look fast, but when he makes his turning step to angle his block, his step is long, and his base wide. He is a good bit bigger than Young, and Young was huge.

These are HS AA’s running into him, and they look small and bounce off pretty much.

If the players they list at 6’ 7” are accurate,, Goodwin is 6’ 10”.
I've been watching the plays with KG and dude is absolutely massive. It is NOT hard to pick him out on the field. I wonder if it's because he's still a bit heavy but my man needs to really work on his kick step on some of these pass protections when he's setting that edge. Obviously technique is something that he will be drilled once he gets to Lexington. The kid going to Iowa #68 (i believe?) was giving him a bit more of a fit than the other guy KG's side.

I'm halfway through the second quarter, and I've counted 3 missed assignments, 2 of them were run blocks that he just completely whiffed on the dude on front of him. And then missed a pass protection which sent Allar running for dear life. However, when he doesn't miss his assignment, them dudes stop dead in their tracks. And on the run blocks, he's driving them 5 yards and further back. Very intriguing... As of right now, could you throw him at LT, yes... But there might be some growing pains like with Landon.
 
These are HS AA’s running into him, and they look small and bounce off pretty much.
OK, I’ve watched the 3rd and 4th Q’s, and it is more of the same.

At the 5:40 mark of the 3rd, KG just flip tosses a kid ten feet.

At the 4:00 minute mark of the 4th, near their own endzone, Goodwin uses a quick two hand punch knocking the rusher down and into the endzone.

No. 75 then comes in for the last drive, but you know it isn’t KG, as he looks normally sized.

I wish I knew how to cut film, so I could post 15 second clips.

I’m most surprised by Goodwin’s’ upper body strength . . . his punch is hard on an edge rusher!!

He got away with two quick holds that I saw. He got a two handedjersey tug when a rush was to his right, but he grabbed and released very quickly, and his man was not in on the tackle.

Both holds were sneaky fast, and worked.

Like KentuckyTexan alluded to, think Landon Young. KG has a higher ceiling, given his huge frame.
 
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Must agree that I'll be surprised if Goodwin really shows out as an elite LT, but I'm basing that more on assumption than observation. Does he really have those feet? I'm ready to be surprised. Hope I am.

Don't mean it as a knock on him, just that most teams put the monstrous guys on the right side and the smaller more athletic guys on the left. But with the length he has he could do well on the left side.
 
But with the length he has he could do well on the left side.
When he turns and sets that huge base, 6’5” defenders look like 5th graders running into him, and he knocks the hell out of them if they try to go around!!!

I had had concerns . . . his weight . . . his transfer to Southern Indiana HS, etc.

But he looked dominant against the pass rush.

He will play as a freshman.
 
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When he turns and sets that huge base, 6’5” defenders look like 5th graders running into him, and he knocks the hell out of them if they try to go around!!!

I had had concerns . . . his weight . . . his transfer to Southern Indiana HS, etc.

But he looked dominant against the pass rush.

He will play as a freshman.

it's not the UK of 7-8 years ago with the cuppard bare, there are some good OL waiting their turn. Is he an EE, If not he will have some ground to make up. He reminded me of Isiah Wilson, an OT his size who RS and was a 1st round pick after his rs sophomore season. Then went bat shit crazy thinking he was a rapper. Now out of football. I just mean physically reminded me, not the crazy part.
 
it's not the UK of 7-8 years ago with the cuppard bare, there are some good OL waiting their turn. Is he an EE, If not he will have some ground to make up. He reminded me of Isiah Wilson, an OT his size who RS and was a 1st round pick after his rs sophomore season. Then went bat shit crazy thinking he was a rapper. Now out of football. I just mean physically reminded me, not the crazy part.

He did enroll for the spring, so what the coaches do after spring practice in the transfer portal will obviously signal a lot about how confident they are in their OL for 2022.

Hopefully, some guys really take off this off-season, and the OL is good for 2022 and beyond.
 
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Oh, one more play I want to mention. In the second half, a player lined up close to KG, and one angled and to the outside. At the snap, Goodwin reached and two hand punched the guy backwards who was closest, and then turned, set his base and blocked the edge rusher.

If the opposition were Kentucky HS or Southern Indiana HS players, I might discount the film. But these were talented and “big” AA’s he was knocking around.
 
it's not the UK of 7-8 years ago
That’s true, but our board is littered with estimates that our youngsters are mostly headed to the guard and center positions.

We have a third year player from Jefferson County named Young, a former 4 Star who played a few snaps at guard, this season. I had counted him as a future tackle.

Jager Burton, everyone’s All-American recruited in ‘21 from Frederick Douglas in Fayette County is at guard.

Jeremy Flax was thought to be a tackle, and took snaps in our bowl game in ‘21 against NC State at tackle, when an injury occurred. He looked overmatched and got whipped by Iowa’s edge at least a time or two in limited action.

And we lose both starting tackles to the NFL this year.

I betting we use Horsey early, and by mid-season have a youth movement, maybe on both sides, absent a transfer portal windfall.
 
Kinda forgot about him…but I think he projects to interior OL, so I doubt he will be called upon early.
Yeah, but at his size, he could do spot duty at tackle. He might have to, if we don’t find at least one in the portal.
 
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What are the times on the clock?
These are the time stamps on the youtube video that you posted.

The missed pass block is at 17:50 that I saw.

The first run block assignment was at 2:26. He kicks back on a pass block and would have allowed an experienced end a free release inside and almost managed to take out the puller from the other side of the line.

The second one was at 12:28. With him only throwing a hand onto his defender. Appears he was looking for the second level, when it was his man that actually made the tackle on the play.
 
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That’s true, but our board is littered with estimates that our youngsters are mostly headed to the guard and center positions.

We have a third year player from Jefferson County named Young, a former 4 Star who played a few snaps at guard, this season. I had counted him as a future tackle.

Jager Burton, everyone’s All-American recruited in ‘21 from Frederick Douglas in Fayette County is at guard.

Jeremy Flax was thought to be a tackle, and took snaps in our bowl game in ‘21 against NC State at tackle, when an injury occurred. He looked overmatched and got whipped by Iowa’s edge at least a time or two in limited action.

And we lose both starting tackles to the NFL this year.

I betting we use Horsey early, and by mid-season have a youth movement, maybe on both sides, absent a transfer portal windfall.

We have the opposite, we stacked the OT 2-3 cycles in a row and it looks like 2 of them will be playing OG in 22. 1 had won the starting RG spot and broke a bone in his foot on the first series that required surgery, another was our top ol prospect from 21 class. Both OT and C from championship game return so hopefully the OL will take a step forward. Funny thing is the 2 projected starting OT are the 2 smallest.
 
Don't mean it as a knock on him, just that most teams put the monstrous guys on the right side and the smaller more athletic guys on the left. But with the length he has he could do well on the left side.
His reach and width of base are substantial tools, as you and others have noted. His length alone will probably insure he proves an above average LT. If he's ready for "Dancing With The Stars" he WILL prove elite at LT. We'll see. The analyst comments about his feet just assure me he's probably a can't miss elite RT, but elite LT? I'm from "Mizzourah" on this one.
 
Watch the first half.

Frankly, I’d assumed he was too heavy. But he has good punch, a huge base and power.

He reminds me most of Landon Young: he doesn’t look fast, but when he makes his turning step to angle his block, his step is long, and his base wide. He is a good bit bigger than Young, and Young was huge.

These are HS AA’s running into him, and they look small and bounce off pretty much.

If the players they list at 6’ 7” are accurate,, Goodwin is 6’ 10”.
I will watch the All-American game video so I can do something other than just wax cynical. Does seem like he's getting some mixed reviews here, though.
 
I will watch the All-American game video so I can do something other than just wax cynical. Does seem like he's getting some mixed reviews here, though.
Post your impressions.

Watching it is a tad tough, given all the commitment BS they are breaking away for so often.
 
That’s a fine eye on run blocking.

An important stat from the game: the East had 5 or 6 sacks, but none surrendered by Goodwin, playing the blind side!!
Yup, did enough to not give one up. What I can tell you about tackles, you can find right tackles all day. LT's do NOT grow on trees and are incredibly hard to find. Listened to an interview with Wes Jackson with Freddie Maggard and I can assure you Wes was exactly right. Being a left tackle is very lonely. You are by yourself protecting the blind side of your baby (QB) and having to protect him from a guy that is much more athletic than you are. 99.9% of the time, that edge is going to be able to out athlete you. That's why the traits of long arms and quick feet are so important. You've got to be able to just run with him when he does inevitably beat you around the hoop.

From what I can see with Goodwin, and these are all high school kids, so all their techniques suck, especially edge rushing, if there were a couple of kids that had better coaching on the bend and hoops, Goodwin would have been beaten a couple of times during that game. But, it's promising to see him lock up the best talents of his age group. It's encouraging and I have no doubt that Wolf can get him ready.
 
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That’s true, but our board is littered with estimates that our youngsters are mostly headed to the guard and center positions.

We have a third year player from Jefferson County named Young, a former 4 Star who played a few snaps at guard, this season. I had counted him as a future tackle.

Jager Burton, everyone’s All-American recruited in ‘21 from Frederick Douglas in Fayette County is at guard.

Jeremy Flax was thought to be a tackle, and took snaps in our bowl game in ‘21 against NC State at tackle, when an injury occurred. He looked overmatched and got whipped by Iowa’s edge at least a time or two in limited action.

And we lose both starting tackles to the NFL this year.

I betting we use Horsey early, and by mid-season have a youth movement, maybe on both sides, absent a transfer portal windfall.
Don't sleep on Wohlabaugh, he's being overlooked. And down the road Nik Hall will be a really good player. May take awhile to get locked it but talent's there.
 
Tell ‘em we have room for a transfer!!

A couple are looking into it, and a couple of our tampering rivals are helping them. You can guess who. One was hosting one of our players when we played In Indy. He went into portal a week later and committed there. Most likely wasn't going to play for us, but follow the rules or be smart enough not to show you have him on campus a week before he enters portal.
 
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We have the opposite, we stacked the OT 2-3 cycles in a row and it looks like 2 of them will be playing OG in 22. 1 had won the starting RG spot and broke a bone in his foot on the first series that required surgery, another was our top ol prospect from 21 class. Both OT and C from championship game return so hopefully the OL will take a step forward. Funny thing is the 2 projected starting OT are the 2 smallest.


Tell em that they would have a good chance to step in here and grab a starting spot at both LT and RT if they are not terrible.
 
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