Good Season ... Historically Bad Loss

[bballcat4]

Since when has losing to an Elite 8 team been historically bad? Nobody at KY had anything to do with that team being underseeded 53 - 56 spots. This is nothing but drama from little boys unable to cope. Drama , drama, drama….

Sharpe is just more drama. Adults unable to cope with the whims of a kid and the deceit of an adult handler. Drama, drama, drama, drama.

Cal is going to be the coach. Suck it up.

@kybassfan, losing to a 15 seed will ALWAYS be an embarrassing loss. St Pete advancing to Elite 8 doesn't remove any embarrassment. Sure, they may have gotten on a run and played above their #15 seed.

Shape not playing is a very bad look on Cal. I don't blame the kid for going pro. That's the smart move. I do blame someone for him not playing. (I don't know enough to state with fact if it was Cal's decision or family/handler.)

But ... nor do I think the program is in very bad shape. #2 seed this year and projected top 5 team next year is NOT a program in bad shape.

 

[bballcat4]

Yes when you throw in losing to Duke, 1-2 against UT. Finishing 3rd in the SEC. Losing early in the SECT. Then ending with your worst loss in NCAAT history.
We didn’t win anything of relevance!

I would title it. Another bust season with a couple of good wins.

# 2 seed with many projections to make Final 4 is more than a couple good wins.

 

[bballcat4]

Nice effort, but your agenda is visible despite your best efforts to disguise it.

Your question "Why the negativity" is such an insult that it's not worth reading further. I did so by gritting my teeth.

@kentuckycriedfricken ... no agenda on my end. The program can't be #2 seed this year and projected top 5 team next year and logically be considered in bad shape.

Sharpe not playing this year is a very bad deal. I've stated here and in other post that I don't blame the kid if he goes NBA. Top 10 is ALOT of $. However, I do blame someone for him NOT PLAYING this year. I don't know if it was Cal's decision or Sharpe's handler in the family's ear. But ... it should not have happened!

Cal is (and always has been) polarizing. Many Ky fans are tired of the constant spin and salesmanship. He burned ALOT of bridges last year.

If there's an agenda in my comments please let me know what it is. My position is ... "Cal wears people out. Winning is the only way Cal can win and keep fans. His actions have never created fan loyalty."

 

[bballcat4]

To your point regarding the kneeling.....Cal blew an opportunity to clearly explain the legacy of Rupp when he was being questioned by some.

Catering to the woke mob was the wrong way to go. Recall there was a "professor" at UK in the aa studies program calling for buildings to be renamed, etc....including Rupp Arena. Cal didn't step up and defend Rupp

Agree 100%. Kneeling that day caused many fans to be forever unhappy with Cal. Players come and go, but Cal is the one people blame. (Rightfully so.)

I agree that racism exists and will do everything in my power to end it. I will join hands with any group/person trying to end it. Yet, I personally DO NOT believe kneeling helps solve a problem. It always creates a DIFFERENT problem that takes the spotlight off the real problem. The flag represents our current and past military along with the hundreds of thousands of people who have died trying to provide liberty and freedom to others. That's what the flag represents to ME and many others, while I also understand the flag represents something different to other people.

Thinking the "kneeling episode" is not foundational to many complaints about basketball is simply sticking one's head in the sand. But, internet blogs (sports or any other kind) are the absolute worst forum for conversations about culture. Blogs give a platform for extremists on both sides and allows them to scream at each other.

 

[bballcat4]

I don't agree with the OP. If we were Auburn or Tenn sure it was a good season. WE ARE KENTUCKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fair point. For me, a #2 seed is a good year. As I stated, Final 4 is the minimum for me to declare a season as "great."

 

[billCgmx]

Didn't win the regular season title.

Didn't win the conference tournament.

Eliminated in the 1st round by a 15 seed.

Sorry, I can't call this a very good season.

 

[bballcat4]

How many usernames are you going to have?

If referring to me ... this is only username I've ever had! Never understood the reason for multiple user names unless you are Kevin Durant and need some anonymous people to defend you.

 

[Kats meow]

I bet your fun at parties

You’re?

 

[ukcatz12]

Nice effort, but your agenda is visible despite your best efforts to disguise it.

Does everyone who has a different opinion than you need to have an agenda? Can't people just disagree with you without them being a secret member of Cal's family who posts here to defend him?

 

[baller4lifeyall]

If referring to me ... this is only username I've ever had! Never understood the reason for multiple user names unless you are Kevin Durant and need some anonymous people to defend you.

Don’t let them derail your thread. It’s venom or nothing for the SHART gang.

 

[ukBBrulez]

# 2 seed with many projections to make Final 4 is more than a couple good wins.

Projections don’t mean anything if you don’t accomplish them.
The SEC was way overrated as the NCAAT proved and we only managed a 3rd place finish.

So we had good wins over UNC and Kansas. Outside of that we underachieved!

We lost the All time wins lead and the most NCAAT wins lead!

It ended up being a shit season!

 

[ukcatz12]

The flag represents our current and past military along with the hundreds of thousands of people who have died trying to provide liberty and freedom to others.

Not to derail the thread, but why does the flag of the United States of America only represent the military? It's the flag for the entire country. It represents the blue collar factory worker, the teacher, and the nurse just as much as it does the marine. It represents our shared ideals and our natural beauty and the American spirit. The flags of each branch of the military represent those branches. The stars and stripes is for all of us.

 

[Blue63Madison]

It wasn’t just the meltdown in the NCAA tourney. We finished 5-4 in our last 9 games. The wheels were already falling off a few weeks before we crashed. The most worrisome thing to me is the way Cal coaches in tight, late season, end-of-game situations. It’s a pattern that spans his entire coaching career. When you have a half dozen first round draft picks in your rotation, those coaching shortcomings don’t hurt as much. When you don’t have that talent level, coaching becomes a much bigger factor. I just don’t see him suddenly becoming a great X’s and O’s coach this late in his career. He is what he is.

 

[ruppcat]

He said the players came to him with the idea to do it. He ask them to explain to him why. They did and he supported them. They are all over 18 and can do what ever the hell they want to do. If you can’t handle a coach standing with his players then that’s on you. They didn’t make a big deal out of it. Someone posted a picture of it and got all the BJW’s panties in a wad. You don’t get to tell them what to think or how to act. Fans like you need to get over it or move on. And why should Cal take up for Rupp? Did he know him? For all the good stories about him there are bad ones too. I think Rupp was probably a good man that was a product of the time he lived. Joe B knew him. Did he come out and take up for him? I honestly don’t remember

Yeah, they're all over 18 and can do whatever they want....on their own time. Not wearing the jersey.

I'd bet your boss doesn't let you do whatever you on company time while representing the company.

Why should Cal take up for Rupp? Did he know him? DID YOU KNOW HIM????

As a fan I will voice my opinion on whatever I deem fit. SJWs like you are the ones who need to sit down and get over it.

 

[Ed323232]

You’re?

😂😂😂😂😂

 

[Ed323232]

Yeah, they're all over 18 and can do whatever they want....on their own time. Not wearing the jersey.

I'd bet your boss doesn't let you do whatever you on company time while representing the company.

Why should Cal take up for Rupp? Did he know him? DID YOU KNOW HIM????

As a fan I will voice my opinion on whatever I deem fit. SJWs like you are the ones who need to sit down and get over it. You wanna support blm/antifa and their hatred of the US go ahead...it's your Constitutional right....but you're no friend of the US in doing so.

Let me guess your favorite color is orange

 

[kybassfan]

@kybassfan, losing to a 15 seed will ALWAYS be an embarrassing loss. St Pete advancing to Elite 8 doesn't remove any embarrassment. Sure, they may have gotten on a run and played above their #15 seed.

Shape not playing is a very bad look on Cal. I don't blame the kid for going pro. That's the smart move. I do blame someone for him not playing. (I don't know enough to state with fact if it was Cal's decision or family/handler.)

But ... nor do I think the program is in very bad shape. #2 seed this year and projected top 5 team next year is NOT a program in bad shape.

Only if one is stupid enough to obsess over that one aspect of that team. Now, I can understand why you are fixated on it, but they were, in fact, a final 8 team. They were beaten by a team in the championship. They were under seeded by 53 or more positions. All of these are absolute and undeniable facts. Only because it doesn't fit the hater agenda are these facts ignored.

The type person that would ignore these undisputed facts would obsess over a 19 yr old. and a crooked mentor. Again, I understand why you are doing it. What I would point out is that there is a substantial sum of money on the table. !0 million give or take, perhaps. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me you'd put that at risk as a 19 yr old if you had an adult you trusted tell you not to?

Now, I understand the indulgence in weak minded drama over all this. The haters really couldn't help themselves. That said, nobody that isn't into self indulgent drama is going to give this any credibility. Have fun in your drama laced pity mob but don't expect anyone with any actual responsibility to do any more than snicker behind your back.

 

[CatPhight]

How many usernames are you going to have?

He's got three new ones since yesterday...Dubya got shitcanned I guess...

 

[kybassfan]

Projections don’t mean anything if you don’t accomplish them.
The SEC was way overrated as the NCAAT proved and we only managed a 3rd place finish.

So we had good wins over UNC and Kansas. Outside of that we underachieved!

We lost the All time wins lead and the most NCAAT wins lead!

It ended up being a shit season!

Under achieved with three key injuries over multiple games. Agenda much?

 

[bballcat4]

Not to derail the thread, but why does the flag of the United States of America only represent the military? It's the flag for the entire country. It represents the blue collar factory worker, the teacher, and the nurse just as much as it does the marine. It represents our shared ideals and our natural beauty and the American spirit. The flags of each branch of the military represent those branches. The stars and stripes is for all of us.

Agree with your statements about flag representing all of us. I should have said I view kneeling as disrespecting those who have died protecting and trying to provide freedom for everyone. Consequently, I believe kneeling (unintentionally) takes the conversation away from racism and inequality.

 

[bballcat4]

They were beaten by a team in the championship. They were under seeded by 53 or more positions.

Are you saying every low seeded team that has advanced to Elite 8 was under seeded by committee? I can name 6-8 teams over the last decade that was double digit seed that made a run to Elite 8.

obsess over a 19 yr old. and a crooked mentor.

“Obsess”… are you always into this much hyperbole? Cal got used by a player or a “crooked mentor.” Neither is good for Cal.

there is a substantial sum of money on the table. !0 million give or take, perhaps.

I think the best decision for Sharpe is to go to NBA. The issue is not playing while here. Are you suggesting other lottery picks should not have played at their schools this year??? That’s where your logic concludes.

I have “Cal bashers” saying I have an agenda to defend him. I have “Cal lovers” saying I have agenda to discredit him. I am neither … I’m looking at the state of the program (which I think is okay), but pointing out obvious reasons for fan apathy or unhappiness.

 

[CatPhight]

Don’t let them derail your thread. It’s venom or nothing for the SHART gang.

So what happened to Dubya C. Dubya?

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Enough of the excuses

 

[kybassfan]

Are you saying every low seeded team that has advanced to Elite 8 was under seeded by committee? I can name 6-8 teams over the last decade that was double digit seed that made a run to Elite 8.

“Obsess”… are you always into this much hyperbole? Cal got used by a player or a “crooked mentor.” Neither is good for Cal.

I think the best decision for Sharpe is to go to NBA. The issue is not playing while here. Are you suggesting other lottery picks should not have played at their schools this year??? That’s where your logic concludes.

I have “Cal bashers” saying I have an agenda to defend him. I have “Cal lovers” saying I have agenda to discredit him. I am neither … I’m looking at the state of the program (which I think is okay), but pointing out obvious reasons for fan apathy or unhappiness.

Yes, obsess. This board has gone freaking apeshit crazy over Cal and Sharpe. The only reason for this is blind seething hatred of the coach. If you haven’t seen this, your head has been somewhere ….dark.

Seeds are an expected performance in the tournament. St. P would have been expected to perform in the 57 - 61 range. Instead they performed in the 5 - 8 range. YES, they were under seeded. In fact, the most of any team in NCAA history. In fact, we lost to one of the tope 8 teams in the tournament. In fact, it was the best performance of a team og that seed in HISTORY. In fact it took a team that made it to the tournament championship to knock them out.

And no, my logic concludes that a kid, receiving bad advice from someone he trusted chose to protect his money. Yes, I would expect many freshman lottery picks with mid year enrollments to behave exactly the same way. I think we’ve had the great sum of 2 falling into this category.

And who gives a rats ass about fair weather fans. They are on the no sweat list. Things have been better, things worse. This ain’t a game for Nancy boys.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Yes, obsess. This board has gone freaking apeshit crazy over Cal and Sharpe. The only reason for this is blind seething hatred of the coach. If you haven’t seen this, your head has been somewhere ….dark.

Seeds are an expected performance in the tournament. St. P would have been expected to perform in the 57 - 61 range. Instead they performed in the 5 - 8 range. YES, they were under seeded. In fact, the most of any team in NCAA history. In fact, we lost to one of the tope 8 teams in the tournament. In fact, it was the best performance of a team og that seed in HISTORY. In fact it took a team that made it to the tournament championship to knock them out.

And no, my logic concludes that a kid, receiving bad advice from someone he trusted chose to protect his money. Yes, I would expect many freshman lottery picks with mid year enrollments to behave exactly the same way. I think we’ve had the great sum of 2 falling into this category.

And who gives a rats ass about fair weather fans. They are on the no sweat list. Things have been better, things worse. This ain’t a game for Nancy boys.

You are living off his first 5 years. Besides 2017 Cal has sucked after 2015.

 

[Ed323232]

Enough of the excuses

Tell that to your Reds

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Tell that to your Reds

Tell me you’re a troll without telling me your a troll.

 

[SosaUK87]

Cal DID NOT sign 3 top 10 players. Sharpe reclassified so he is no longer in the class. Also, depending on where you look, Livingston isn’t even top 10 unless you use on3’s crazy ass recruiting rankings.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Tell that to your Reds

Brad take off the tutu, you look like a fairy

 

[kybassfan]

You are living off his first 5 years. Besides 2017 Cal has sucked after 2015.

If you call that sucking, you should find another team. You are unworthy of being a Kentucky fan. You’d have stroked out between ‘58 and ’78 and between ’78 and ‘96. This is not a game for entitled fans that can’t cope.

 

[Ed323232]

Tell me you’re a troll without telling me your a troll.

Why are you mad at UK? You should be used to following bad teams.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Why are you mad at UK? You should be used to following bad teams.

My bengals made the super bowl you trogladite

 

[Bungalow Bill]

You are living off his first 5 years. Besides 2017 Cal has sucked after 2015.

Anybody who thinks the elite 8 team in 2019 and SEC champs from 2020 sucked can't be taken seriously. You know nothing about basketball except you hate the UK coach. We didn't suck this year either but screw the facts.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

If you call that sucking, you should find another team. You are unworthy of being a Kentucky fan. You’d have stroked out between ‘58 and ’78 and between ’78 and ‘96. This is not a game for entitled fans that can’t cope.

You know how I know you and Ed are the same person? Because you replied to the same comment of mine with the same insult.

 

[Ed323232]

My bengals made the super bowl you trogladite

Then change your name to Bengals fan. By the way did they win?

 

[NoDef]

I've not bashed Cal. He's a better coach than many on here let on, and you don't get the level he has by not knowing how to coach.

With that being said, we aren't at the level we were 2010-2015. Kids have figured out that you don't have to play at a blue blood to live your NBA dreams. We haven't signed one top 5 recruit here since 2016. Duke has signed 10 during that period. We have quit eating first.

Cal did put together a nice roster this year. It lacked a great PG, but had some nice shooters and a play maker in pre-injury Ty Ty. Injuries made it highly unlikely that we could of made a splash in the tournament. Next year's roster has me concerned though. It is flawed and void of shooters.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Mods, why is Ed/Kl/Bluedog/Kybassfan allowed to troll the posters. Switching back and forth while you ban me and LCC for mouthing off to them?

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Then change your name to Bengals fan. By the way did they win?

Mods ban the troll already

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

Ed only replies to attack others. He’s a troll

 

[Ed323232]

Mods, why is Ed/Kl/Bluedog/Kybassfan allowed to troll the posters. Switching back and forth while you ban me and LCC for mouthing off to them?

Find somewhere where I’ve been nasty to someone. And I would love the mods to post who has multiple accounts.