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China is shoring up its position as the world leader in renewable power and potentially outpacing its own ambitious energy targets, a report has found.
China is set to double its capacity and produce 1,200 gigawatts of energy through wind and solar power by 2025, reaching its 2030 goal five years ahead of time, according to the report by Global Energy Monitor, a San Francisco-based NGO that tracks operating utility-scale wind and solar farms as well as future projects in the country.
It says that as of the first quarter of the year, China’s utility-scale solar capacity has reached 228GW, more than that of the rest of the world combined. The installations are concentrated in the country’s north and north-west provinces, such as Shanxi, Xinjiang and Hebei.
‘Insanely cheap energy’: how solar power continues to shock the world
In addition, the group identified solar farms under construction that could add another 379GW in prospective capacity, triple that of the US and nearly double that of Europe.
China has also made huge strides in wind capacity: its combined onshore and offshore capacity now surpasses 310GW, double its 2017 level and roughly equivalent to the next top seven countries combined. With new projects in Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, Gansu and along coastal areas, China is on course to add another 371GW before 2025, increasing the global wind fleet by nearly half.
“This new data provides unrivalled granularity about China’s jaw-dropping surge in solar and wind capacity,” said Dorothy Mei, a project manager at Global Energy Monitor. “As we closely monitor the implementation of prospective projects, this detailed information becomes indispensable in navigating the country’s energy landscape.”
The findings are in line with previous reports and government data released this year, which predicted that China could easily surpass its target of supplying a third of its power consumption through renewable sources by 2030.
China’s green energy drive is part of its effort to meet dual carbon goals set out in 2020. As the world’s second largest economy, it is the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases and accounts for half of the world’s coal consumption. The Chinese president, Xi Jinping, pledged in 2020 to achieve peak CO2emissions before 2030 and carbon neutrality by 2060.
China is set to double its capacity and produce 1,200 gigawatts of energy through wind and solar power by 2025, reaching its 2030 goal five years ahead of time, according to the report by Global Energy Monitor, a San Francisco-based NGO that tracks operating utility-scale wind and solar farms as well as future projects in the country.
It says that as of the first quarter of the year, China’s utility-scale solar capacity has reached 228GW, more than that of the rest of the world combined. The installations are concentrated in the country’s north and north-west provinces, such as Shanxi, Xinjiang and Hebei.
‘Insanely cheap energy’: how solar power continues to shock the world
In addition, the group identified solar farms under construction that could add another 379GW in prospective capacity, triple that of the US and nearly double that of Europe.
China has also made huge strides in wind capacity: its combined onshore and offshore capacity now surpasses 310GW, double its 2017 level and roughly equivalent to the next top seven countries combined. With new projects in Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, Gansu and along coastal areas, China is on course to add another 371GW before 2025, increasing the global wind fleet by nearly half.
“This new data provides unrivalled granularity about China’s jaw-dropping surge in solar and wind capacity,” said Dorothy Mei, a project manager at Global Energy Monitor. “As we closely monitor the implementation of prospective projects, this detailed information becomes indispensable in navigating the country’s energy landscape.”
The findings are in line with previous reports and government data released this year, which predicted that China could easily surpass its target of supplying a third of its power consumption through renewable sources by 2030.
China’s green energy drive is part of its effort to meet dual carbon goals set out in 2020. As the world’s second largest economy, it is the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases and accounts for half of the world’s coal consumption. The Chinese president, Xi Jinping, pledged in 2020 to achieve peak CO2emissions before 2030 and carbon neutrality by 2060.
China began operating the world’s largest hybrid solar-hydro power plant in the Tibetan plateau on Sunday. Named Kela, the plant can produce 2bn kW hours of electricity annually, equal to the energy consumption of more than 700,000 households.
It is only the first phase of a massive clean energy project in the Yalong River basin. The installation has a 20GW capacity now and is expected to reach about 50GW by 2030.
Despite China’s careful planning, its energy transition is not without its challenges. In recent years, record heatwaves and drought crippled hydropower stations, resulting in power crunches that brought factories to a halt. An outdated electricity grid and inflexibility in transferring energy between regions add to the uncertainty.
The Kela plant is located in the sparsely populated west of the country, where more than three-quarters of coal, wind and solar power is generated. But the vast majority of energy consumption happens in the east. Transporting energy thousands of miles across the country results in inefficiencies.
The way China’s grid is organised can incentivise building coal plants around renewable generators. Much of the new renewable capacity is not connected to the local energy supply and often bundled with coal power to be transmitted to areas of higher demand.
More coal power was approved in the first three months of 2023 than in the whole of 2021.
“China is making strides,” said Martin Weil, a researcher at Global Energy Monitor and an author of the report. “But with coal still holding sway as the dominant power source, the country needs bolder advancements in energy storage and green technologies for a secure energy future.”
It is only the first phase of a massive clean energy project in the Yalong River basin. The installation has a 20GW capacity now and is expected to reach about 50GW by 2030.
Despite China’s careful planning, its energy transition is not without its challenges. In recent years, record heatwaves and drought crippled hydropower stations, resulting in power crunches that brought factories to a halt. An outdated electricity grid and inflexibility in transferring energy between regions add to the uncertainty.
The Kela plant is located in the sparsely populated west of the country, where more than three-quarters of coal, wind and solar power is generated. But the vast majority of energy consumption happens in the east. Transporting energy thousands of miles across the country results in inefficiencies.
The way China’s grid is organised can incentivise building coal plants around renewable generators. Much of the new renewable capacity is not connected to the local energy supply and often bundled with coal power to be transmitted to areas of higher demand.
More coal power was approved in the first three months of 2023 than in the whole of 2021.
“China is making strides,” said Martin Weil, a researcher at Global Energy Monitor and an author of the report. “But with coal still holding sway as the dominant power source, the country needs bolder advancements in energy storage and green technologies for a secure energy future.”
It’s really hard to read any of that when you’re just copy and pasting everything that agrees with you.
Define renewable resources. Is child slave labor renewable? Is mining renewable?
Okay, so, China won’t see a reduction before 2030 IF JINPING’s PREDICTION COMES TRUE (yes, I doubt they will peak before 2030).
Is China still building coal plants? Yes.
If so, how much of an increase in CO2 emissions will we see over the next few years from China?
And, would it be okay for the USA to start building new coal burning plants?
Not "believe". Do the calculations.
Lots of people did the calculations and men split the atom. People did the calculations and invented computers. People did the calculations and we have gene therapy. Repeat the process for going to the moon etc.
I'm reminded of the parable of Lazarus and Dives. Dives looks up from Hell and sees Lazarus comforted by Abraham. "Send Lazarus to tell my brothers." And Abraham says, "They have Moses and the Prophets. If they don't believe them they won't believe even if a man were to rise from the dead. "
There was a conservative physicist Richard Muller who didn't believe in AGW. He thought the temperature record had been cooked. So, he set about recreating the temperature record on his own. The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature. (BEST). He published his record in the literature. People commented on his methods. Muller paid attention and adjusted his methods to the reasonable suggestions and now the BEST record and the other temperature records are basically the same. You can't fit a cigarette paper between them, as the saying goes. He now believes in AGW. So, people can change. We all don't have to be Dives.
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People did the calculations and billions took Covid shots as well… how’d that workout?
For the love of Mike. Inoculated people died at a lesser rate than people who hadn't. You hurt yourself, but you also hurt dumbos. Were I vindictive I'd recommend that you not get the shot.
Inoculated people that had already decided to be unhealthy and smoke and get obese and not take care of themselves maybe, 99.9999% of healthy people under 60-70 did not die from Covid.
People that still believe this are a problem. You still think people should take an ineffective shot that’s not even a vaccine. I didn’t hurt anyone that hadn’t already decided they didn’t give a shit about their own health until they got scared.
I guess it’s my fault they ate cheesecake and smoked cigs on their couch for 30 years as well?
Man, idgaf to be honest. If Covid killed you we didn’t need you anyway apparently.
I will never get a Covid shot and you probably wish you didn’t too besides your ability to virtue signal as I’m POSITIVE you did on social by posting memes and your vax card.
Funny...wife went to dermatologist yesterday for some skin cancers removed and the Dr said he and his wife just got back from Africa. Winter time and Temps in the low 20's.
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Guarantee you one thing...with issues I've had and I had it to do over again. They could take that shot(s) and shove it.
Wife smokes 1 1/2 pks a day, copd, asmatic no shot . We got covid same time and she had less symptoms than I did.
Yes.....circa 1999.
China had the incredible foresight to buy all the mines and sources of materials crucial to the eventual push for using these materials for "renewable" energy.
Either they had prophetic level vision or....they created the need via political capital and influence.
1/3 of the country is over 50. The obese account for 30% of the country. There's overlap between the obese and those with diabetes (31%) and then there's around 8% with auto-immune disorders. And those are just 4 off the top of my head. If the purpose of your stat was to trivialize the numbers, it's a losing play.
Some people didn't die from Bubonic Plague.
Walk me through why people should resent the efforts to keep them from dying.
That's a weird way of putting it. James Hansen testified about AGW before Congress in 1988. So, you could say the US led the world in pig-ignorant reluctance to face reality.
He said we need *insert list of items that china conveniently owns* or he said we need to invest in renewable? Because I'm pretty sure it's the latter
In terms of a climate concern, they won well before Trump was ever on the ballot. Decades ago they just happened to buy or lease the rights to everything we now "need". Coincidence for sure
Let me say this more plainly, I don’t give a shit.
If you smoke regularly and are obese you obviously haven’t given a shit about your health for decades but now you want me to take some unproven shot that could hurt my health I’ve been meticulous about for decades to help save you?
Well Frances, I don’t give a shit about you. Just don’t, you never did, why should I now?
Not taking that stupid shot that didn’t do anything.
Global warming must be skipping over Cincinnati, OH. Thank you Governor DeWine! You are doing a fantastic job of controlling the thermostat. Could you maybe just set it between 70-75 every day? TIA on that.
Welcome to the world where the only choices are often between bad and worse.
None of the climate change alarmist BS is about saving the planet.
The University of California system pledged to go carbon neutral by 2025. They are considered a leader amongst the big university school systems on the climate front and they are a Climate Registry Gold Status member. Whatever that stupid BS is…I’m sure it holds weight in the climate change alarmism community.
Being a member of the UC system, UCLA has duly pledged to go carbon neutral by 2025. Yet their own campus newspaper published a report last year stating that they won’t be carbon neutral until 2068.
https://stack.dailybruin.com/2022/07/12/carbon-neutrality/
That 2068 estimate is only Scope 1 & 2 emissions. It doesn’t even count Scope 3 emissions which includes athletic team travel. UCLA recently joined the Big10. The football team, men’s basketball team & women’s basketball team all fly private to away games. This is where they will be flying to now…
This is where they used to travel to play games…
But they have an electric fleet on campus and they bought some carbon offset credits so they are saving the planet!!!
I call bullshite.
USC, Oregon & Washington all made the same 2025 carbon neutral pledge as UCLA. They are all going to the Big 10 as well. But all of those new increased Scope 3 emissions they will be emitting (that will dwarf their offsets)…don’t look at those. Quick!!! Look over there instead…at their shiny Gold Status medallion from the climate registry…
The University of California system pledged to go carbon neutral by 2025. They are considered a leader amongst the big university school systems on the climate front and they are a Climate Registry Gold Status member. Whatever that stupid BS is…I’m sure it holds weight in the climate change alarmism community.
Being a member of the UC system, UCLA has duly pledged to go carbon neutral by 2025. Yet their own campus newspaper published a report last year stating that they won’t be carbon neutral until 2068.
https://stack.dailybruin.com/2022/07/12/carbon-neutrality/
That 2068 estimate is only Scope 1 & 2 emissions. It doesn’t even count Scope 3 emissions which includes athletic team travel. UCLA recently joined the Big10. The football team, men’s basketball team & women’s basketball team all fly private to away games. This is where they will be flying to now…
This is where they used to travel to play games…
But they have an electric fleet on campus and they bought some carbon offset credits so they are saving the planet!!!
I call bullshite.
USC, Oregon & Washington all made the same 2025 carbon neutral pledge as UCLA. They are all going to the Big 10 as well. But all of those new increased Scope 3 emissions they will be emitting (that will dwarf their offsets)…don’t look at those. Quick!!! Look over there instead…at their shiny Gold Status medallion from the climate registry…
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True science is never "finished" as the climate alarmists would tell us. Computers, gene therapy and even atomic level research continues. Climate scientists concern me because they all want to get paid and globalists are all to eager to advance their own nefarious agendas. Scientists aren't a group of holy men who shave their heads and chant every morning and night...well, OK maybe they do, I honestly don't know...but, my point is they are not above being swayed by good old Ben, George and Lincoln.
Look, place your faith in climate change all you want but, I remember the next Ice Age mantra of the 70's and the rising ocean level alarms of the 80's and 90's. Yet, the Obama's and their pals...supposedly all-in on global warming...continue to buy property right on the beaches of the world. It doesn't pass the smell test. I'd much prefer to believe the founder of The Weather Channel over all the Al Gore cultists on the planet.
Are we to really believe the Earth has always been a constant temperature down through the eons? Nonsense. How did all those worldwide climate changes occur before humans invented the wheel? Dino farts mayhaps?
It’s official: Scientists confirm July was the hottest month ever recorded
PUBLISHED TUE, AUG 8 20234:03 AM EDTUPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
Sam Meredith@SMEREDITH19
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KEY POINTS
- Global air and ocean temperatures soared to a record high in July, according to the EU’s climate change service Copernicus.
- “These records have dire consequences for both people and the planet exposed to ever more frequent and intense extreme events,” said Samantha Burgess, deputy director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service.
- C3S and the U.N.’s World Meteorological Organization recently recognized the first three weeks of July as hottest three-week period on record.
The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) said Tuesday that the global average surface air temperature in July was confirmed to be the highest on record for any month.
July was found to be a whopping 1.5 degrees Celsius warmer than the average for the 1850-1900 period and 0.33 degrees Celsius warmer than the previous warmest month of July 2019.
Meanwhile, global average sea surface temperatures continued to rise in July, the EU’s climate monitor said, after a long period of unusually high temperaturesstretching back to April. For the month as a whole, the planet’s average sea surface temperature was 0.51 degrees Celsius above the 1991 to 2020 average.
The data, which is collated from the measurement of satellites, ships, aircraft and weather stations around the world, follows a flurry of record-breaking heat waves across multiple regions.
Vast parts of Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and Asia have suffered from scorching heat in recent weeks, while South American countries have been gripped by record-breaking temperaturesin the middle of winter.
“These records have dire consequences for both people and the planet exposed to ever more frequent and intense extreme events,” Samantha Burgess, deputy director of C3S, said in a statement.
“Even if this is only temporary, it shows the urgency for ambitious efforts to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions, which are the main driver behind these records,” she added.
‘Just the beginning’C3S said 2023 was the third-hottest on record in the year to date at 0.43 degrees Celsius above the recent average.
The gap between this year and 2016 — the hottest year on record — is expected to narrow in the coming months. That’s because the latter months of 2016 were relatively cool, C3S said, while the remainder of 2023 is poised to be comparatively warm as the current El Niño event develops.
Wildfires raging across Algeria during a blistering heat wave killed more than 30 people and forced mass evacuations, the government said.
Fethi Belaid | Afp | Getty Images
El Niño is a naturally occurring climate pattern that contributes to higher temperatures across the globe. The U.N. weather agency declared the onset of El Niño on July 4, warning its return could pave the way for extreme weather conditions.
Speaking at the U.N. headquarters in New York City late last month, Secretary-General António Guterres warned that “the era of global boiling” has arrived.
“For scientists, it is unequivocal — humans are to blame,” Guterres said on July 27. “All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings. The only surprise is the speed of the change. Climate change is here. It is terrifying, and it is just the beginning.”
It’s official: Scientists confirm July was the hottest month ever recorded
PUBLISHED TUE, AUG 8 20234:03 AM EDTUPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
Sam Meredith@SMEREDITH19
WATCH LIVE
KEY POINTS
Global air and ocean temperatures soared to a record high in July, according to the EU’s climate change service Copernicus, deepening concern among climate scientists at a time when a spate of heat records suggest the planet has entered uncharted territory.
- Global air and ocean temperatures soared to a record high in July, according to the EU’s climate change service Copernicus.
- “These records have dire consequences for both people and the planet exposed to ever more frequent and intense extreme events,” said Samantha Burgess, deputy director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service.
- C3S and the U.N.’s World Meteorological Organization recently recognized the first three weeks of July as hottest three-week period on record.
The EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) said Tuesday that the global average surface air temperature in July was confirmed to be the highest on record for any month.
July was found to be a whopping 1.5 degrees Celsius warmer than the average for the 1850-1900 period and 0.33 degrees Celsius warmer than the previous warmest month of July 2019.
Meanwhile, global average sea surface temperatures continued to rise in July, the EU’s climate monitor said, after a long period of unusually high temperaturesstretching back to April. For the month as a whole, the planet’s average sea surface temperature was 0.51 degrees Celsius above the 1991 to 2020 average.
The data, which is collated from the measurement of satellites, ships, aircraft and weather stations around the world, follows a flurry of record-breaking heat waves across multiple regions.
Vast parts of Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and Asia have suffered from scorching heat in recent weeks, while South American countries have been gripped by record-breaking temperaturesin the middle of winter.
“These records have dire consequences for both people and the planet exposed to ever more frequent and intense extreme events,” Samantha Burgess, deputy director of C3S, said in a statement.
“Even if this is only temporary, it shows the urgency for ambitious efforts to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions, which are the main driver behind these records,” she added.
‘Just the beginning’
C3S said 2023 was the third-hottest on record in the year to date at 0.43 degrees Celsius above the recent average.
The gap between this year and 2016 — the hottest year on record — is expected to narrow in the coming months. That’s because the latter months of 2016 were relatively cool, C3S said, while the remainder of 2023 is poised to be comparatively warm as the current El Niño event develops.
Wildfires raging across Algeria during a blistering heat wave killed more than 30 people and forced mass evacuations, the government said.
Fethi Belaid | Afp | Getty Images
El Niño is a naturally occurring climate pattern that contributes to higher temperatures across the globe. The U.N. weather agency declared the onset of El Niño on July 4, warning its return could pave the way for extreme weather conditions.
Speaking at the U.N. headquarters in New York City late last month, Secretary-General António Guterres warned that “the era of global boiling” has arrived.
“For scientists, it is unequivocal — humans are to blame,” Guterres said on July 27. “All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings. The only surprise is the speed of the change. Climate change is here. It is terrifying, and it is just the beginning.”
I think we need more pollution over the oceans to better shield the water from the sun and prevent warming…
On another note, you are a complete psycho on this stuff. Far more important things to worry about in life.
Nerd, this is a climate thread and we just had the warmest JULY on record. It’s significant. Piss off to a pharma or surgery thread.
Man, who would have guessed the Copernicus Climate Change Service would come up with results that fall directly in line with the climate change industry narrative.
I just enjoy people like you who get so over the top worked up about this stuff. I’m for a clean planet and do my part, but the factors the affect our climate are so over the top complex that man will never come remotely close to fully understanding it.
Dumbing it down to just man’s effect is beyond ridiculous. The climate will continue to change…forever…due to factors we can never even dream of controlling.
One day, this planet will be uninhabitable and we won’t have a say in the matter. Hopefully that’s billions of years from now as things like that don’t move quickly relative to a man’s life span, but it is a certainty to happen.
Best to relax a bit, enjoy life and do what you can. Screaming and crying on a message board is pretty ridiculous. I’m well aware you won’t change, because you climate alarmists are over the top about this, but I’ll continue enjoying the read and laughing.
🤣🤣🤣 there are plenty of scientists that know this. However you climate freaks only ask them one thing in these surveys “does man have an impact on climate”, to which they correctly answer yes. Then you idiots turn around and say “see!!! we are responsible for all climate change!!!”
The climate has been changing since the birth of this planet and EVERY scientist on this planet acknowledges that as it’s impossible not to.
False, they have categorized deaths by the secondary reason and not root cause. A stroke caused by a blood clot likely due to the vaccine is considered a stroke. The opposite happened during COVID, if you had a heart attack but had COVID it was considered a COVID death.
Wife’s 95 year old g’ma died at the nursing home after being locked in her room for a year. Cause of death…covid.
We were furious and called the doctor who put that on her certificate and asked why as she never had covid. His answer was “I had to put something”.
Of course old age or cardiac arrest weren’t good enough, as the payout for covid was too good to pass up.
Inform us idiots and freaks with the names of scientists who deny climate change is caused by humans.
Debating an idiot is difficult. I didn’t say there are scientists that deny humans impact climate. I said there are many many scientists that acknowledge humans are just one of many factors to do so.
It’s pure hubris and lunacy to think humans are the driving force of climate and can control it.
You climate freaks are far worse than religious people that you so despise.
There are generic "excess deaths" in the stats in addition to COVID deaths. Unless there was a mystery disease around, the reasonable thing to attribute most of them to is COVID.
