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Global Climate Changes

You should try exercising critical thought and not just relying on others to form your opinion for you.
So, if I start to think critically, I can over come trillions of research hours spent by the smartest scientists in the world?
 
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Documented hurricanes hitting Hawaii back into the 1800's. Island drought is not new either. Not exactly sure what you refer to but again, you are completely wrong in your assumption.
The power company started the fire.
Humans run the power company

Henceforth, humans cause the fire and the fire changed the climate.
 
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They're probably well funded scientists, too.

I love the idea that scientists are greedy bastards who can't be trusted but people who have carbon to haul up and sell are pure as the driven snow.

Meanwhile, back in the 70s oil company scientists confirmed AGW.
 
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I love the idea that scientists are greedy bastards who can't be trusted but people who have carbon to haul up and sell are pure as the driven snow.

Meanwhile, back in the 70s oil company scientists confirmed AGW.


You either have a great imagination, very poor reading comprehension, or both, if you think anyone has that idea.
 
Like I told another poster on this forum.


The United States is the least of the industrialized world's problems.

How about this: Everyone else catches up to us, with respect to emissions etc. and once they do, we can re-visit the issue. Until then, let's just put a pin in it.

Does that sound fair?
Can someone please post pictures of John Kerry's 14 million dollar 15 Acre OCEAN FRONT property on Martha's Vinyard and his private jet and then tell me he, the Obamas , Bidens and others aren't full of SugarHoneyIceTea!!! It's a damn hoax and all about centralized power.
 
Global warming IS real. It's pretty clear that it is. What isn't clear is; is it even actually BAD, how much humans have contributed to it, is there any REAL way of handling it in a rational manner.
I'm positive about this though: If you're relying on the government to fix something of that magnitude, then you're doing it wrong. They don't have a great track record. LOL
 
Can someone please post pictures of John Kerry's 14 million dollar 15 Acre OCEAN FRONT property on Martha's Vinyard and his private jet and then tell me he, the Obamas , Bidens and others aren't full of SugarHoneyIceTea!!! It's a damn hoax and all about centralized power.
You think they are the only rich people in the world?

The CEO of Shell and Exxon have really nice Jets and exotic vacation homes.
 
Of all the anti climate change arguments being made in this thread, the one I have the hardest time getting my head around is "It will destroy our economy"

Right now, Kentucky has just announced a six billion dollar electric battery plant in Hardin County, and a two billion dollar plant in Bowling Green, I have clients who have signed leases for their land paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to build solar farms, Tesla is one of the world's most valuable companies. Not seeing a reign of destruction here.

Further, we built the railroads in the 1800s transforming this country, then built airports in the 20th century that transformed the country, then invested untold billions in building the interstates that created another incredible transformation.

But slowly and methodically phasing out fossil fuels and transitioning to renewable energy (and I would include nuclear in this equation) is going to completely destroy economic life in America? Not buying it. That is just fear mongering from the far right.

Transition can't be overnight, that is equally crazy talk from the far left extremists, fossil fuels have to be a part of the equation for the rest of my lifetime at least, maybe for another century, who knows.
I didn’t read all the responses and if this is redundant I apologize, but the Carnegie’s and Vanderbilts, etc and all those people basically built America using slave labor like the countries were competing with NOW and those countries don’t have unions and pensions etc.

It’s literally impossible to compete with them and save the environment at the same time unless they do the same. If you want the US to do it alone, cool but you will push the issue back 10-40 years. Congrats, slow clap. It does nothing unless everyone does.

How many times does anyone need to say this, “Get everyone on board and we’ll all be down for it. If you just want the US to do it alone you will not persuade anyone.”
 
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You think they are the only rich people in the world?

The CEO of Shell and Exxon have really nice Jets and exotic vacation homes.
So are they climate extremist crying that the oceans are about to flood the earth? All the names I mentioned are just power hungry zealots!!! Seen Greta lately.
 
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Mining cobalt produces hazardous tailings and slags that can leach into the environment, and studies have found high exposure in nearby communities, especially among children, to cobalt and other metals.Jun 23, 2023
 
Mining cobalt produces hazardous tailings and slags that can leach into the environment, and studies have found high exposure in nearby communities, especially among children, to cobalt and other metals.Jun 23, 2023


And there’s the whole child slave labor issue.

But like diamonds, green energy is a vanity project for the global warming “elite”. Sure there are lab grown diamond alternatives, but the real value is knowing a small African child clawed it from a mine with his bleeding fingers.
 
So are they climate extremist crying that the oceans are about to flood the earth? All the names I mentioned are just power hungry zealots!!! Seen Greta lately.
Exxon knows burning carbon traps heat over the earth, thus causing warming. They have as many politicians in their pockets as they can manage for more government leeway and subsidies. Seen friends of coal lately?
 
Global warming IS real. It's pretty clear that it is. What isn't clear is; is it even actually BAD, how much humans have contributed to it, is there any REAL way of handling it in a rational manner.
I'm positive about this though: If you're relying on the government to fix something of that magnitude, then you're doing it wrong. They don't have a great track record. LOL
It's real, the problem is they've turned it into a cult. It meets every definition of a religion. Not every weather event is climate change. But govt officials claim this to A. Cover for their incompetence...as we've seen in Hawaii and California wildfires. B. For their investments in big solar and big wind.

Followers are def a religion tho. Notice if you disagree with any policy bc you question its effectiveness, they straight resort to claiming you don't believe science, or if you disagree that a weather event is out of the ordinary, they use anecdotal claims....bc you tested their Dogma. Is Jesus the son of God, is Muhammed a prophet, is Huricane climate change. All the same.
 
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Most people who deny that human activity is warming the planet just dismiss a massive body of scientific evidence as a big hoax.

But there’s a more sophisticated set of climate “skeptics” who make arguments that, at least to the lay ear, sound like they’re grounded in scientific evidence. And because most of us lack the background to evaluate their claims, they can muddy the waters around an issue that’s been settled in the scientific community.


 
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"...settled in the scientific community..."

That, as history has repeatedly demonstrated; means almost nothing. If anything, it should raise a red flag.

Science is quite literally BUILT on skepticism. Setting aside the consensus and group think has led to the most impactful discoveries in all of humankind.
 
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