Givony on Sheppard
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Wasnt he a end of the 1st round projection? I dont remember him near the lottery (top 14).
Cal has never once pushed any player out.
NIL isn't bad, but it can't beat the lottery money.
Here's how much money 2023 NBA Draft picks will make
Victor Wembanyama projects to have a first-year salary in the eight figures.
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@Son_Of_Saul see this is why I highly doubt he even stays 2 years. It’s already starting.
Yes he has, it’s the reason we have DJ Wagner right now.
Even he can’t put lipstick on how their recruits fair in the league more often than not. They have Ingram, Tatum, and Zion. Zion may be out of the league in five years if he can’t stay off the pop tarts.
Whether UK wins number nine or not I think he’s back next year and maybe beyond. I think whether he comes back for year four depends on whether he can get his degree in three years.
Wagner at Memphis wanted to come back. Cal said no. Wagner developed internal issues after that. It was the turning point in cementing the "player's first" policy.
He won’t need it, if he gets guaranteed a lottery position he’s gone. He’s going to go do the workouts and get feedback at the very least.
I’m glad everyone here really thinks he values Kentucky that much but his dream is to plays here and then be a pro. He’s playing here now, and I highly doubt he’s going to put his dream of being a first round pick on hold for 2 more years.
Not a chance.
Don't get caught up in the "legacy" thing or the "Kentucky boy".
His parents wanted to play pro ball just as much as John Wall or Rhyne Howard.
Just didn't work out for them.
Players and parents don't think like fans.
I totally disagree about Reed.
His Ma/Pa are having the time of their life watching Reed soar high.
They are NOT driven by $$. They are still raising their son.
And they know going pro at 19 is not conducive to good character.
I think Reed is cut out of that cloth. He's living his Childhood dream.
The NBA will still be there next year.
2 years. I believe that all the way.
His Ma/Pa are having the time of their life watching Reed soar high.
They are NOT driven by $$. They are still raising their son.
And they know going pro at 19 is not conducive to good character.
I think Reed is cut out of that cloth. He's living his Childhood dream.
The NBA will still be there next year.
2 years. I believe that all the way.
Just curious, are you a former player or are you a parent of a player? If not, how do you know what their thought process is?
I'm glad you know their thoughts. We can turn to you from now on whenever we want the inside information on what the Sheppard family is thinking, especially when Reed has a $2+ million NIL thrown in his face next year with a chance to come back and win a title at Kentucky.
Bet you were certain Filipowski was gone from Duke last year, eh?Go ahead and tell me it's a different situation, being that both guys are projected top 15.
He doesn't have a clue. He's just another cynic who thinks it's a foregone conclusion that any of our guys are gone at the first sign of NBA daylight.
Again don't think for a minute that Jeff didn't want to be in the Green room on draft night in '98.
Going to the NBA is in no way shape ,form, or fashion a sign of bad character or being driven by money.
When you are that talented, you want to play on the highest level possible.
Yall are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Would love for Reed to be here for two years. But I doubt it. If he’s gonna be a lottery pick or top 10 hes gone
How much was Herro's rookie contract worth?
How much is he making now?
You know NBA players have NIL also.
Look at Filopowski now though, he should be a warning. He should have taken the money. Now he’s being exposed and won’t go lottery anymore.
They're probably regretting that decision now.
He's not winning a title and won't improve his draft position.
I hope I’m wrong FWIW. I’d love for Reed to stay 4 years and break records, and lead us to 2 titles and be the best Kentucky born player of all time here. I just don’t see how he stays especially with Cal here. He will definitely tell him to go to the draft rated that high. You’re talking anywhere from 19 million to 55 million dollars over 4 years. That’s a ton of NIL, not to mention he can get endorsements with that contract money.
Not a cynic at all but just admit you don't give a damn about his NBA career.
His parents do.
It will definitely be a family decision at the end of year provided his stock rises or stays where it is.
If you're Jeff and Stacy who do take advice from?
Cal will definitely be involved.
To me you can't go to your neighbors or friends for advice.
You have to talk to other parents who have been in the exact same situation and you have to talk to people involved in the business side of basketball.
Of course UK fans are gonna say stay 4 years lol.
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Two things I wasn't ever concerned about with Reed. His shooting and his passing. I had no idea he'd be that good of a defender. I also didn't know he'd be that poised. All of our freshmen seem to be poised.
Someone help me remember. When Reed goes pro after this year, Cal will get blamed for pushing him out of the door, instead of getting credit for his development and putting him in positions to succeed.
I'll gladly admit that, but you don't have a clue either. Stop acting like you're glued to the families mindsets. You don't have any idea about what they're thinking.
No he hasn’t. That’s just CHC speak with no facts to back it up.
And I am very thankful we have DJ Wagner right now.
How would Jeff ever live with himself if he allowed his son to come back and make two to three million a year in NIL money before leaving for an even higher draft spot? He probably wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing that he allowed his son to enhance his draft value while making millions at Kentucky. The horror of it all!
You may know better than I do whether the endorsement opportunities would be better or worse for him at Kentucky vs. the league.
I would think some in state businesses would prefer to pay a current player, and even some national businesses might like to use a Kentucky Wildcat All American vs. someone riding the bench in Charlotte.
Starting point guard for the Celtics or Lakers might be a different story.
I think his parents will have more influence than Cal. And given their background and standing, I think he will just provide the info he gets from sources and defer to Jeff and Stacy to advise.
All of these posters are sure he's gone, and yet none of them want to bet me their posting rights?
Also, I'm not betting against anyone who has low post counts or just joined (ala Leadbelly accounts). You have to be a poster who matters, and some of you are just puppet trash accounts.
Also, I'm not betting against anyone who has low post counts or just joined (ala Leadbelly accounts). You have to be a poster who matters, and some of you are just puppet trash accounts.
I’d bet you Saul, except can’t really bet against what I agree with
I think Reed wants to win a title before leaving..he’s doing to want to accomplish what his Dad did
Until then, all: enjoy the guy while we have him
How would Jeff live with himself if, God forbid, something were to happen to Reed causing him to never be able to play again? NIL doesn’t last forever. I think your emotions are clouding your reasoning.
I don’t care if he is ranked a 1 star. Give me a couple Reed a year for eternity. His basketball iq is off the charts. I enjoy watching athleticism that Cal likes to recruit by man do I miss watching some smart basketball iq players.
While I don’t disagree, I’m guessing he doesn’t need the money that some do. Considering his blood line, as long as he doesn’t steal from a Apple Store I’m guessing he will always be taken care of in Ky
If that's the logic, Reed should shut it down immediately; if, as you're asserting, he's already a lottery pick. Also, what injury would permanently disable a player from every going pro? Can you list the players that that's happened to? Let's see the list of names of guys who have suffered from these career debilitating injuries when they were lottery picks. I bet you could stay up all night and struggle to come up with two names.
What if Reed got hurt in February or March of this year? Your logic needs to be consistent and you should therefore support Reed shutting it down right now.
Do you support Reed shutting it down right now?
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