The current culture in the program is a real concern and I think it is legit to ask Stoops how much his attempt to leave last year played a roll in that culture shift. Is is a coincidence that he flirted with A&M and so many players are bolting this year? Did his A&M tryst impact our season? There are many factors. Some people who have coached with him say he was way too comfortable at UK. That should not be the case now.
Gilmore gone
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Well stated and covers some of the concerns I have/had. The culture seems obviously to be off, kind of confirmed by some past players opinions. The too comfortable comment also makes sense, you have a position group make the same errors for multiple seasons now and it makes you wonder why Stoops isn't addressing the problem. Elliot, Brumbaugh, those guys wren't getting it done, even though they were friends, Stoops stilled moved on. Recently, maybe not as much.
That doesn't really tell the story. From 1974 until 1987, we played 11 games and only 6 SEC games. So we controlled 5 of the 11 games we played. In general it wasn't an overly difficult non-conference schedule and we still struggled to win more games than we lost. Even 1966 and before, we played 10 games and 6 SEC games and struggled to have a winning record. Through most years we have a played a higher percentage of non-conference games than we do today and weren't good enough to beat anyone. Any way you want to look at it, Stoops has been better than any coach we have had aside from Bear. The bottom line is we were a bottom feeding program and we haven't been under Stoops. The idea that our expectations should be that the program should consistently win 8 - 10 games a year does not recognize where we came from and what we have been as a program. I hope I'm wrong, but it's unlikely that in a modern era of NIL we will rise any further that we have been under Stoops. Without some changes to pay for play laws, we are nothing but a small market team.
Fran Curci was pretty good, too (minus the NCAA punishment).
Copium?
Freshman wide receiver Hardley Gilmore, who entered the transfer portal over the weekend and reportedly will transfer to Nebraska, was charged on Dec. 7 with misdemeanor assault after allegedly punching someone in the face at a storage unit in downtown Lexington.
Jon Hale reported today that Gilmore was arrested in December and charged with misdemeanor assault after allegedly punching someone in the face. That was his first legal strike, but not his first with the Kentucky coaching staff. He was billed as a player to build around, and that’s the kind of behavior that builds a road to Pooptown.
NIL in basketball is about 13 guys. Maybe 15.
NIL in football is about 6 times as much.
NIL in football is about 6 times as much.
I read that KSR column. No sources were cited for any problems beyond the misdemeanor. It was also reported that Gilmore was being courted back by the staff. Not sure if that was true or not. Shorts was on that staff. So, if Key and Gilmore were problems, why would he want them at Nebraska.
The KSR story really lacks credibility, IMO.
I think it’s safe to say Gilmore wasn’t a model student athlete or an appreciated teammate.
Every player is a hero when they're here, villain when they leave. Whatever the situations with these guys are they wanted gone. Leaves a sour taste in the mouth....but that's kind of college football these days.
Nor do I agree with yours. I should have been more precise - I don't specifically believe that football is a distraction - I am simply stating the obvious. Pose this question, if you had to choose one either bball or football to succeed at UK, which would it be? Which would the masses choose? Which would administration choose? While it took a historic mass exodus of fan$ in 2012 for the admin to pay attention to football, history has delivered the verdict. I don't prefer bball - in fact, I don't follow it unless I am doing Old Red's contests.
Yes, I agree that football is the $$$maker for any school. The "real sport" comment is not my perspective, but the overall perspective that has led to the historic mindset that bball is greater than football. So yes, while a healthy football program will rise the tide for the other UK sports, it doesn't necessarily instill a "we will do what it takes to compete and win in football". It is merely a flippant comment to pose football support. Question - why doesn't UK do what other $ec schools to to succeed, especially in this nil/tp nonsense era? All I hear and read is that nil will benefit bball immensely over football. I have heard this comment multiple times during the few times I tuned into KSR. Specifically, Matt Jones makes that statement. If others here can dispute, please let me know I was mistaken. And, just because UK football is starting well behind bball in the nil/tp process, does it mean the statement can be made that bball will always have the $$$ to compete versus the football program?
I think my time of investing and joining together has closed as I used to be at every game and invest countless hours into gamedays and weekends - not any more. While I don't fault your perspective or others for wanting other UK teams to succeed, my vested interest has always been football and this season was simply the last kick in the nuts.
Again, glad you are recovering and I hope your 2025 is better than 2024!
This is a big part of it. Hell even punters now demand and get nil. They don't even get a scholarship but get nil!
Its insane.
All these guys going to Nebraska. They are in for a rude awakening and a culture shock. Rick Grimes may say "I hear Nebraskas nice" but I disagree.
