Friend said he doubts UK ever wins another title
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OP made a bad post. A TERRIBLE post. 99% of his posts lack any interesting content at all and he just lucks into the 1% that isn’t a waste of space.
Oh shit are we supposed to post stupid things our friends think?
Sit down and gather round, boys!
Sit down and gather round, boys!
If we don't it's from not managing the environment well or making good decisions. Looking at this list of final four teams the last two seasons and drawing the conclusion we can't compete is a real stretch. UConn, NC State, Bama, Miami, FAU, San Diego State, Purdue. Things will continue to evolve but monetarily there is nowhere else you'd rather be than SEC/BIG 10
I see Rafters is living up to its reputation.
First, my friend lives and dies with UKBB and has for almost 70 years now.
Second, my own personal opinion is it's too soon to state something that definitive.
Third, if this year doesn't convince you that the other SEC schools are serious about basketball and will dedicate a lot of resources to being excellent, you've got your royal blue blinders on.
Fourth, we all know, in football, UK is not generally capable of outbidding TX, UT, AL, GA, UF, etc al. If #3 above is true, why would basketball be any different?
Not sure why so many of you were triggered by a fairly simple question regarding the longer term prospects for programs that may not be able to keep up financially in this new NIL Era. But, again, Rafters is gonna Rafter. As you were.
First, my friend lives and dies with UKBB and has for almost 70 years now.
Second, my own personal opinion is it's too soon to state something that definitive.
Third, if this year doesn't convince you that the other SEC schools are serious about basketball and will dedicate a lot of resources to being excellent, you've got your royal blue blinders on.
Fourth, we all know, in football, UK is not generally capable of outbidding TX, UT, AL, GA, UF, etc al. If #3 above is true, why would basketball be any different?
Not sure why so many of you were triggered by a fairly simple question regarding the longer term prospects for programs that may not be able to keep up financially in this new NIL Era. But, again, Rafters is gonna Rafter. As you were.
He’s right! Not that we won’t win another title instead we won’t win another title under the current athletic department leadership. It’s going to require winning some knife fights for guys and we need to show we are best in basketball at doing that. Facilities need to be top notch. The nil culture needs to be like duke no mercy. There is plenty of money to get to players. That should never be an issue unless there becomes a salary cap. I think if UK brought a new hungry AD we would look completely different. You can’t have a Stone Age AD in the new age of NIL. By the time he settles in he will know whether pope is the right guy or not or hell someone fresh may make for opportunity for pitino to become that ambassador that wasn’t good enough for cal. I agree with your friend though. The luster has worn off our program. pope is a good fan hire but he didn’t bring back the luster with bravado pitino and cal did. I don’t think any team fear mark pope or his style. He’s gonna have to win big to do that. And if it’s a long time, we may not win another for decades. It’s already been 13 years and I don’t see anything happening with our program to lead me to believe we will be in the thick of it anytime soon. Recruits look at us and see us a mid tier sec team right now the more I type the more I’m pissed and Barney IS the reason this program is where it is. If your boss said here is a lifetime contract to do the bare minimum. How much are you gonna put in??
Idk about never but it will be crazy hard unless nil gets fixed.
Stacked roster? How do you think hes going to reel in a stacked roster? Because we're UK? That barely counts anymore.
Money is all that matters and we're not a premier nil program. That's just the truth.
If #3 was such an indicator for your "friend", WHY were the arenas for the teams at the top of the SEC EMPTY except for when UK came to town???? Now Auburn and Bama fans were better at attending their home games than they had been in recent years, but NONE of the schools you implied have NEAR the following of UK Basketball OR the TV ratings.
UK has ALL the MONEY we need to bring in ANY player we want, no matter who else wants them. Your "friend" is a victim of recency bias. Coach Pope WILL get UK basketball back to the top, starting next season.
Then your friend is either very uninformed or a fool. UK since Cal left has become a top 5 in NIL money.
Where is this stacked roster coming from? I mean every year every team is looking for spare parts. I mean seriously we should be a s16 team every year. Even the first. That is what the job at uk does for coaches. Even a drunk made the tournament. Another drunk made a s16. Pope met that expectation (s16) but it’s also clear we are not elite to compete for titles. The concern is we have to go find a lot of spare parts to have a team next year so it’s a reset kinda like cal but without Cals ability to land elite talent when the season ended. Pope may break through and win a conference title but it’s gonna be very difficult.
This pay for play fear is getting out of hand.
Most of the remaining teams spend all their NIL on football. What they have left over and are allegedly spending on basketball I think has been largely over exaggerated. Pearl is a great coach. He’s always been able to attract talent and develop them. UT has 10 mil in a QB. Not sure how much is left for bball. They caught a good region and us on an off night.
Duke is Duke.
Izzo is a GOAT.
Houston…Mattress Jack is rich, but I’d say it’s more Sampson.
Most of the remaining teams spend all their NIL on football. What they have left over and are allegedly spending on basketball I think has been largely over exaggerated. Pearl is a great coach. He’s always been able to attract talent and develop them. UT has 10 mil in a QB. Not sure how much is left for bball. They caught a good region and us on an off night.
Duke is Duke.
Izzo is a GOAT.
Houston…Mattress Jack is rich, but I’d say it’s more Sampson.
I bet that's what said. My nephews best friend said the same thing.
My opinion is that your friend sounds like a moron. We may not win another title in my lifetime (I'm 65), or we might win one next year. All you can ask for is to have enough talent to be in the hunt and have some luck to be (relatively) injury free, be playing well at the end of the year and hope you don't have a bad shooting night that you can't overcome.
The question I, and many others have is, is UK/ Boosters/ Alumni etc. going to pay year end and year out, to have a stacked roster that’s needed to compete?
I’m on record stating UK shouldn’t get in the business of overpaying players, ESPECIALLY these unproven (at the college level) freshman, but I have yet to see them close on a top 5 prospect, freshman or portal!
And to have a “stacked roster”, that’s going to have to change, and quick!
Yes because we are one of only a handful of schools that obsesses over basketball instead of football. The doubters will find out this portal cycle, we will swing big and have a loaded roster.
I sort of agree.
But we are witnessing the newest Professional Sports leagues coming to birth under the guise of old College Athletics evolution. All sports are now a free Agency market with a draft (teams picking the top 10% of high school stars). The remaining players go to lower level colleges and even division 2 or 3 for a year or two. Then they get plucked by the bigger guys. We will see the need for scouts Paid scouts that do noting but regionally cover the smaller schools. They will evaluate the talent to get it to the coaches. The schools that have the foresight to get proper administration (general managers) for each sport will thrive. It will continue as a business and less about academics from a few years ago moving forward. You will have to have staff members that are doing nothing but helping guys place into the business after their time at UK, meaning professional leagues around the world.
So arguably the greatest program in college Basketball history is a “have not”? Not buying it. Granted there are more and more teams competing at the higher level. NIL and the portal has created more parity at the P4 level and at the expense of the mid majors. But UK will still and always will be a player at the highest level and able to compete for championships.
Kentucky had a roster good enough to win a National Championship this season. Unfortunately, our prospects were limited by injuries. This team still managed a #3 seed and a S16 in the most competitive conference in NCAA history.
Kentucky will be even better next year
Kentucky will be even better next year
Never? As in like the history and future of college basketball never?
I think that's a bit silly
Even in year 1 of Pope, we were good enough to be a S16 team and healthy maybe make it even further.
I will say this......it's going to be harder and harder to win titles and sustain success. So it might take a lot longer than most are willing to put up with.
I think that's a bit silly
Even in year 1 of Pope, we were good enough to be a S16 team and healthy maybe make it even further.
I will say this......it's going to be harder and harder to win titles and sustain success. So it might take a lot longer than most are willing to put up with.
For attention…..😂 that’s laughable from someone who thinks they’re the message board police. You attack people for their opinions so if anyone is attention seeking it’s definitely you dipstick. If someone is calling the players names, then yeah attack but just for asking a question or posting an opinion gives you nor anyone else the right to come at them. You attacked me over asking our pg plans so yeah of the shoe fits wear it cause it definitely fits you and your agenda. So stfu especially when you have no idea what you’re talking about, you don’t get to talk down to someone then say to not comeback at you. How about you grow up, act like an adult, or just shut up altogether.
I believe just the opposite is true. The NCAA is going to be less likely to have upset wins.
This season’s tournament is going to be the norm going forward, IMO, and championships will be won by blue bloods.
Kentucky matters but I do believe it’s about money and everyone loves money
Lmao wild take! Idk how true it is, but rumor has it that UK has one of the biggest NIL budgets in college basketball. IIRC, I read on HOB the other day that we have the biggest NIL budget. Again, I have no idea. I haven’t really kept up with NIL and such.
Here's a legitimate doubt :
If Barnes will ever get Tennessee to a final four ?
right now it looks like a pipe dream.
If Barnes will ever get Tennessee to a final four ?
right now it looks like a pipe dream.
