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[LowerLevelSeatA]

Fayette Co friends! Please vote..

District 1 - Monica Mundy

District 3 - Isaac Sebourn

District 5 - Betsy Rutherford

We NEED to get competent and honest leaders on our school board!

 

[cole854]

Was at a Sebourn rally last week....helluva nice guy and very focused, especially on FCPS expenses. Solid yes on Amend2 and his kids are in public schools.

 

[bbonds]

Did my part. Mundy.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Voted for all 3. Here we go!!!!

 

[AIChatGPT]

Voted for all 3. Here we go!!!!

Same

Big Betsy honk.

 

[vhcat70]

More importantly, vote for Amendment 2. Then whomever the school board members are won't matter so much. Take control of your kids schooling !!

 

[Glenn's take]

I would hate to see how many posts the OP would start about the school board if he lived in Jefferson County.

 

[WildcatFan1982]

I would hate to see how many posts the OP would start about the school board if he lived in Jefferson County.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

I would hate to see how many posts the OP would start about the school board if he lived in Jefferson County.

A heck of a lot! But sadly Fayette county is not to far off from Jefferson county and trying their best to pass them up for biggest dumpster fire.

 

[MGGA]

Travokta

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Come away with only one win. So now school board will be more of same it has been and even further their agenda. Tyler, Amy, and Penny I think will be the 3 to side with superintendent liggins and his agendas. Betsy and Monica are the outnumbered 2 votes.

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

A heck of a lot! But sadly Fayette county is not to far off from Jefferson county and trying their best to pass them up for biggest dumpster fire.

Fayette is way behind JCPS for f-ck up history.

 

[CSC81]

Man, you and I have had our arguments in the past in GYERO, and I basically decided to just let it go because I was being a jerk and realized you really are passionate about this stuff…

But what are you getting out of putting so much effort and energy into it? Especially when you’re disappointed the way you were tonight; is it really worth all of this consternation and stress?

 

[funKYcat75]

Penny is a good lady. Smart, too. I don’t know her that well personally, but I don’t think she would be a blind follower.

Vouchers have to be dead for a while in this state. Even in one of the reddest of red state, it’s just not even close, twice.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Man, you and I have had our arguments in the past in GYERO, and I basically decided to just let it go because I was being a jerk and realized you really are passionate about this stuff…

But what are you getting out of putting so much effort and energy into it? Especially when you’re disappointed the way you were tonight; is it really worth all of this consternation and stress?

Yes it’s worth it. Nothing personal against anyone not with me.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Penny is a good lady. Smart, too. I don’t know her that well personally, but I don’t think she would be a blind follower.

Vouchers have to be dead for a while in this state. Even in one of the reddest of red state, it’s just not even close, twice.

Good, I hope I’m wrong 😀

 

[SkyPrince1]

Penny is a good lady. Smart, too. I don’t know her that well personally, but I don’t think she would be a blind follower.

Vouchers have to be dead for a while in this state. Even in one of the reddest of red state, it’s just not even close, twice.

Is it even about party affiliation when KY has one of the lowest average incomes in the nation.
Where's the benefit for the average Kentuckian?

 

[cat_in_the_hat]

Is it even about party affiliation when KY has one of the lowest average incomes in the nation.
Where's the benefit for the average Kentuckian?

I think you have to think long term. Schools need competition to improve. It's no different than any other product or service your buy. If you have one or two suppliers, the product or service generally won't be very good. Some small counties still may not have competition in the short run, but hopefully allowing school choice would ultimately introduce competition into those places as well through the introduction of additional school options. . So long term, I think all Kentuckians would benefit. Amendment 2 just allowed people to use tax money for private schools, because the Constitution doesn't allow it, but I was hoping that when they implemented all of that it would include school choice among public schools as well. So basically, stop operating schools as monopolies. Until that happens, in my opinion, you can pour as much money as you want into school systems and they still won't much more than mediocre.

 

[Tskware]

Fayette Co friends! Please vote..

District 1 - Monica Mundy

District 3 - Isaac Sebourn

District 5 - Betsy Rutherford

We NEED to get competent and honest leaders on our school board!

I voted for Betsy, but she did about the same as most of my other choices. ☹️

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Penny is a good lady. Smart, too. I don’t know her that well personally, but I don’t think she would be a blind follower.

Vouchers have to be dead for a while in this state. Even in one of the reddest of red state, it’s just not even close, twice.

The problem is noone pushed that amendment. I have no idea why you pit something like that on the ballot then basically never promote it. Meanwhile the union spent a fortune to beat it.

The teachers union in ky wields a sh1tload of power. Its mostly a rural state where in all but a few counties the school board is by far the biggest employer. They do a great job of leveraging that dynamic via lying and scare tactics. Its tough to overcome.

The only way to get it through is either actually run it full bore and match their spend and effort or just dont mention it until you get in office and ram it through.

Kids would benefit so much from it, its worth whatever it takes to get it done.

 

[funKYcat75]

The problem is noone pushed that amendment. I have no idea why you pit something like that on the ballot then basically never promote it.

You're kidding, right? I heard about it plenty. Rand Paul made an ad for it, along with others. This is the second time it's been defeated. You can't look at Kentucky's votes and say this wasn't on the forefront of voters' minds. Trump won by a landslide, Amendment 1 carried with no problem. When they got to vote on it, the majority of folks voted against it. It should be over. Forget about the political sides affifliated with amendment 2 and look at the numbers. Kentuckians don't want it, or at least don't wnat the legislature messing with public money.

 

[cole854]

You're kidding, right? I heard about it plenty. Rand Paul made an ad for it, along with others. This is the second time it's been defeated. You can't look at Kentucky's votes and say this wasn't on the forefront of voters' minds. Trump won by a landslide, Amendment 1 carried with no problem. When they got to vote on it, the majority of folks voted against it. It should be over. Forget about the political sides affifliated with amendment 2 and look at the numbers. Kentuckians don't want it, or at least don't wnat the legislature messing with public money.

Nope...ads may have been fine, but they weren't clear, and didn't explain the myths and misconceptions from the "no" side. It was very poorly explained and supported from those in support. The "no" side was essentially believing that public schools were going to turn into your grandpa's one room school house if this passed and it wasn't disputed.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

You're kidding, right? I heard about it plenty. Rand Paul made an ad for it, along with others. This is the second time it's been defeated. You can't look at Kentucky's votes and say this wasn't on the forefront of voters' minds. Trump won by a landslide, Amendment 1 carried with no problem. When they got to vote on it, the majority of folks voted against it. It should be over. Forget about the political sides affifliated with amendment 2 and look at the numbers. Kentuckians don't want it, or at least don't wnat the legislature messing with public money.

Hes literally it and he has nothing to do with state politics.

By contrast drive down 64 and see endless billboards against it. Endless radio ads against it. School employees and kea members got endless fear porn mailing and texts about it.

One side went full bore on it and the other barely a whimper. So yes it was definitely on the minds of voters if they were voting against it because the opposition inundated everyone and got out their vote, which they are good at.

 

[funKYcat75]

I'll admit I am biased, obviously. I got plenty of mailers and saw other ads besides Paul's in favor of the amendment. Maybe it's a Fayette/Jefferson thing due to large constituency. I don't know.

Now, if there was an actual PLAN that amendment 2 would have led to, it might have done better. Transparency about what the legislature would have actually done with the money would have helped.

Look, I get that people are less than enthused about public education. But are they upset enough to let the KY legislature do whatever they want and amend the state constitution with no outline of how the funds would be dispersed? Would they be happy with a upper-middle class family receiving the same amount of money from the state for private school as a one-parent family? What about homeschoolers? It was all way too vague, not to mention talking points about 'raising teacher salaries' that had no basis in truth or fact.

are you in favor of enabling the General Assembly to provide financial support for the education costs of students in kindergarten through 12th grade who are outside the system of common (public) schools by amending the Constitution of Kentucky as stated below?

I'm not looking to argue, because no one is going to change their mind.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I'll admit I am biased, obviously. I got plenty of mailers and saw other ads besides Paul's in favor of the amendment. Maybe it's a Fayette/Jefferson thing due to large constituency. I don't know.

Now, if there was an actual PLAN that amendment 2 would have led to, it might have done better. Transparency about what the legislature would have actually done with the money would have helped.

Look, I get that people are less than enthused about public education. But are they upset enough to let the KY legislature do whatever they want and amend the state constitution with no outline of how the funds would be dispersed? Would they be happy with a upper-middle class family receiving the same amount of money from the state for private school as a one-parent family? What about homeschoolers? It was all way too vague, not to mention talking points about 'raising teacher salaries' that had no basis in truth or fact.

are you in favor of enabling the General Assembly to provide financial support for the education costs of students in kindergarten through 12th grade who are outside the system of common (public) schools by amending the Constitution of Kentucky as stated below?

I'm not looking to argue, because no one is going to change their mind.

There isnt a plan now other than more of the same wasteful spending and awful results. Of course that benefits teachers' unions so thats why theyre highly interested.

 

[Glenn's take]

I'll admit I am biased, obviously. I got plenty of mailers and saw other ads besides Paul's in favor of the amendment. Maybe it's a Fayette/Jefferson thing due to large constituency. I don't know.

Now, if there was an actual PLAN that amendment 2 would have led to, it might have done better. Transparency about what the legislature would have actually done with the money would have helped.

Look, I get that people are less than enthused about public education. But are they upset enough to let the KY legislature do whatever they want and amend the state constitution with no outline of how the funds would be dispersed? Would they be happy with a upper-middle class family receiving the same amount of money from the state for private school as a one-parent family? What about homeschoolers? It was all way too vague, not to mention talking points about 'raising teacher salaries' that had no basis in truth or fact.

are you in favor of enabling the General Assembly to provide financial support for the education costs of students in kindergarten through 12th grade who are outside the system of common (public) schools by amending the Constitution of Kentucky as stated below?

I'm not looking to argue, because no one is going to change their mind.

Was always against vouchers until about the last 5 years or so. I live in Jefferson County where I think one of the school boards main goals is to drive as many people to either Oldham County or private school. That's how bad a job JCPS does. Without doing it intentionally, it's impossible to be this bad.

 

[WayneDougan]

Was always against vouchers until about the last 5 years or so. I live in Jefferson County where I think one of the school boards main goals is to drive as many people to either Oldham County or private school. That's how bad a job JCPS does. Without doing it intentionally, it's impossible to be this bad.

Same, Glenn. I was opposed to vouchers too. I think St X, KCD and all the other private schools would just take that money and raise tuition.

That said, it feels like there are incentives for JCPS to push kids to the private schools and Oldham Co. Plus, I know several principals and people in leadership in JCPS. They are good people on a personal basis, but they ABSOLUTELY are woke losers when it comes to their jobs. The only way out of that is to get competition.

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Fayette County saw plenty of ads on both sides. I think this was something that appealed to some folks in urban areas of Kentucky and nowhere else. A lack of voter information isn’t to blame, imo. Folks just didn’t see the benefit. If you live in somewhere like Bath or Green County, how would this amendment really help you?

 

[Glenn's take]

Same, Glenn. I was opposed to vouchers too. I think St X, KCD and all the other private schools would just take that money and raise tuition.

That said, it feels like there are incentives for JCPS to push kids to the private schools and Oldham Co. Plus, I know several principals and people in leadership in JCPS. They are good people on a personal basis, but they ABSOLUTELY are woke losers when it comes to their jobs. The only way out of that is to get competition.

JCPS is too big to work efficiently.