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Five-star PG Frank Jackson will make his college announcement on Tuesday.

It's either going to be Duke or Utah. I think he just got back from a visit to Durham, so that's likely the pick. He's a really, really good player, probably the 3rd best PG behind Fox and Smith.
 
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One thing that still baffles me is how when UK is looking to get a commitment, there is always some "last minute push" that reporters put out there that gets BBN in angst. I can't for the life me remember the last time this happened to Duke, UNC, or even Kansas. Maybe its just the power of BBN to increase site hits.

Everyone knew UK for Mulder, Lee, James Young, MKG, Ulis and maybe a few select others but besides that it seems everyone else has had drama surrounding it.
 
What makes you say that?
I just don't think he does anything great. I think he is an extremely steady PG, don't get me wrong. He will probably do well in Duke's system. He shoots the ball well. I would rather have any of Fox, Smith, Simmons over him at PG mainly because I think they fit our system better.
 
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It's either going to be Duke or Utah. I think he just got back from a visit to Durham, so that's likely the pick. He's a really, really good player, probably the 3rd best PG behind Fox and Smith.


I my self fill like Smith is 1, Fox is 2 & Simmons is 3, I can't see Jackson being better that anyone of those 3.
 
I would be thrilled if we end up with a Top 3 PG. The potential to have Ulis AND Briscoe, plus Hawkins, back has to make it tough for a top PG to come here and compete for playing time.
 
I think that Fox is the best PG in the class and has by far the most upside of any of them.

I wouldn't think that Cal would say no to a Simmons commit but Fox is the difference maker!
 
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I my self fill like Smith is 1, Fox is 2 & Simmons is 3, I can't see Jackson being better that anyone of those 3.
I think he is a better point guard than Simmons. Frankly, I don't really see Simmons as a PG, he might play lead guard in certain situations, but not a traditional PG. I suppose you could also include Markelle Fultz as a PG since that is where he wants to play.

If was ranking (and including Fultz and Simmons) I'd put Fox 1, Smith 2, Jackson 3, Fults 4, and Simmons 5.
 
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Before this summer, Simmons was considered possibly the best of the bunch.

He had a lot of turnovers, didn't shoot the ball well, and was blatantly outplayed in head to head match-ups with other top players.

He's still a blue chip athlete and could thrive playing under Cal.

He also seems like he could be a bust if he plays for the wrong coach in college.
 
Before this summer, Simmons was considered possibly the best of the bunch.

He had a lot of turnovers, didn't shoot the ball well, and was blatantly outplayed in head to head match-ups with other top players.

He's still a blue chip athlete and could thrive playing under Cal.

He also seems like he could be a bust if he plays for the wrong coach in college.
And I don't disagree with any of that. I hope I haven't given that impression. Simmons is a great player. I think he has the ability to play a number of different positions on an elite level. His athleticism is certainly right up there with anyone outside of Monk.
 
Jackson won't play PG at Duke, so in Duke's eyes its irrelevant who's the best "point guard." He'll play off of the ball and be encouraged to be aggressive against smaller/less athletic defenders.
 
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Jackson won't play PG at Duke, so in Duke's eyes its irrelevant who's the best "point guard." He'll play off of the ball and be encouraged to be aggressive against smaller/less athletic defenders.

Nah..he'll play point. Duke already has Allen, Jones, Kennard, and Tatum off the ball.
 
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Thornton should still be there playing point. But that is a crowded back court.
 
No worries. Next year K will be talking about positionless players.

Hahahaha yeah... K is known for having THE most flexible offensive mindset in the history of the game. Every single year he tailors the offense around the talent on the team, but because now Calipari invokes the buzzwords "position-less players," you think he invented the concept...
 
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Hahahaha yeah... K is known for having THE most flexible offensive mindset in the history of the game. Every single year he tailors the offense around the talent on the team, but because now Calipari invokes the buzzwords "position-less players," you think he invented the concept...
Nobody said that. What he is implying is that K has completely copied the path that Cal made. Nothing is to stop him from copying even more of his tactics since they clearly have worked. Duke is now operating a revolving wheel, something all of your fans and fans around the country demonized just a short 5 years ago when Cal first tried it.
 
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This is what K is trying to put together:

Starters
G Thornton
G Jackson
G Allen
F Tatum
F Giles

Key Reserves
G Jones
F Gabriel
F/C Bolden

Bench(won't play much)
G Kennard
F Obi
F/C Jeter

I don't think K trusts Kennard and Jeter, since he is recruiting over them.
 
WRONG. Please pay attention.


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Honestly, in today's one-and-done world, I don't expect Thornton to stick around. Duke isn't the haven of 4-year players it used to be and it'll be a down year for point guards. If he can duplicate a 12 point, 5 assist year like Tyus Jones and think he'll get a mid-late first round pick, he'll take off.
 
This is what K is trying to put together:

Starters
G Thornton
G Jackson
G Allen
F Tatum
F Giles

Key Reserves
G Jones
F Gabriel
F/C Bolden

Bench(won't play much)
G Kennard
F Obi
F/C Jeter

I don't think K trusts Kennard and Jeter, since he is recruiting over them.


That roster has at least two transfers written all over it.
 
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Nobody said that. What he is implying is that K has completely copied the path that Cal made. Nothing is to stop him from copying even more of his tactics since they clearly have worked. Duke is now operating a revolving wheel, something all of your fans and fans around the country demonized just a short 5 years ago when Cal first tried it.

What is the path that Cal made? Recruiting the most talented players? K has been doing that for the last 30 years. The rules have changed, but K has gone after the elite talent his entire career.
 
The OAD model isn't without it's hurdles. New players adjusting, Coaches working with new players. Molding egos. Ensuring playing time. Recruits unexpectedly going to the draft, or worse, transferring. Trying not to over-recruit, but also avoiding putting a thin team on the floor. Nothing comes easy. The OAD model requires much more time than taking a proven roster and getting them back on the court, for the 3rd or 4th year in a row. Calipari works harder than arguably any other coach in the game.

Duke is in for a rude awakening if they think EVERY player is going to be happy.. If they think transfers won't occur.. if some player's potential isn't fully realized before they leave. It's not some foolproof plan, and some things have to be sacrificed if you want revolving talent.

I've said this before, Duke/CoachK had a terrific year with a team and recruiting class that was just right. They had all the right players... solid guards who flop, true-centers, do-everything forwards.. it was a lot like Kentucky's title run with AD/MKG.. just without the theatrics. But that's not going to happen every year. Very improbable that Duke puts a team on the floor that's as cohesive and position-spanning as 2014. There is no Okafor this time around. No Winslow either..
 
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Hahahaha yeah... K is known for having THE most flexible offensive mindset in the history of the game. Every single year he tailors the offense around the talent on the team, but because now Calipari invokes the buzzwords "position-less players," you think he invented the concept...


Of course. He's Saint K.
 
The OAD model isn't without it's hurdles. New players adjusting, Coaches working with new players. Molding egos. Ensuring playing time. Recruits unexpectedly going to the draft, or worse, transferring. Trying not to over-recruit, but also avoiding putting a thin team on the floor. Nothing comes easy. The OAD model requires much more time than taking a proven roster and getting them back on the court, for the 3rd or 4th year in a row. Calipari works harder than arguably any other coach in the game.

Duke is in for a rude awakening if they think EVERY player is going to be happy.. If they think transfers won't occur.. if some player's potential isn't fully realized before they leave. It's not some foolproof plan, and some things have to be sacrificed if you want revolving talent.

I've said this before, Duke/CoachK had a terrific year with a team and recruiting class that was just right. They had all the right players... solid guards who flop, true-centers, do-everything forwards.. it was a lot like Kentucky's title run with AD/MKG.. just without the theatrics. But that's not going to happen every year. Very improbable that Duke puts a team on the floor that's as cohesive and position-spanning as 2014. There is no Okafor this time around. No Winslow either..

You are overthinking it.

K has been coaching for years and years and years. He has worked with super talented freshmen a ton. Having several of them isn't some OMG magical difficult thing unlike anything he has ever done. It is having freshmen, and he has had multiple freshmen playing important roles for thirty years. Not only that, but it is having the most talented players; not exactly a hardship. You are buying into the "OAD is some special magical system unlike anything else" hype, most of which is media generated. It isn't. It is having talented freshmen, a "problem" or "system" or whatever that most coaches would love to have.
 
Frank Jackson, a 6'4" combo guard out of Utah is set to announce tonight at 6:30. Rivals has him ranked #10 overall and in the top 3 PG's in the 2016 class. Lot's of 'experts' expect it to be Duke.
 
Ok so when Fox and Monk both decide im going over to a Duke board and posting about it. This post by the OP is nothing but gloating about Duke's recruiting because we sure werent recruiting jackson
 
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