ADVERTISEMENT

FACTS for the Cal has underachieved crowd

Of course the fact that they are young for the most part, devoid of skills from their prep years and it was only their third game are irrelevant to a Cal hater like you. Bash away little CLODite.

What’s your excuse to kState two years ago and Auburn last year? I don’t know why I argue with simple minds. It’s really not worth my time.
 
So you’re predicting something that’s never happened before? LOL ... ok. And if the pay-for-play thing changes the college basketball landscape, that in no way has anything to with what we were talking about. Cal is the greatest recruiter ever, but he isn’t the greatest coach ever. I hope he’s here another ten years, but when he leaves he’ll be followed at UK by another big time coach. I’m not the least bit concerned.

I'm just thinking through the transition from 1 and done to how we used to be.
 
Excuse? No excuse. There is a variability to how each team plays. Any team can lose on a given night. There are a 1000 reasons for this. It happens. Only really stupid people don't know this.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatfanMike47
Cal has spent the majority of his coaching career not at UK while Coach K and Dean Smith spent almost their entire coaching careers at two bb powerhouses. That’s a weak argument in your mind only.
Ahh, moving the goal post again, eh? Well whatever makes you feel superior, Freshman.
 
It’s 99.9% guaranteed your scenario doesn’t happen. We’ve had one bad hire since the 1930’s, that resulted in one mediocre two-year period. It’s ridiculous to suggest we’ll have a major letdown after Cal leaves, or after any UK basketball coach leaves. Aside from the BCG hiccup, we’ve been pretty much flawless in coaching hires. That won’t change when Cal leaves.

Brother Blue...I am talking about a major let down from what Cal has done here. Three of our coaches have won like Cal has. Rupp, Pitino and Cal himself.

Sutton was not a good hire...he got us on freaking probation, damn near the death penalty. Tubby is a fine man but his tenure was largely underwhelming save the first season and 2003. BCG was a train wreck.

Point is the next guy that walks in here is probably not gonna avg 30 wins a year over 10 years...Cals run has been historic...though we all wish he had 1 more title...at least :)
 
Excuse? No excuse. There is a variability to how each team plays. Any team can lose on a given night. There are a 1000 reasons for this. It happens. Only really stupid people don't know this.

So in other words losses don’t count because they can’t be helped? Why the hell do we even need a coach then? The coaches job is to make sure the team is ready to play,with a game plan. We lose because our team isn’t ready and has no game plan. That’s the definition of what a coach does.
 
So you’re predicting something that’s never happened before? LOL ... ok. And if the pay-for-play thing changes the college basketball landscape, that in no way has anything to with what we were talking about. Cal is the greatest recruiter ever, but he isn’t the greatest coach ever. I hope he’s here another ten years, but when he leaves he’ll be followed at UK by another big time coach. I’m not the least bit concerned.

You are pulling things out of your ass to argue about. Its interesting to speculate what happens if you transition from one and done to a veteran core.

Refreshing a team every year means that you don't have a core for a new coach to fall back on. They have to build. They are likely not going to be the recruiter that he is. Its reasonable to assume they will take 2 - 3 years to assemble that veteran squad.

I'm not arguing with another idiot on what kinda of coach he is. His record is unassailable, particularly given the exceedingly low experience of his teams and the woeful basketball skills taught in the prep environment. I find people that can't understand that are really too dense to grasp basic facts. They tend to seize on obscure and disjointed numbers to make a case from vapor.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatfanMike47
So in other words losses don’t count because they can’t be helped? Why the hell do we even need a coach then? The coaches job is to make sure the team is ready to play,with a game plan. We lose because our team isn’t ready and has no game plan. That’s the definition of what a coach does.

When did I say that? I didn't say that. You either can't read or you are intentionally just making crap up to have an argument.

I said losses happen. Statistical reality. Immature and ignorant fans can't seem to grasp that.
 
Lol I’m not moving any goal posts just stating facts. Obviously that’s something you have a problem dealing with.
Not at all, except I have learned to not discuss a subject with anyone that keeps moving the goal posts. First it was coached for 20 years, then it was coached at same school for 20 years, if I debate further, you would only move them again, so I won't waste my time.

How many coaches have we had at UK for 20 years? I'll answer for you, ONE, Adolph Rupp, so you see, there is no way to debate this with you.
 
When did I say that? I didn't say that. You either can't read or you are intentionally just making crap up to have an argument.

I said losses happen. Statistical reality. Immature and ignorant fans can't seem to grasp that.

That’s exactly what you’re saying. You’re saying losses happen. You’re right they do but seasons ending on dreadful performances happens to Kentucky more than any other team.
 
That’s exactly what you’re saying. You’re saying losses happen. You’re right they do but seasons ending on dreadful performances happens to Kentucky more than any other team.

LOL! Crap, you actually said that. That's because we are in that position for those loses more than any other team. You play for all the marbles, most of the time you are going to lose them. Crap, man, learn the damn sport.
 
You are pulling things out of your ass to argue about. Its interesting to speculate what happens if you transition from one and done to a veteran core.

Refreshing a team every year means that you don't have a core for a new coach to fall back on. They have to build. They are likely not going to be the recruiter that he is. Its reasonable to assume they will take 2 - 3 years to assemble that veteran squad.

I'm not arguing with another idiot on what kinda of coach he is. His record is unassailable, particularly given the exceedingly low experience of his teams and the woeful basketball skills taught in the prep environment. I find people that can't understand that are really too dense to grasp basic facts. They tend to seize on obscure and disjointed numbers to make a case from vapor.
LMAO ... what a nutcase. I was complimenting Cal, and you’re still melting down. Too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
 
LMAO ... what a nutcase. I was complimenting Cal, and you’re still melting down. Too funny. Thanks for the laugh.

No, actually, I was trying to have a legitimate discussion about a future transition with one of the few on the board I respect. Well, used to respect.
 
You attacked me, buddy. I’m just giving it back.

Nope, I didn't. You went off on a tirade over crap that wasn't even part of what I was responding to. I responded to your tirade. Go back and read.

Fact of the matter is, this will happen someday. The guys making the new hire will have a choice to find the same or hire a more traditional type recruiter. Further, it could happen to Cal himself if the NBA changes their stupid rules. This bunch of win now, win at any cost and win inspite of any odd fools will eat whoever it is at the time alive.
 
Cal is your guy is you like success between the 20s...to use a football term. He just isn't getting you into the end zone very often. He gets the talent for a run into the tournament but not enough experience or play calling to get you a title. In other words, he has the system to have enough success for many but not quite enough to be hanging many banners. That's just what we are looking at.
 
Cal is your guy is you like success between the 20s...to use a football term. He just isn't getting you into the end zone very often. He gets the talent for a run into the tournament but not enough experience or play calling to get you a title. In other words, he has the system to have enough success for many but not quite enough to be hanging many banners. That's just what we are looking at.
We’ve hung banners for 4 of the seasons that Cal has been here so what in the hell are you talking about?
 
So how come everyone was so high on cal after beating Michigan state and as soon as the team plays bad against a inferior opponent everyone’s opinions change on cal in a heartbeat?
Me personally, the MSU game didn’t make me high on Cal. I was happy to win but anything short of another title isn’t changing how I feel about or see Cal. He’s used up all the faith and good Will I had with the numerous blown titles we should have won in his time here. 2 or 3 titles right now and the blowback from the game the other night isn’t near as much. But people pissed with Cal grow every year that passes and will continue until he does something to make people believe in him again and believe that 2012 wasn’t a fluke.
 
Me personally, the MSU game didn’t make me high on Cal. I was happy to win but anything short of another title isn’t changing how I feel about or see Cal. He’s used up all the faith and good Will I had with the numerous blown titles we should have won in his time here. 2 or 3 titles right now and the blowback from the game the other night isn’t near as much. But people pissed with Cal grow every year that passes and will continue until he does something to make people believe in him again and believe that 2012 wasn’t a fluke.
It’s one game in November where the team played awful and looked uninterested can the faar cal brigade calm down
 
compare the talent

**** you

You are the worst poster on this board....and it is by a country mile. You've got a crew following you but you sir, are the worst.

You have ZERO knowledge of UK basketball history and apparently none about college basketball history in general...

Dean Smith coached 30 college All-Americans and 20+ first round NBA draft picks, oh and just the greatest player of all time. BTW, Dean went 2 for 11 in Final Fours, 2 titles in 11 trips....you are a clown dude.
 
It’s one game in November where the team played awful and looked uninterested can the faar cal brigade calm down
That shouldn’t matter here. How many times has the top team in the nation played a garbage team at home in November and been uninterested and played awful? A lot, a whole lot. How many of them lost? Not many, if any.

Besides, it’s Cal’s job to make sure they’re interested and ready for all the games.
 
That shouldn’t matter here. How many times has the top team in the nation played a garbage team at home in November and been uninterested and played awful? A lot, a whole lot. How many of them lost? Not many, if any.

Besides, it’s Cal’s job to make sure they’re interested and ready for all the games.

Says the little Duke boy. It’s no where near as bad as when your worship Ratface loss to that 15 seed.

Its your job to make sense when you bitch, yet you fail at every turn. Losses happen. Statistically, anybody can beat anybody. The sign of an athlete and team is to recover from this. But you don’t want that. You just want to piss on KY like you gave been doing for years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RunninRichie
You are the worst poster on this board....and it is by a country mile. You've got a crew following you but you sir, are the worst.

You have ZERO knowledge of UK basketball history and apparently none about college basketball history in general...

Dean Smith coached 30 college All-Americans and 20+ first round NBA draft picks, oh and just the greatest player of all time. BTW, Dean went 2 for 11 in Final Fours, 2 titles in 11 trips....you are a clown dude.

don’t forget Dean set records for cheating during all this that will never be broken.
 
That shouldn’t matter here. How many times has the top team in the nation played a garbage team at home in November and been uninterested and played awful? A lot, a whole lot. How many of them lost? Not many, if any.

Besides, it’s Cal’s job to make sure they’re interested and ready for all the games.
ITS ONE GAME IN NOVEMBER
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatfanMike47
That will be held against us big time when it comes to seeding. But whatever makes you feel better I guess.
Held against us in seeding? Who’s to say we won’t win the sec beat Ohio state and sweep Florida I forgot you seem to think we lost in the national title against Evansville and cal retired my bad
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatfanMike47
You are the worst poster on this board....and it is by a country mile. You've got a crew following you but you sir, are the worst.

You have ZERO knowledge of UK basketball history and apparently none about college basketball history in general...

Dean Smith coached 30 college All-Americans and 20+ first round NBA draft picks, oh and just the greatest player of all time. BTW, Dean went 2 for 11 in Final Fours, 2 titles in 11 trips....you are a clown dude.
This right here
 
Teams that won Titles who have been caught cheating:
2- UConn
UNCheats
Kansas
Hooker U

Teams whom we KNOW cheated:
Dook
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatfanMike47
I think most of us that say "banners" are talking National Championships....You are the ones I'm talking about when I say you are fine playing between the twenties.
I think you’re probably wrong when you say most. There is a reason FF banners hang in the rafters at Rupp.
 
  • Like
Reactions: skcatfan
I think most of us that say "banners" are talking National Championships....You are the ones I'm talking about when I say you are fine playing between the twenties.
Last time I checked UK has 8 titles which is 2nd to UCLA. Even with being 2nd all time in titles, according to your ridiculous standards, that’s a lot of seasons that were failures. I guess we need to take down all those FF banners because they really weren’t much of an accomplishment lol.
 
Last time I checked UK has 8 titles which is 2nd to UCLA. Even with being 2nd all time in titles, according to your ridiculous standards, that’s a lot of seasons that were failures. I guess we need to take down all those FF banners because they really weren’t much of an accomplishment lol.
Wow guy! We are talking about Cal here. Maybe you missed the title of the thread. Now reference that with my original post and if you still have trouble keeping up we will enroll you into a nice remedial reading class.
 
Wow guy! We are talking about Cal here. Maybe you missed the title of the thread. Now reference that with my original post and if you still have trouble keeping up we will enroll you into a nice remedial reading class.
Sorry but you’re not entitled to your own facts. You made the absurd statement that Cal doesn’t win banners when there are actually four of them hanging in Rupp from his teams. And yes one of them is for an actual title. Only one coach at UK has had more success than Cal and he has been gone for about 50 years. Maybe you’re the one that needs a remedial reading class since you don’t comprehend simple facts.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT