Enes Kanter - Nike cowardice
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Why would Nike do something they know will hurt their business? No company does that.
Just another reason to dislike the Dook benefactor.
Pretty much this. Sign an NBA player that won't do anything for your bottom line and cause you to shut down hundreds of stores? Or don't sign him and keep the hundreds of stores open? Not a very tough decision if you are Nike.
Seriously? Did you miss the comparison with the way Nike dealt with Kapernick. Based on that Enes would have fit in PERFECTLY with the: Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything. It sure sounds like Enes did the real sacrificing.
What do you think the reason is why shoe companies give athletes endorsement deals? As charity?
If signing Kanter would cause them to lose money, then why should they feel compelled to do it? They're not lacking "a pair", instead they're just making a smart business decision.
I no longer buy Nike. I guess you could call it a one man boycott.
Great point....Nike would never sign Kaepernick because it would certainly hurt their sales. <eyeroll>
Except that Kapernick helped Nike's business and Enes wouldn't. HUGE difference
http://time.com/5390884/nike-sales-go-up-kaepernick-ad/
Enes is responsible for sending his father to prison and basically ruining his life. On the other hand, their president is a piece of shit, and ultimately responsible for all of it. Probably a situation where Enes should have just kept his mouth shut, because he hasn’t changed anything.
As for Nike. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Money > Ethics.
As for Nike. Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Money > Ethics.
Did you miss the part about Nike stores shutting down in Turkey, a nation of friggin 80 million people, if they sign Kanter?
That would be a HUGE loss for Nike, so there's just no business reason to do it. Conversely, no Nike stores are shutting down because of the Koepernick signing, and there's no evidence of any comparable loss (instead it actually made Nike more attractive with many segments of our population).
You are comparing apples to oranges, two entirely different situations.
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I don’t buy their stuff. They rewarded a man who disrespects the United States and many of its fundamental symbols. I hope they go broke.
You need to go to wall street. You have made a sales projection that there is no way to predict the outcome. Just like everyone swore Nike was shooting itself in its foot by Kaepernick.
Maybe sales in the US, GBR and the rest of the EU where they hate the Turks will offset the loss in Turkey..... and it is TURKEY for gods sake. But that too is not the point. If Nike is using its "conscience" like it said it was doing...then why worry about the very Adidas Turks?
Seriously, why is this hard to understand?
Signing player A resulted in Nike making more money.
Signing player B would cause Nike to lose money.
Yet, the OP can't understand why Nike chose to sign A but not B.
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What do you wear? Adidas? Puma? If so, I've got some news for you. Both of them wanted to sign Kaep as well.
Enjoy your New Balances and Wranglers.
Nope. You and I make at least 2.
Right now I'm wearing Sketchers and LL Bean. Not giving money to Nike.
I understand and I don't blame them for making a business decision. I have a problem with them supporting players who have no respect for our country.
I agree. Kaepernick’s “struggles” are a joke compared to what Enes is facing and moreso what nameless, faceless non-NBA players who are subject to real tyranny are facing around the globe. Equating US policemen to tyrants is cringeworthy, at the very least.
That being said, Nike shouldn’t sign him, for the reasons several posters already mentioned. They’re a business meant to rip people off (and I say this despite being an Air Jordan collector), not a humanitarian organization.
Edit: I think a lot of posters are missing OP’s point. I don’t think OP is saying that it’d be good for Nike business to sign Enes - he’s commenting on the hypocrisy of their new campaign slogan.
Playing for the Knick is another sacrifice Kanter has had to endure....
This is from Kanter right? Would be interesting to hear Nike’s side if this was ever even a serious discussion.
Your data point is comparing only last Labor day on-line sales vs. Labor day this year. That was an estimate from ONE San Francisco based source and the link to it in your link does not work. I would advise to not just believe a headline. Further....no expert believed Nike sales would be positively affected over the long run.
Hey Lecter! Did you see Pitino made it overseas?
First A: you have no idea whether that is true. Dont regurgitate the labor day online sales estimate headline that created your narrative. Read below the headline.
Second B: you have no idea if that is true.
As a few folks have pointed out, signing Kaepernick ended up being a POSITIVE for Nike, in terms of money. Just look at their stock prices and sales. And there was no dictatorship shutting anything down; it was basically a free market economy making the decisions.
Still, AND THIS IS THE ULTIMATE POINT...it sucks to see a company have to nix the decision to sign an athlete who deserves to be signed because of the actions of a murderous dictator who would shut down the stores they have in Turkey, which was until very recently a rather progressive nation.
I think everyone can agree that it's a shitty position, for Enes AND for Nike, and one which everyone would hope didn't exist. Unfortunately it does, and in making business decisions money tends to get the last word... and my guess is the negatives of losing all of that business in Turkey would totally overwhelm whatever sales signing Kanter could account for.
I'd be curious to know how much money is actually at stake. Like... would $100 million be enough to make up for losing Turkey? There HAS to be a number.
Nike probably has some sweat shops in Turkey. They don't want to possibly risk losing the cheap labor by being kicked out of Turkey. By the way, can the average person in Turkey even afford to buy Nike gear?
EXACTLY!!!! No one knows the impact of EK being sponsored by Nike. Enes for one is popular here for obvious reasons. He is one of ours. I have been a Nike stock holder since the early 90's. They have made me a TON of money. I watch everything they do because I have the first dollar I invested in them still and I was concerned when the Kaepernick thing happened. My broker called me an suggested I take some profit when that broke. I said no...because I believe too in the old adage....bad publicity....just spell the name right.
So unlike most or all in this thread...i am quite familiar with the controversy because I follow their sales projections and stock prices closely. That said I have no idea how many stores they have in Turkey or if Edrogen would shut down stores. That is bluster maybe from EK. But accurate or not...it is the height of hypocrisy for Nike to use that as an excuse not to sign EK when they stared down controversy in the worlds larges economy with over 320-mil consumers.
they definitely arent " believing in something, even if it means risking everything, or just one country"
The point is Nike’s hypocrisy of pretending like they care about injustice when another athlete has literally represented their tagline to the extreme.
It isn’t that Nike is right or wrong in not signing or signing whomever. It is 100% the correct business decision. But they played the CK thing as if they were taking a moral stance.
When in reality it’s all about money and always has been/will be.
The article was just exposing the company and nothing more than a company and frauds on the image they were attempting but to create in the social front of being some champions of justice and sacrifice in the name of non sport related beliefs. The “more than an athlete” nonsense.
Not sure that we can be comparing events in the United States and present-day Turkey in any meaningful way. I know folks are trying to, but I don't see much connection between a company's dealing in the United States with it's dealing in Turkey under Erdogan.
Turkey is a fairly progressive nation... more European than Middle Eastern. The rich are REALLY really rich, but of course there is a fair share of poor folks. It's not the United States, but it isn't Iraq.
lol but they’ll endorse that fake asshole Kapernik
I don’t think the point is that Enes deserved a Nike campaign. The point is that they’re huge hypocrites for acting like they’re social activists, even in the face of adversity. It’s disingenuous. Nike doesn’t deserve any credit for serving as a platform for equality any more than Colin Kaepernick. They’re both frauds.
You say this as if it's a revelation rather than what we already knew. Nike, like all these shoe companies, is a rapacious corporation. Rapacious corporations make their decisions based on whatever's best for the bottom line.
Nike chose to sign Koepernick because its market research analysts studied the issue and concluded it would not hurt them in the end, and probably even boost their worldwide sales (which has proven true). And it chose not to sign Kanter because the same analysts studied the issue and concluded that would greatly hurt their overseas sales.
It ain't complicated.
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