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End of Graduate Transfers such as Reid Travis and Nate Sestina possible likely

They aren't getting rid of it. They're just creating a nonsensical hassle element that will require more long-term planning for coaches looking for a quick fix en route to signing up 2 or 3 of these guys at a time.
Good then. I just read the title. Still doesn't the NCAA have bigger fish to fry? So now in college BB a kid can go pro straight from HS and now they want to make grad transfers a headache. NCAA are idiots. They want good ratings and that money, but they are not growing with the times and they are just making it harder for programs to adjust and be successful which is what they should want to keep their precious ratings. Just seems like college BB has enough obstacles with the NBA as it is. They want to make this harder, but coaches can still bolt from a college for more money and kids get stuck or have to sit out a year. Get your head out of your asses NCAA!

I mean why punish or change anything. If a kid puts his time in and is successful and wants to move on to give himself to be successful in BB longterm why make it hard for them? They gave their university enough time to gain a degree. NCAA is a joke and a bad one.
 
Counter productive and dumb idea and I realize it is Cal's.

What is the benefit to anyone to dock a ride because a guy playing ball doesnt complete a post graduate degree in a year?

I thought we want to encourage achievement on the floor and in the classroom?

Such a rule isn't an effort to advance the needs of student athletes but to help programs protect their rotations and I have no idea why Cal even needed to offer an opinion since we would have virtually no threat of such an event on the out flow.

He must have reverted to his UMass days for a minute and waxed nostalgic thinking how screwed he'd be if Padilla or somebody jumped ship senior year.
 
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Ridiculous. Graduate "transfers" aren't a transfer. You've graduated from school. Whether staying at the same school or attending another school, you apply for and get admitted to a separate degree program for grad school. No damn reason why a player who has achieved his degree shouldn't be able to graduate and go wherever he wants. NCAA needs to stop trying to control the student-athletes.
The NCAA is just worried about money, not student-athletes. Ok, great something for them to work on. When are they going to work on all the cheating and investigations?
 
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I did read the article. That comment came from Calipari before he changed his mind about the grad transfer rule. And there is no need to be so over the top- saying I can't read and I'm a moron. Could you disagree with me without all of that?
Come on now. You have to throw insults when you disagree with someone. It is beyond reason to think someone can layout their reasons without insults.
 
They're not ending graduate transfers . please read the article . They going to make it a little harder but not that much. Moving on
 
Read the article. It's not the end of grad transfers, it's a method to help control it.

Cal is actually the one who has said this is the way it should be and it's his idea they are moving forward with.

The rule itself seems to have come straight from the mouth of Kentucky Coach John Calipari, who suggested to ESPN in 2016 — long before the committee began its work — that “if the kid gets his grad degree in one year, fine; if he doesn’t, you’ve got to use the scholarship for two years.”

Not everything is anti-UK despite what the ridiculous conspiracy theorists here would like you to believe.
Just because youare paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.
 
Is the "graduate transfer" pathway expressly limited to an M.A. program? What if Reid Travis came to UK to attend the College of Law (3 years) or the College of Medicine (4 years); would Calipari's proposed rule change tie up a scholarship for all that time for one season of eligibility?
 
I do not like the grad transfers. Hope they do ban it or limit the number of transfers per 4 year period.
 
Completing a grad degree in one year while having a near full-time job is not easy to do. The quickest track to getting an MBA at my alma mater is 15 months, and that's basically doing it in four semesters (summer, fall, spring, summer) since summer school classes go by faster since each class meets like daily for 2-2.5 hours instead of weekly. Or at least that's what they were marketing near the end of my time there, things may have changed now. One of the MBA tracks is 42 hours, which there is no way one can get that done in 4 semesters since they won't allow someone to go over 9 hours a semester. The other is 36, so one could theoretically get that done in 4 semesters/15 months if they wanted to be 100% burnt out before it's over.

Almost everyone that does it works at least a part-time job and takes 2-3 years to complete it. I worked a full-time job when getting mine and it took me three years. I would have REALLY struggled to keep up with school and work if I tried to do it in 2 years. I don't know anyone who was on that 15-month track that had anything more than a campus student employment job where they are limited to an absolute max of 20 hours a week.
 
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How could it be before he changed his mind when he had already taken a grad transfer at UK?

Saying something moronic (like your post) and being a moron are two different things. I didn't say you are a moron.

You can get drunk and not be an alcoholic.
Sure JF Cats, I get the distinction, but there's not much of a difference, especially when you have to throw in "can you read?" It's unnecessary hostility. I'm not your enemy. Do you get that?
 
I think the most interesting element in this is that if you take two grad transfers, you could potentially lose two scholarships. Still looks like small potatoes for UK, considering Cal seldom stockpiles more than 10 guys.

Teams that take on 2-3 grad transfers at a time will find themselves screwed, however.
Yep, good points. If they require the player to finish the grad degree before leaving, that makes matters much more complicated. How many master's degrees only take a year to complete? Mine took 2.5 years. Most take at least 2 years. Why couldn't they use the same approach they use with APR scores and early NBA entrants? That is, why can't they just say players must be in good standing and progressing toward their degree? That makes more sense.
 
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The NCAA may end the transfer of players such as Reid Travis and Nate Sestina very soon, according to an article in the New York Times. In two weeks, the NCAA will vote on ending these transfers. A pity that the NCAA seems to never take into account the wishes of its "student-athletes!"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/04/...rticle&region=Footer&contentCollection=Sports
Will not affect Kentucky. All it would do is require the grad transfer to get their grad degree in one year or the school would have to give up one scholarship the next year. Cal never uses all his scholarships anyway.
 
Come on now. You have to throw insults when you disagree with someone. It is beyond reason to think someone can layout their reasons without insults.
Ha! I'm assuming you're joking. If so, I agree with your sarcastic point. Many on this board could use a lesson in how to argue without ad hominem attacks and insults. Clearly, we can disagree in an agreeable way.
 
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Depends on the program. Many colleges offer a 5 year plan with a masters at the end.
or at the beginning, tar holes. Probably this new rule is designed to work to their favor. For each masters a freshman receives they'll get surplus award, additional scholarship. For any PhD awarded to sophomores by mid term that can have their choice between 2 additional scholarships the following season, or be allowed to add any former tarhole currently in G-league to their post-season roster.
 
I have two graduate degrees. Both 30+ hours. If anyone can do one of those in 1 year while working full time and make decent grades, then I’d like to shake their hand.
 
If I use logic from The Filth, isn’t this an academic issue and not in the scope of Notoriously Corrupt Athletic Association. Maybe that only applies to fake Masters degrees.
 
Ridiculous. Graduate "transfers" aren't a transfer. You've graduated from school. Whether staying at the same school or attending another school, you apply for and get admitted to a separate degree program for grad school. No damn reason why a player who has achieved his degree shouldn't be able to graduate and go wherever he wants. NCAA needs to stop trying to control the student athletes.

That is the way I look at it. You have 4 years of eligibility. If you can graduate in 3 years, then what is the difference in using your last year of eligibility the following year? If you were a Morman, or entered the military, you would still have that year available, 2-3 years later.
 
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So if we take a grad transfer, they play their one year, but haven't finished their graduate degree...it ties up a scholarship the following year?

Not a huge deal to me really.

But it normally takes 2 years to get most Master's degrees doesn't it.
 
NCAA looking to now limit transfers because its being “abused”. Hopefully K will start using them soon so it can be considered revolutionary.
 
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Its collegiate free agency. The NCAA doesnt have any justification to interject here, other than it just doesn't like it. Get the **** over it Emmert.
 
Curious: do folks just do a quick glance on the first page? There’s a thread that is already talking about this

I love RR but there is an ever growing number of grumpy people on here that seem to having nothing better to do than feel it’s their responsibility to patrol posts looking for something to bitch about. I apologize for using up all your Internet. Hopefully you can get some more soon.
 
But it normally takes 2 years to get most Master's degrees doesn't it.

Probably, but if transfer student enters into summer classes, before and after his full w semesters while he plays, he can probably complete it before the next fall semester. After all, they have just finished 4 year studies in 3 years, so they are probably used to summer classes.
 
I love RR but there is an ever growing number of grumpy people on here that seem to having nothing better to do than feel it’s their responsibility to patrol posts looking for something to bitch about. I apologize for using up all your Internet. Hopefully you can get some more soon.

It’s not being grump you goof. Why make another post when there’s already another one?

You feel like you’re special? Please answer since you’re a know it all
 
Ha! I'm assuming you're joking. If so, I agree with your sarcastic point. Many on this board could use a lesson in how to argue without ad hominem attacks and insults. Clearly, we can disagree in an agreeable way.
Too many take it personally when someone disagrees. Those people will never make it in the real world.
 
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