so Wynyard has no shot at playing at UK next season? not even with 10 months being in the system already? I feel like people are using Willis as their reference of expectations for every white player we sign
Edrice "Bam" Adebayo official vist to UK
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Kids 17 &18 years old change their minds all the time. I did when I was at that age.
Just playing devil's advocate, if you're N.C. State and you know you have him wrapped up, you ABSOLUTELY want him to visit UK. A program like State needs some positive buzz. There's nothing better than a headline that says "Five-star recruit picks Wolfpack over UK." It gives Gottfried a little street cred to say we went head-to-head with Duke for Smith and won. We went head-to-head with UK for Bam and won. He will have "beaten" the two greatest recruiters on the planet. The fact that these recruitments were sown up in back-channel deals will be irrelevant.
not really, playing with fire would be allowing them to visit UL when Powell comes out of retirement. That fire feeling would last a long time.
Because Cal said after the NIT season he didn't want to be short handed ever again. If everyone leaves besides Wynard and Humphries, then you add SKJ and Gabriel. That's only 4 bigs with 1 wanting to get some time at the 3. One injury and you're down to 3 and depth becomes an issue. If you can convince the kids to come, share minutes and practice against NBA level talent everyday... then why not?
I bet SKJ will be 20lbs heavier by November 2016. He has already put on weight in the last year and after watching him in one of the late summer AAU games... he has the frame to put on more weight. He just turned 17 and in a fairly recent article on 247 he said he was lifting weights almost every day. Also, look how much muscle Ivan Rabb has put on since arriving at Cal since June.
Cal is one of, if not the most feared men in recruiting. I don't care who the coach we're talking, no way in hell would they suggest one of their prized recruits to visit Kentucky while Cal is here. They might not have a problem with the kid visiting Auburn in this situation, but not Cal and Kentucky. Cal could sway the kid and family on Kentucky with just one visit. You might look good if you beat out Ky on a recruit, but in this situation, the risk is too high to chance it. He may end up at NCState, but I won't buy their coach Wanting this kid anywhere near Cal.
Adebayo is the type of player I could working his way to a top 5 pick in the right program. Unfortunately, it looks like he is going to waste his talent playing for a mediocre coach and probably ends up barely making it into the first round. Plus, he won't sniff the Final Four even with Smith, Alkins, and Azubuike. I like Gottfried and NCSU, but they do not compare to a UK, Duke, or KU. Michigan St. is at least a Final Four contender with a great coach, so I understand Bridges' decision. The Wolfpack hasn't made a Final Four appearance since Valvano was coach. That was over thirty years ago. Gottfried seems to be a nice guy, I kind of like him and pull for him (especially against Duke, UNC, and UofL), but he is not an elite coach.
These kids are making decisions win their hearts and not with their heads. They stand to lose millions by not choosing the right program. If I'm a top 20 talent, I am looking at UK and Duke first and foremost. Then maybe KU. After those schools, you start putting yourself at risk to see your draft stock slip and your chances of getting to a Final Four fall off as well. At least that is how I see it.
These kids are making decisions win their hearts and not with their heads. They stand to lose millions by not choosing the right program. If I'm a top 20 talent, I am looking at UK and Duke first and foremost. Then maybe KU. After those schools, you start putting yourself at risk to see your draft stock slip and your chances of getting to a Final Four fall off as well. At least that is how I see it.
I'd be pretty comfortable with a rotation of SKJ, Bolden, Humphries, and Wynyard at the 4 and 5 with Gabriel as a fill in at the 4 at times, but playing primarily at the 3.
Smith tore his ACL on August 2nd and it's doubtful he will play this upcoming season. They were rumored to be a package deal before the injury. If Adebayo is thinking he is 1 and done he wouldn't be playing with Smith and may be reevaluating his options.
UK WILL ALTER HIS DECISION! AAHH WE ARE KENTUCKY THATS WHAT WE DO! DONE DEAL MY @$$!
?? Nice try, but really??
We're talking about players in the 2016 class. That means they won't be attending college until Aug/Sept of next year. Dennis Smith has a full year to recover. There's 0 reason to think he won't be playing next year.
If I were NC State fans, I'd be very nervous. Bam visiting UK isn't something the coaches at NC State want. The last player similar to Bam to go to NC State was CJ Leslie, who went undrafted after his time there. Meanwhile, Terrence Jones goes on to get drafted 18th in the first-round of the NBA draft.
You're right, I was thinking for some reason Smith was a commit to this year's class. He should be fully recovered by next season.
Not sure if you're referring to me, but I never said that. I said we wouldn't land him, and I haven't heard anything different. He will be at NC State.
@Elevenmill is not being a homer, he is being accurate. This is the same stuff I've been saying forever.
Uk has shot with all 3. Maybe better with bolden but still a shot with all 3.
Let me just say this, I understand there are people on here with more info about certain recruits, but hasnt the last few years taught us anything with recruiting.
The old saying shit happens in recruiting.
Yeah, I'd normally agree, but Tommy has been solid. If he gets excited about Bam, then we've got the green light. if not, it's NC state all the way.
We all know Adidas is running Bam's recruitment and there are other things going on behind the scenes pushing Bam to NC State. However, UK and Cal can change things. I'm sure if Bam is interested in attending UK that NC State may try to bully him into going to State. However, I doubt Adidas will want to do anything to jeopardize their post-college relationship with him. Like I said, Bam needs to look at CJ Leslie and all the Adidas checks he's not cashing, today.
Dennis Jr is another kid that is going to waste so much talent playing for NCState. Why these kids want to risk their future earnings on a below average(I'm being nice) coach really makes you wonder. I know the kid had a major injury, but you have to think he will make a full recovery, but playing for Gof, I'm not sure you can ever fully recover from that. The sad part is, after his freshman year is over and he's drafted 17 or 18 in the draft, some will wonder what happened to his game and its going to be so obvious. Some think if you're a lotto pick, the NBA will find you no matter where you play, even when the evidence is out there showing it does matter where and who you play for. If State ends up with this class and JR is the reason for it, they better honor that kid cause a class like that probably won't happen to them again for a very long time. Especially if Gof is still coaching there. Oh well.
You keep saying this. If you know him, or know his family, let's hear it. Otherwise, you know nothing.
Like I said, I have no doubt you know lots of behind the scenes info, but it is hard to imagine that a visit to Uk couldn't potentially sway him. But I also have no clue how deep the ties are to NC state. Is it more a visit to enjoy the process or is there even a glimmer of hope that Bam could wear blue next year?
I mean, I guess there is always hope...but A LOT would have to happen. Some of which I don't really think is possible.
I think that Cal really likes Bam and is glad to get him on campus, I also believe he knows that it is an incredible long shot...but it puts pressure on Bolden.
I think that Cal really likes Bam and is glad to get him on campus, I also believe he knows that it is an incredible long shot...but it puts pressure on Bolden.
You think Adidas would try to force his hand if Bam wanted UK? Could they afford to take that risk?
I think I do have an idea, Cal has turned up the heat on Bam recently and now he is visiting this weekend.
He went from not having Kentucky on his list to saying in an interview that he "might" visit UK...and now he is coming this weekend.
I said there is a ****ing chance, I didn't say that I was some kind of expert.
If you want to say that there is no chance then that's fine. Unless you are John Calipari or part of his family or you somehow know Bam then you really don't know for sure either.
I still say that there is a chance, Cal would not waste all of this time on him if there wasn't a chance.
