If those guys are saying they'd take Hurd over Chubb then you can add me to the list as well. Cuz dude it isn't even close. Chubb might be the best back in the league in several years and that is saying something. Hurd doesn't even make my top 5 backs in the SEC list right now.
Drake Jackson's fall from the Rivals 250
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If those guys are saying they'd take Hurd over Chubb then you can add me to the list as well. Cuz dude it isn't even close. Chubb might be the best back in the league in several years and that is saying something. Hurd doesn't even make my top 5 backs in the SEC list right now.
You said he missed 3 games to injuries, backtracking makes you sound like you are making it up as you go. I would get it right before I would start arguing about it.
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Interesting TN/GA discussion taking over this thread.
I'm pretty sure Jackson is just as good a player now as he was 3 months ago.
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I'd say the offers back that up
No kidding....
And that's after I remember reading how Drake was dominating against some of the top D-Lineman recruits in the nation. They said Drake is a true technician because he's slightly undersized.
So, kinda like him missing 3 games was made up by you? I guess that is what some would call an out and out lie as well, don't you think?
Kentucky's recruiting class rankings by the following services
247...... 2016 - 15 2015 - 38 2014 - 23
ESPN..2016 - 23 2015 - 43 2014 - 20
Rivals..2016 - 15 2015 - 35 2014 - 17
Yeah, Rivals really has it out for us, huh.
247...... 2016 - 15 2015 - 38 2014 - 23
ESPN..2016 - 23 2015 - 43 2014 - 20
Rivals..2016 - 15 2015 - 35 2014 - 17
Yeah, Rivals really has it out for us, huh.
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A mistake that I owned up to vs. your made up facts.
.....and you continue to be a world class deflector
How does the #2 center in country become untanked? Wouldn't a #2 player at his poaition be atleast #50 in country? That is a bunch of bologna and he is going yo use this to pancake some people! I hope he uses this as A super chip on his shoulders and lets the evaluaters of talent eat their words!!
No, you didn't won up to it, I told you your site said he played in 12 games, nothing is being deflected, so you actually have things reversed.
I didnt get a chance to read "war room" The fact is if Drake was BAMA, OSU, UGA,LSU, ETC... COMMIT he would be top 100. He just did more then held his own against big time 5 * players over summer. He is the #2 center in country, #2 at his position. There is no logic out there that can justify him not ranked. Its all good though he will come into kentucky just smashing people off the Ball cause he will and is the Leader of this class. He will I garuntee prove every one wrong that dropped him in the Rankings. If I had alot of money I would lay it all on him doing so. Kid is NASTY one of the nastiest centers I have ever seen in highschool.
A lot of irrelevant information. I never once said Rivals had it out for us, but how do they put a player that Drake dominated at the last major event from a 3 star to the #94 player in the country and drop Drake out all together? For those of you who didn't see his answer, "Potential" was basically what he said. Why did Elam not get the same nod last class for undisputed potential? Answer? Because he didn't commit to Bama. The ranking issue isn't an anti-UK deal as much as it is all these services catering to the biggest programs with the most fans.Kentucky's recruiting class rankings by the following services
247...... 2016 - 15 2015 - 38 2014 - 23
ESPN..2016 - 23 2015 - 43 2014 - 20
Rivals..2016 - 15 2015 - 35 2014 - 17
Yeah, Rivals really has it out for us, huh.
Today, if recruits don't jump everytime a recruiting service wants them to (ie camps, etc) theyre downgraded as retribution.
Its incredible how big that industry has grown in such a small time frame. And its incredible how they keep getting away with basically blackmailing these recruits without major negative media attention.
Its incredible how big that industry has grown in such a small time frame. And its incredible how they keep getting away with basically blackmailing these recruits without major negative media attention.
Its an industry driven by all us fans. I can remember 25 years ago the only recruiting info would be a paragraph somewhere on the back page of the AJC. Then the recruiting magazines started showing up on the magazine racks. I guess they sold fast then a couple of shows started coming on TV. Forrest Davis was a big name in the recruiting industry back then, had a magazine he published and was on a recruiting show that showed up around first of Decemeber each year. Then everyone got the internet and the industry exploded with team blogs and "insiders" giving us all tidbits. Its came a long way in a relative short time. From reading about who signed with who a couple days after signing day to knowing when every kid takes a visit to any school. We made them stars.
Most guys here can't read that, so it doesn't help them lol. Anyways, I disagree with you but it's not worth getting bent out of shape over.
It's why I like 247Sports composite the best. It gives a good overall view of the recruits by every service.
Very true. Davis was big early as was Max Emfinger out of Texas and Tom something or other out of the Midwest. Just as BB recruiting stuff focuses on UK, Duke, Kansas, etc the football stuff targets the Bamas, LSUs, FSUs, etc of the world. I guess more fans there = more $ for them.
It never really dawned on me until I read your reply there were basketball info out there back then. I never saw a BB recruiting magazine, I know it isn't a big deal at UGA, but Tech had some pretty good teams back then. BB recruiting just wasn't a big deal in Georgia back then, and still really not that much today. Very few if any of the top kids come to UGA and Tech has such a small student body and many of them don't care much for sports, thus a small alumni base supporting them that it just seem profitable.
I wouldn't know anything about cramps, but good to see you are up on medical science. Does it help you?
My perception of these ratings as it applies to football is there is a whole bunch more sentiment to have a player ascend or descend in ratings based on the premium subscriber strength of the teams recruiting him.
They are less talent evaluations as they are marketing opportunities.
They are less talent evaluations as they are marketing opportunities.
Rivals puts less value on an interior guy than they do OT, especially LT. I can't remember the last G to be a 5* and I am certain no C has ever been a 5*. The point being, Rivals doesn't put as much value in a G or C as they do a T, especially a LT. Our top OL started out as a 5*, top 5 kid nationally. They decided he would be a G, then dropped a star and his ranking about 60 spots. It is their way of doing things. No matter how good a G or C prospect is, he isn't going to be rated as high as a LT is, doesn't matter if he is a better player or not.
LOL! A Tennessee fan and a Georgia fan tearing each other's guts out on the Kentucky board. Now that is what I call diversity! Kinda makes you proud, doesn't it?
Pretty much how I understand their ranking process for linemen. Also understand the value of a LT as this is typically the "Blind Side" of the QB. But for them not to put the same emphasis on the center position is under valuing the position. The center position is referred to the QB of the line. He is the one that communicates to the linemen the fronts and blocking scheme at the line of scrimmage. Lose your starting center and see how your line performs. Sometimes teams cannot get a clean snap. But for rivals it's really a trivial position and not worth rating. Again, it's not a sexy position. Put a kid at #1-2 or 3 at his position other than the interior offensive line and see where he is ranked nationally. Kickers are pretty much valued the same with these ranking systems. It's like they are of no value even though they make up a 1/3 of the game.
I have to admit, I didn't know this, but at one point Jackson was in the top 250, he performed well at camps, he should have not dropped
Personally, I don't care if he is the very last ranked player in the country, #34,568. So long as he continues to bully the 5*'s lined up in front of him, I couldn't care less. Give him a chip on his shoulder, make him mad and mean. I hope our entire team plays like they're being disrespected every year.
I like others coming here and mixing things up even if its 2 fans of other teams stating their case for their team. It's all in good jest.
I agree, a kicker will win you games and lose you games. Look at our kicker, kid can hit a 54 yarder! To me that is invaluable, you move the chains down the field and they get a stop and your kicker can hit 50 yarders consistently and can hit a 55 yard one... That changes the whole game. You have a punter that can blast the ball 50 yards or more and can put put the ball down by the goal line backing them up is so valuable to the whole game plan. Preferrable you do not want to punt or kick FG's but when you do and will be doing during the game those kicks will win you the game or cause you to lose with a short field position.
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