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Do you really think the Unforgettables' jerseys should be in the rafters?

You're a perfect example of the holier than thou attitude of some of the vets on this board. What is stupid about asking people's opinion? Am I missing something? It seems you and Bluemamba are the ones with comprehension problems. Again, I never advocated taking the jerseys down. Had you read more, you would've seen that. The question was more about should they go up. This is a discussion board. Some say no, some say yes. Christ, don't be such a jerk.
If you're not advocating taking them down, why bring it up? Pretty classless move, IMHO. What was the point in bringing it up? Unless you are just trolling, trying to start an argument. Pretty classless of you.
 
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If you're not advocating taking them down, why bring it up? Pretty classless move, IMHO. What was the point in bringing it up? Unless you are just trolling, trying to start an argument. Pretty classless of you.
Not trolling...Do you not understand the concept of a discussion board? Obviously it's an interesting topic or there wouldn't be 3 pages of posts. Read through my post history and you'll see that I'm not a troll. Not until this point did anyone accuse me of being classless or a troll. All of the sudden, some jerk comes out of the woodwork. You're flaming and being a real ass.
 
Not trolling...Do you not understand the concept of a discussion board? Obviously it's an interesting topic or there wouldn't be 3 pages of posts. Read through my post history and you'll see that I'm not a troll. Not until this point did anyone accuse me of being classless or a troll. All of the sudden, some jerk comes out of the woodwork. You're flaming and being a real ass.
You are correct. It is a message board. And my comment is, you started a classless post.
 
You started a classless post, troll or not. I'm an ass and you're a classless prick.
Why am I classless? Please explain it to me. Why is asking if the jerseys should be up there classless? You think they should others think they shouldn't. So is everyone in this thread with different opinions from you "classless pricks"?
 
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Why am I classless. Explain it to me? Why is asking if the jerseys should be up there is classless? You think they should others think they shouldn't.
Son, if I have to explain to you why discussing if jerseys that have been in the rafters 14 years should be there, nothing I will say will help you. That was one of the most beloved teams in UK history and brought us back from the dead. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't be there, is pretty classless. Must touch a nerve with you.
 
Son, if I have to explain to you why discussing if jerseys that have been in the rafters 14 years should be there, nothing I will say will help you. That was one of the most beloved teams in UK history and brought us back from the dead. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't be there, is pretty classless. Must touch a nerve with you.
Don't call me son. I'm no young buck and don't need your condescension. You must be a real joy to be around if someone has a different opinion from you. You must see a lot of classless thread topics on here too. You totally misinterpreted the thread too.
 
Son, if I have to explain to you why discussing if jerseys that have been in the rafters 14 years should be there, nothing I will say will help you. That was one of the most beloved teams in UK history and brought us back from the dead. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't be there, is pretty classless. Must touch a nerve with you.
How? They shouldn't be up there. It's just the objective truth. Now there is a precedent that any role player who is a fan favorite can get up there. Advocating for taking them down would be a waste of time, since it's not happening.
 
How? They shouldn't be up there. It's just the objective truth. Now there is a precedent that any role player who is a fan favorite can get up there. Advocating for taking them down would be a waste of time, since it's not happening.
Objective truth?? BS. It's merely your opinion. And how does it set up the precedent you put forth??I It doesn't. That was a special group and special circumstance. That group brought us back from the brink of the death penalty.
 
Objective truth?? BS. It's merely your opinion. And how does it set up the precedent you put forth??I It doesn't. That was a special group and special circumstance. That group brought us back from the brink of the death penalty.

If Mashburn is not with that group they are lucky to make the tournament. Appreciate that they stayed but if Mashburn doesn't come here we are not having this discussion
 
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If Mashburn is not with that group they are lucky to make the tournament. Appreciate that they stayed but if Mashburn doesn't come here we are not having this discussion
They needed him and he needed them. Doesn't change the fact that it was a special group. Pretty silly discussion 14 years after the fact. We're you a fan then?
 
For those who are wondering why it was only those four guys and not some of the other guys...those four were the graduating seniors on that 1992 team. As for why it took Mashburn so long to get his shirt hung up, one of the rules for jersey retirement (at least at the time) was that you must have graduated before you are eligible. So if you are a great UK player who leaves early, hope you take summer school! :D
 
Interested in hearing your opinions.
Here is my comment on the "Unforgettables". I get tired of everyone saying they weren't all that talented. They were talented basketball players who played extremely hard. They main reason they were called over achievers was to make Rick look even better for the job he did. They could all shoot the ball and knew how to play the game. That is a talent in itself. And yes there Jerseys should be in the rafters!
 
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I don't think it was a mistake & believe those jerseys have a place in the rafters.

Personally, having watched all those game, the majority from the lower arena at Rupp, I believe the story is where those guys started & where they ascended to & took the program. Those guys sat on the end of the bench to begin their careers. For all intents & purposes they looked like they would be nothing more than "human victory cigars" during their career.
From there, the work they put in under RP & Rock Oliver transformed them into key contributors on a NC contender & brought this program back from the depths much, much more quickly, in my opinion, than would've ever happened otherwise. They stuck around, when others were either leaving, or not coming.
Say what you want about my opinion, and you certainly might disagree with me. And that's ok, but I was there, and I will never forget what that team did & what meant they to the program.
 
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I don't think it was a mistake & believe those jerseys have a place in the rafters.

Personally, having watched all those game, the majority from the lower arena at Rupp, I believe the story is where those guys started & where they ascended to & took the program. Those guys sat on the end of the bench to begin their careers. For all intents & purposes they looked like they would be nothing more than "human victory cigars" during their career.
From there, the work they put in under RP & Rock Oliver transformed them into key contributors on a NC contender & brought this program back from the depths much, much quickly, in my opinion, than would've ever happened otherwise. They stuck around, when others were either leaving, or not coming.
Say what you want about my opinion, and you certainly might disagree with me. And that's ok, but I was there, and I will never forget what that team did & what meant they to the program.




Definitely the hardest working group we have seen.

The growth during that time was fun to watch.


Difficult to debate due to the enormous emotions at the time.


The only real discussion for me is that other than Pelphrey one year the group was comprised of all complimentary role players.

Miller, Hansen and Mashburn carried the torch as the primary scorers.

Guys like Brassow, Brown, Martinez and others did their part.


Being KY boys played a major role in the banner even with Woods.
 
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Mashburn made that team , they're NIT without him . You could have surrounded him with different players and still got good results . He had big coat tails , everybody involved with that team was lucky to have rode them .
 
They needed him and he needed them. Doesn't change the fact that it was a special group. Pretty silly discussion 14 years after the fact. We're you a fan then?

Probably a whole lot longer than you have been. Saw Runts play in Memorial but that's neither here nor there. How good were they the next year when Mash was still there and the unforgettables weren't. I'd say he did just fine without them
 
Probably a whole lot longer than you have been. Saw Runts play in Memorial but that's neither here nor there. How good were they the next year when Mash was still there and the unforgettables weren't. I'd say he did just fine without them
Well, you'd be wrong. I watched the Runts as well. I never said Mash wasn't great, I was just giving the Unforgettables their fair due. Are you saying they deserve no credit for bringing us back from almost dead?
 
You do know that us just barely missing the Final Four in 1992 is probably precisely why we were that much hungrier with the Mash led 1993 team that just barely missed the title game (which we would've made easily had it not been for the Michigan's Fake Five). IOW, without the Unforgettables there would be NO 1993 Final Four banner.
 
Almost every banner hanging up there was Pitino and Newton's doing. IMO they both deserve a lot of credit for that.

The Final Four banners bother me more than anything else hanging at Rupp, but whatever. Not the biggest deal.

It would look kinda strange to have just Champion and Runner-Up banners though...we have to keep the Runner-Up ones because all four are among the move beloved teams in our history (especially the 1966 'Runts).
 
Completely different team in 93 , no leftover hunger when one starter returns . Proved Mashburn was the reason that happened , we lost to Duke and Michigan after Mashburn fouled out .
 
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There are no good arguments as to why they shouldn't be.
I already gave one. Richie Farmer stole from the state of Kentucky and did federal prison time for it. Again, I'm not advocating taking them down but that sounds like a good enough argument to me for at least one of them
 
Son, if I have to explain to you why discussing if jerseys that have been in the rafters 14 years should be there, nothing I will say will help you. That was one of the most beloved teams in UK history and brought us back from the dead. Anyone that thinks they shouldn't be there, is pretty classless. Must touch a nerve with you.
24years
 
Objective truth?? BS. It's merely your opinion. And how does it set up the precedent you put forth??I It doesn't. That was a special group and special circumstance. That group brought us back from the brink of the death penalty.
It's not an opinion. They are easily the worst players out of everyone who is up there, by a very big margin. The only reason they are up there is because they are a bunch of local boys who played on a team people are fond of. That's not debatable. They never won anything and some of those guys weren't even very big contributors to that team. The honor should be reserved for the best individual players and coaches. Like I said, I don't mind recognizing the team in some way, but those specific guys shouldn't be up there.
 
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It's not an opinion. They are easily the worst players out of everyone who is up there, by a very big margin. The only reason they are up there is because they are a bunch of local boys who played on a team people are fond of. That's not debatable. They never won anything and some of those guys weren't even very big contributors to that team. The honor should be reserved for the best of the best.
And that is YOUR OPINION! They brought back from almost the death penalty and THAT is not debatable. They deserve the honor. And no matter how much you whine, they will stay in the rafters!
 
And that is YOUR OPINION! They brought back from almost the death penalty and THAT is not debatable. They deserve the honor. And no matter how much you whine, they will stay in the rafters!
Id say it's very debatable how responsible some of those guys were to the team's success. Whatever, this isn't an argument anymore, your like a kid covering his ears and screaming the same thing over and over again when he's having a tantrum. Enjoy dying on that hill.
 
Id say it's very debatable how responsible some of those guys were to the team's success. Whatever, this isn't an argument anymore, your like a kid covering his ears and screaming the same thing over and over again when he's having a tantrum. Enjoy dying on that hill.
And you're arguing about something that was settled 24 years ago. So, keep whining son.
 
Hoskins - Lost cause. This guy doesn't get it. No one is saying the banners should be taken down. He can't understand that. My point for starting thread was that I wanted to hear people's opinions on if the jerseys should've gone up. He's attacking everyone with a
well, 24 years ago, when the Jerseys went into the rafters, I'd bet 95%+ of UK fans agreed with the decision. And I'd bet most UK fans still feel that way. But you and Hoskins can keep whining for another 24 years if it makes you feel better.
 
I'm not arguing that they should be taken down. and I'm not disputing what those guys did for the program. You're really missing the point. You also don't seem to understand the death penalty in college sports. There seems to be a lot of people on both sides of the discussion in this very thread. You already admitted you didn't read the thread. This is just a friendly theoretical discussion, but you made it personal.
 
Hey it beats debating political and religious stuff...that never seems to go over too well (mainly because most have already heard the standard arguments on each side of most every issue).

Not to mention with sports debates you may hear points from either side that maybe are very seldom if ever brought up.
 
Id say it's very debatable how responsible some of those guys were to the team's success. Whatever, this isn't an argument anymore, your like a kid covering his ears and screaming the same thing over and over again when he's having a tantrum. Enjoy dying on that hill.

You obviously weren't watching the games in those years.
 
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