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Did Stoops lose the Kentucky faithful tonight?

Exactly this! Would you rather be 6-6 and have a team that played like "sleep inducing" Iowa or 6-6 and have a team that plays like Tennessee or Ole Miss? I know what I'm choosing. Why do so many UK fans just assume that exciting football equals losing football? Is it because of Hal Mumme? Is that their only rationale?
You don’t get it. Sure, we are just a touch better than we used to be. In the real college football world, which I guess you never visited, we are irrelevant. The program, fans, deserves better than the product that is being produced. I am guessing you would be someone that hangs on Cal’s BS too. You want better, expect better.
 
Also, UK is not a football school, Cal was right, I know that hurts Stoops feelings. It's hard to win and maintain winning. That being said, I think there is a lot of coaches out there that can win 6 or 7 wins a year at UK, (considering you play 4 guaranteed wins) and for half the price.
the challenge is its so hard to be good at both. Occasionally you'll get a football school that has a good 2 or 3 year run in basketball but inevitably the slide back into form.

You can come up with the reasons why but the powerhouse programs do not have continuous success in basketball and football
 
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It’s odd. There are very few people that I have resented wearing Blue and White and representing the Flagship University. I can think of three players, basketball and football, and two Coaches. Stoops is marching his way into that line. He needs to pony up.
 
Also, UK is not a football school, Cal was right, I know that hurts Stoops feelings. It's hard to win and maintain winning. That being said, I think there is a lot of coaches out there that can win 6 or 7 wins a year at UK, (considering you play 4 guaranteed wins) and for half the price.
I definitely agree with this!
 
Unfortunately I'm in the same frame of mind with Stoops as I am with Cal now.

I've lost faith in both of them. Both have used up every ounce of goodwill they had. I believe both are hugely overpaid, fat, happy and entrenched in our program. Evansville was the end for Cal, last night was the end for Stoops. I won't listen to another word that comes out of their mouths, they can both put up or shut up.

It's not a fun place to be - both are going to remain here for years to come.
 
I don't really believe in "turning points" to be honest.

1. Teams have improved that UK has consistently beaten. USCjr is better last year than they were under Muschamp. Mizzou has improved as well.
2. UK fell back last year....,mainly due to special teams and offense under Scangerello.
3. I'd argue this year.....the offense still isn't good enough even with Coen. We have a one dimensional run game and that is it......very bad passing offense again. I'd argue Woodard has been a shitty WR coach (last year was brutal unit as well).

In the end, SEC is a tough gig for a UK coach. All programs expect to beat UK and it's hard to climb up over UGA, Tenn has found the right guy probably....and Mizzou, USC, etc will not sit back an let coaches lose. They'll fire and start over.
We keep going thru WR coaches. And always pin the struggles of that room on them! At some point something else is the cause! QB/WR have struggled since stoops has been here. Non seem comfortable, and I don't believe Leary all at once just forgot how to play QB.

A opinion, stoops always builds his offense around defense and the run game. Once he builds his offense around the QB/WR and allows them to get into a rhythm and stay in a rhythm thru out the year, that's maybe why all our QB will only develop into a game manager at best!
 
You actually just watched Fox News last night instead of football or UK. I can't imagine something worse than that.
Just spent some time dwelling on and praying for all the innocent people over in Israel / Gaza. Thought that would be a better use of my time last night. Instead of getting mad at the TV because of sports, I got mad and sad due to humanity.
 
The season is over for all intents and purposes, but I’m sure my dumbass will be back planning my Saturday around it again for the UT game, convincing myself we can beat UT.

I know I'm just a "loserville" fan as you all like to say. But why do you say the season is over?? You are 5-2, you have a bad Miss State team, a SC and UL teams you've dominated the past few years, and a Tenn team you've had success against as well. Is 8-4 or 9-3 a bad season now?? I'd take 9-3 every year at UL from now until forever.
 
We keep making bowl games and winning 7-9 games he’s gonna be here as long as he wants. Not saying I’m happy about it, but you are out of touch if you think his seat is anywhere near hot.
I haven’t said to fire him, all I said was has he reached his peak, which he absolutely has. Stoops is here as long as he wants to be
 
I know I'm just a "loserville" fan as you all like to say. But why do you say the season is over?? You are 5-2, you have a bad Miss State team, a SC and UL teams you've dominated the past few years, and a Tenn team you've had success against as well. Is 8-4 or 9-3 a bad season now?? I'd take 9-3 every year at UL from now until forever.
Kentucky hasn’t had any success against Tennessee, they own us. As for the other 3 games you mentioned Kentucky is losing games to teams they use to dominate, scar Mizzou vandy Louisville. Kentucky isn’t winning those consistently the past 2 years. Most likely I see Kentucky getting one of those and going 6-6
 
It’s odd. There are very few people that I have resented wearing Blue and White and representing the Flagship University. I can think of three players, basketball and football, and two Coaches. Stoops is marching his way into that line. He needs to pony up.
No disrespect, but if you think Stoops hasn’t earned full respect then you are ignorant about our football past. Doesn’t mean you cant criticize him, but her certainly hasn’t earned resentment with what he’s done here.
 
The fans pack Commonwealth Stadium and do their part. The team and coaches play scared and get destroyed at UGA. Then Stoops chimes in with the "pony up" comment and in one fell stroke throws his players under the bus and blames fans for not giving enough money. Then this dog vomit of a game. Yeah fans aren't too pleased.
Can’t imagine it sat well with players either. A huge mistake.
 
You don’t get it. Sure, we are just a touch better than we used to be. In the real college football world, which I guess you never visited, we are irrelevant. The program, fans, deserves better than the product that is being produced. I am guessing you would be someone that hangs on Cal’s BS too. You want better, expect better.
You clearly didn’t read or bother to understand my post. My comment was only regarding style of play and why some UK fans think having an exciting up tempo offense means we can’t win more than 4-5 games a year.

The current product is unacceptable and un watchable. My point was, if the product is going to be unacceptable, at least make it fun to watch. I do expect better! I also expect better reading comprehension on the part of posters.
 
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I know I'm just a "loserville" fan as you all like to say. But why do you say the season is over?? You are 5-2, you have a bad Miss State team, a SC and UL teams you've dominated the past few years, and a Tenn team you've had
I know I'm just a "loserville" fan as you all like to say. But why do you say the season is over?? You are 5-2, you have a bad Miss State team, a SC and UL teams you've dominated the past few years, and a Tenn team you've had success against as well. Is 8-4 or 9-3 a bad season now?? I'd take 9-3 every year at UL from now until forever.
You’re probably right, but the past two weeks were demoralizing and embarrassing efforts that make you question whether you should continue to plan your Saturdays around 20 yr olds playing a game lol. It was that bad.

With that being said I’ll be back for Tennessee lmao
 
Also, UK is not a football school, Cal was right, I know that hurts Stoops feelings. It's hard to win and maintain winning. That being said, I think there is a lot of coaches out there that can win 6 or 7 wins a year at UK, (considering you play 4 guaranteed wins) and for half the price.
Jon Sumrall is now 17-4 at Troy he would get 6-7 wins a year at UK for half what Stoops gets and it be a team running more than 53 freakin plays a Game.
 
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For a long time, I have been all-in for Stoops. I like a lot of things about him, but I want him to know a few things (which typing it here wont make true, but, you know, its what I've got.)

I don't know these players, so I don't know what kind of guys they are, but; they wear the uniform of my university, which means they represent me. When I watch them play, I see undisciplined thugs who are much more interested in running their mouths than playing sound football.

This team is hard to like because they don't look likeable people. Why is this the case, coach? I mean it, why does the team wearing blue remind me of teams that wore red in years past in the way they behave.

Unfortunately, losing isn't new here. Not fielding a team that I respect is different and unsustainable.
This is absolutely spot on, IMHO
 
The season rides on the UT game. Lose that and we will be mailing it in for the season. Some guys seemed to be not giving it their all tonight down the stretch

The problem is we are stuck with stoops because he is so far priced out of the market for his abilities. At least someone could scoop up cal based on his long resume of winning in the reg season.
It’s a vicious cycle. Bad offense leads to defense being on field way too long, leading to sloppiness, fatigue, resentment. We’re not to a level where our 3rd stringers can hang for long.
 
I was there and certainly did not hear any booing. But that was a really crappy performance by Kentucky, got outscored 38-7 in the last 3 quarters, and 18-0 in the 4th quarter, when we actually had the lead at the end of the 3rd quarter.

OT a bit, but Leary was really wildly overrated.
Plain as day on TV
 
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My thing is, why did people think we were winning this game? Missouri beat a ranked Kansas State squad earlier in the year and had better QB play than we do. I thought this year they had our number.

Not defending Stoops with that, though, because it's downright ridiculous how much he can't recruit the QB position consistently in his time here.
It's not about him recruiting a qb...it's his REFUSAL to run a offense that is high octane and believes that EVERY possession is about scoring and not running a four corners offense that keeps us from getting a high caliber qb.
 
He’s lost me for the shenanigans he lets his players get away with on the field. I can’t stand the constant talking and the senseless penalties. I actually turned the game off early when the game was close for that reason. And I’ve never done that before
 
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It’s a combination of things . Being a fan is supposed to b fun. You can lose and still have had fun if your team played well.

However, the last two games were embarrassing to watch . On one play while we were on offense i told my wife as they lined up “ no one is blocking number 13 . He s going to cream our QB which he did untouched .
Then the penalties . Then the new rule shortening the number of plays so the guy in the red hat can stop the game for no reason while you are pissed off at dumb mistakes our overpaid coaches and undisciplined players have made .

someone above stated if you leave now you must be mentally weak, actually the opposite is true . You are only investing your time and money to enjoy the product in the limited time you have on this earth . Why waste it on overpaid incompetent coaches and undisciplined players .

Find something else to do with your time and money . That is not being mentally weak it’s being smart .
 
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I don't think Stoops helped himself after the Georgia game with his NIL talk about fans giving more NIL . I agree with the constant talking and the senseless penalties. If you make a good play on defense stop with all the trash talking and getting penalized for it !

I have been watching /listing to UK football games for over 50 years now and I know it won't go over well with some of our fans but we are not going to beat Tenn. I wish UK could but I don't see it happening this year.

I wonder if this NIL (and i consider it play for pay) has players not caring that much for the school they play for ? Thought on this as I would like your opinions on that.
 
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