Diallo scheduled to play 5 on 5 at combine

[KingOfBBN]

Monk and Fox both said Diallo made them better...

And why do you care about the "resources" the kid used? UK has plenty.

Yeah, it was practice that did it in January. Fox and Monk were totally not that good before Diallo came to practice in January.

I pointed out his quotes in the other thread that he mislead everyone. He used UK.

And why do you get so sensitive when someone isn't a cheerleader for every decision?

 

[brianpoe]

Yeah, it was practice that did it in January. Fox and Monk were totally not that good before Diallo came to practice in January.

I pointed out his quotes in the other thread that he mislead everyone. He used UK.

And why do you get so sensitive when someone isn't a cheerleader for every decision?

He's not coming back. He has known he was going to do this for awhile.

Diallo wasnt better than Brad Calipari?

He may very well be gone. But who didnt think he wasnt going to be evaluated?

Is it misleading if he is offered a guaranteed 1st round pick? I'd be gone too. I think it becomes a shady deal if he stays without the guarantee knowing he is a 2nd rounder.

I'm not a cheerleader, I will be frustrated if he leaves as the #1 pick this year much less 2nd round.

The crying and whining over something that has yet to happen is a bit weird.

 

[Poetax]

I hope he kills and becomes a lotto pick. I want players who actually want to play games at UK.

So I bet you're not a fan of the OAD player. Did you really like the Tubby come and play 4 years for me and reach the Sweet 16. Oh I forgot, those guys LOVED Kentucky.

 

[Poetax]

One of the things I took note of in the 30 for 30 was the sort of outsider, poverty mentality that has fueled Cal his whole career. What I mean by that is that there is a sense that he's not part of the tribe, that at any point he may be excluded from the tribe, and that you should take what the tribe has to offer you today before it discovers you're not part of it and kicks you out. This, in some cases is good because you don't lose sight of what you need to survive long-term, but it also could lead to some shortsighted decision-making.

Before I watched the documentary, I had a couple different theories about why he pushed out the door so fast. One was that he needed to be seen as a players' coach so it was really marketing so that he could continue to recruit at a high level. The other theory I had was that he was really only chasing stars so by pushing them out the door he had more slots to bring in other potential stars. I now lean toward the more kind theory that says he believes this is what is best for the kids. But that doesn't mean that he always knows best, nor does any coach.

So when Roy Williams time and again convinces a kid to stick around for an extra year, it's clear that's in Roy's best interest. When Cal convinces a kid like Daniel Orton to leave to take late 1st round money, he believes it's in the kid's best interest, but it's possible that's not true. It's possible that his particular worldview is great for some kids and damaging for others. Daniel Orton might've developed far enough in his sophomore season that not only would he have been chosen higher, but he also would've been better prepared to contribute right away and would've scored more than 143 points total in his NBA career and wouldn't be playing in Lebanon now.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think it's as zero-sum as many people do. There are a wide range of outcomes in any decision and while there's no question that in most cases Cal is doing what's best for the player, it's also possible that in some cases his worldview influences him to push something that's both worse for the player and UK. I'm glad that he's done that because if he kept 1-2 more players a year, it would be terrifying to go up against you, but that's just not how he sees the world.

Cal was the most shocked of anybody when Orton left. He has mentioned it many times that I remember.

 

[Poetax]

No risk? You dont think Diallo kept us from landing another top guard? You may need to start using those "functioning cognitive skills" you speak of...stay off twitter and quit listening to coach speak.

Name the guards that we were after when we signed Diallo?

 

[Poetax]

I guess we shouldnt care about our program huh? Players first....one and done, none and done...btw...you probably wear Big Baller Brand!

Before Cal, where were your big blue feelings at about winning games?

 

[Poetax]

I am saying when he committed it could have scared other top guards off in the class, how does that not make sense? Its common sense. Should he not return...THATS A RISK....and it blew up in Cals face. Theres no need to name the recruit he cost us...two top shooting guards dont usually go to the same school. So I guess u think him being a top 10 recruit at the guard position, saying he was coming back to play next year didnt make other top guards look elsewhere? wow

Just name the guards that we wanted and missed on at the time he signed with UK and I'll admit you were right. Waiting?

 

[Poetax]

He's not coming back. He has known he was going to do this for awhile.

He did, he said he would get evaluated at the end of the season, at least he didn't lie. He could have said I will not look at the draft after the season. That would have been bad.

 

[Blue Decade]

Who cares at this point?

Uh, everyone.

 

[Blue Decade]

If Diallo goes in the 20's it will be a miraculous turnaround.

Both of his previous coaches were adamant that he wasn't ready for college much less the NBA.

Scouts came in bulk to see him a couple of times this past year and all left unimpressed...supposedly (of course this could be coming from a bitter coach who just lost his star player).

The 5 on 5 will be very telling.

All that said... Gary Parrish is always looking for hits and BBN is his bread and butter.

This is well said, and covers just about everything. From the beginning, Diallo and Calipari were transparent about what he would do. Like most basketball players who sign with Kentucky, Diallo wants to be an NBA player. That isn't news. He must decide whether he would be better off in this draft or the next draft. He has entered the evaluation process without an agent so he can evaluate his draft stock and keep his options open. He has said that he wants to play a year of college basketball. What he is doing now in the evaluation process has Calipari's public support. But since he hasn't been through the full evaluation process yet, he likely hasn't made a final decision. That will come later this month. We will know by the last week of this month, so there isn't much point in people getting upset about it now.

 

[Aike]

Really dont understand why you can not grasp this situation?

Every school would have taken Diallo. He was not projected to go pro this year.

He could have committed and stayed at home or commit and come early to work on his game and get acclimated.

Any coach with a sane mind would love to have kids get a semester head start.

And yes there were no other elite guards, Diallo committed AFTER them. Again everyone but you knows this?

I know you know this, but you are debating with a Duke troll who clearly likes to stir things up.

 

[GonzoCat90]

The he wasted time and resources. Is there a reason why you're a constant apologist for everything? No matter what it is, you're a sunshine pumper and then insult those who dare not slurp up everything.

To prove he wasted time, you'd have to believe we focused more time on him than on other players on the roster and therefore cost in their development, namely Monk since he's the only guy at that spot who hadn't been here previous years.

So do you think our coaches spent time and effort on working with Diallo, who told them he wasn't playing this year, over Monk, who was conference player of the year?

I'm not an apologist or a sunshine pumper. If it sounds like it, it's because so many of you have such awful, miserable, incorrect takes. Notice none of them can back up anything they say with anything except their feelings? That means you're wrong.

Meanwhile, we have direct quotes, consistent behavior, and even common sense, that make it highly likely that those complaining are upset that we're losing a good player if he goes, or that they simply don't like Cal or the one and done approach and see this as a chance to vent.

 

[JFCats22]

NBA exec says Diallo is by far best athlete at the combine.

He's not returning to UK.

 

[Dinai]

Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
One NBA executive believes that Kentucky's Hamidou Diallo is without question the best athlete at the combine. Something to monitor. #BBN

He's gone.

 

[Aike]

So an anonymous NBA executive says that Diallo is the best athlete at the combine (which hasn't started yet) and that means he's gone?

I don't know guys, kind of feel like this deserves it's own thread.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

He's now at 24 in one mock draft.

 

[Cardsstink]

NBA exec says Diallo is by far best athlete at the combine.

He's not returning to UK.

Watch out, you'll be accused of whining by the biggest whiners on this board, LOL. Diallo is starting to look like a cool, calculating maestro that used the UK name. Bet Cal doesn't do that again.

 

[Aike]

He's now at 24 in one mock draft.

Draft Express has dropped him from 33 to 36. We could do this all day.

 

[Bluesnky]

He's now at 24 in one mock draft.

Which mock?

 

[BlueDevilWildcat]

To prove he wasted time, you'd have to believe we focused more time on him than on other players on the roster and therefore cost in their development, namely Monk since he's the only guy at that spot who hadn't been here previous years.

So do you think our coaches spent time and effort on working with Diallo, who told them he wasn't playing this year, over Monk, who was conference player of the year?

I'm not an apologist or a sunshine pumper. If it sounds like it, it's because so many of you have such awful, miserable, incorrect takes. Notice none of them can back up anything they say with anything except their feelings? That means you're wrong.

Meanwhile, we have direct quotes, consistent behavior, and even common sense, that make it highly likely that those complaining are upset that we're losing a good player if he goes, or that they simply don't like Cal or the one and done approach and see this as a chance to vent.

Lol, I love how your narrative has changed as it's become more clear that Diallo will never play at UK. Pretty sure people are venting at the one and NONE approach.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Lol, I love how your narrative has changed as it's become more clear that Diallo will never play at UK. Pretty sure people are venting at the one and NONE approach.

What is my narrative and how has it changed?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Which mock?

Gary Parrish I think. Didn't know he had one.

 

[Cardsstink]

Lol, I love how your narrative has changed as it's become more clear that Diallo will never play at UK. Pretty sure people are venting at the one and NONE approach.

He and a few other clowns want exact dates, names and times as well as transcripts from phone calls and texts, and, if possible, the actual cell phones for verification..... They know you can't provide any of that but they also know Diallo quite possibly used UK but they'll never admit it because they take "Homer" to a new level.

 

[Aike]

Quite the troll infestation this spring. Maybe a byproduct of our abnormally mild winter?

 

[Dablueman]

He's not coming back. He has known he was going to do this for awhile.

Thats the point learn to read. He lied to no one. He, Cal, and the fan base all knew this was what was going to happen. They told us all they were very open.

Brian Poe is not a sunshine pumper I have seen him take many unflattering points over the years. Every post he makes he makes using the same information that I and every one else who took the time to be informed about what the process was going to be. So he can't understand why you and some posters refuse to pay attention to what is being said making a believable counter argument and presenting why you have the opinion that you do. Instead you and a few others just say ur just a sunshine pumper you guys just can't handle anyone being negative about Cal. That just means I can't argue back your a big meanie I'm right lol

 

[Dablueman]

Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
One NBA executive believes that Kentucky's Hamidou Diallo is without question the best athlete at the combine. Something to monitor. #BBN

He's gone.

By far? Better than say monk? Bam? Several others maybe better or even but not by far. When had he seen him?

 

[oldlewisville99]

I just wish Cal would say something regarding Diallo. Maybe an impending commitment will be all we need to hear. When is the scheduled 5-on-5?

 

[Strip club lover]

Just because he is the best athlete doesn't mean he is going to shoot up in the rankings. Basketball requires shooting, passing, dribbling, rebounding.... well you all get hate picture. Poythress was a freak athlete, was great for a sixth man type role, but wasn't exactly a player that dominated most games.

Look we can debate all day but I wouldn't put much stock in tweets or mock drafts. I personally think that he is just doing the combine to get feed back on what to work on. I think he comes to UK but if he doesn't then getting Johnson and Bamba will be a must.

 

[Cardsstink]

I wouldn't put any stock in tweets about Diallo because UK is hated by many and they'd love to see him stay in the draft. Not saying this guy is taking that angle but nothing can be trusted regarding tweets and opinions from outsiders on Diallo.

 

[BoxterS]

So I bet you're not a fan of the OAD player. Did you really like the Tubby come and play 4 years for me and reach the Sweet 16. Oh I forgot, those guys LOVED Kentucky.

Spot on. It takes the best players to win it, and these days the best players are one and done. Amazing how anyone would want to go back to the Tubby 3-star days, not to mention Tubby only won one national title.

 

[Poetax]

Spot on. It takes the best players to win it, and these days the best players are one and done. Amazing how anyone would want to go back to the Tubby 3-star days, not to mention Tubby only won one national title.

That was my point, sarcasm.

 

[BoxterS]

That was my point, sarcasm.

Sorry, just drives me crazy that anyone would prefer the days of Tubby. I mean Tubby has just one title. Cal is way better

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Sorry, just drives me crazy that anyone would prefer the days of Tubby. I mean Tubby has just one title. Cal is way better

Cal is way better you goofy troll.

 

[Jkwo]

By far? Better than say monk? Bam? Several others maybe better or even but not by far. When had he seen him?

Monk isn't there, IIRC.

So yeah, it doesn't surprise me if Diallo is clearly the best.

Bam is a high level athlete for a big, but that's not the same standard as a shooting guard.

But more importantly, none of that is new.

A shooting guard who shoots in high school like freshman Bricoe did - yet he's top 10 in his class. That's almost entirely because of his unbelievable physical gifts.

I doubt it'll surprise all that many people at the combine who had already done their homework.

 

[JerseyCat84]

I just wish Cal would say something regarding Diallo. Maybe an impending commitment will be all we need to hear. When is the scheduled 5-on-5?

welp

 

[Jkwo]

Sorry, just drives me crazy that anyone would prefer the days of Tubby. I mean Tubby has just one title. Cal is way better

Kevin Ollie and Tom Izzo have the same number of Titles, you simpleton.

 

[BoxterS]

Kevin Ollie and Tom Izzo have the same number of Titles, you simpleton.

Yep, lots of guys out there with just 1 title.

 

[floatingyou]

But you're a better poster and person because you name call anyone that doesn't agree with you. You're sooooooo tough, but oh so wrong. I love Cal, just think he really bungled this Diallo situation. Its ok to not think Cal is perfect. I'd be willing to bet you're a liberal with a capital L...whiny cry babies that throw fits when they dont get their way or someone doesnt agree with em.

Well I would say you couldn't be more wrong on calling me a liberal but it's you, wrong is pretty much you're strong suit. I'm not throwing fit because you disagree, I'm making fun of you for having dumb opinions like you don't even want Hami back if he decides to come back. And don't act like I'm the only one. Pretty much everyone on here calls you out on your idiotic takes You're soft, it's not your decision. You're the one acting like a Liberal, you are soft. It's the kids decision, not yours. He has always said he would test the waters. Quit bitching

 

[EMMCAT]

Well I would say you couldn't be more wrong on calling me a liberal but it's you, wrong is pretty much you're strong suit. I'm not throwing fit because you disagree, I'm making fun of you for having dumb opinions like you don't even want Hami back if he decides to come back. And don't act like I'm the only one. Pretty much everyone on here calls you out on your idiotic takes You're soft, it's not your decision. You're the one acting like a Liberal, you are soft. It's the kids decision, not yours. He has always said he would test the waters. Quit bitching

I hate the NBA's interfering with an individual's right to sell his services at any age. Baseball , tennis and soccer have no rule preventing a talented individual from selling his services at any age. Basketball (the NBA) used to permit signings out of high school (LBJ,Garnett, Moses Malone, Billy Willoughby , a UK signee, Kobe, multiple others.) Why not Diallo? I know that is a separate issue from his "using" UK. I just hate the NBA's rule.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Cal was the most shocked of anybody when Orton left. He has mentioned it many times that I remember.

I don't think he's mentioned him specifically by name but I think he said there have been 4 or 5 that left against his advice. Most of us assume that Orton was on that list, as well as Teague.