Diallo scheduled to play 5 on 5 at combine
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I am saying when he committed it could have scared other top guards off in the class, how does that not make sense? Its common sense. Should he not return...THATS A RISK....and it blew up in Cals face. Theres no need to name the recruit he cost us...two top shooting guards dont usually go to the same school. So I guess u think him being a top 10 recruit at the guard position, saying he was coming back to play next year didnt make other top guards look elsewhere? wow
Bingo!! Only real fans of Kentucky understand your point.
I'm saying there are no other "top guards" we were after so he didn't cost us anything. He has been our target and priority for a long time. It wasn't either Diallo or someone else. The only other SG we were ever after was Lonnie Walker, and he popped for Miami well before Diallo decided anything.
We can, without debate, say that Diallo didn't cost us another elite SG, because there were no other elite SGs.
This is what you want to think it true because you hate Cal. You're a moron. There top guards were after and he got here mid-season. Special case. Your stupidity and hate for Cal are next level stuff
But you're a better poster and person because you name call anyone that doesn't agree with you. You're sooooooo tough, but oh so wrong. I love Cal, just think he really bungled this Diallo situation. Its ok to not think Cal is perfect. I'd be willing to bet you're a liberal with a capital L...whiny cry babies that throw fits when they dont get their way or someone doesnt agree with em.
At this point, I'd settle for Kentucky fans just cheering for Kentucky and its coach and players.
No that's not an agenda statement at all. You have consistently been an extremely negative poster for quite awhile. Yes there were no guarantees with offering Diablo a scholarship but there wasn't anything lose other than the respect of trolls and flames who never respected him in the first place.
Hate to say it but there wouldn't be many that wouldn't go straight to the league if they could. Those days are over.
So you're saying Cal wouldn't have gone after and landed a really good shooting guard if Diallo never came here? Who do you think you're kidding?
You're good at setting up a straw man and then knocking him down. But you're right, it was Diallo or bust at shooting guard. We werent going to recruit anybody at 2 guard if he didn't come.
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This isn't even a little bit complicated. If there were other elite two guards still on the board after Diallo came to UK, name them.
This isn't a trick.
If you can name them, reasonable people will concur that we might have missed on them by taking Diallo.
Like you could argue that we missed on Allen last year by waiting on Bolden.
Or you could argue that we would have been better off talking Bryant the year before over Skal, hindsight being 20-20.
So just name the guy we missed on by taking Diallo. I have no problem discussing that point, if you can give a name.
This isn't a trick.
If you can name them, reasonable people will concur that we might have missed on them by taking Diallo.
Like you could argue that we missed on Allen last year by waiting on Bolden.
Or you could argue that we would have been better off talking Bryant the year before over Skal, hindsight being 20-20.
So just name the guy we missed on by taking Diallo. I have no problem discussing that point, if you can give a name.
Isn't it entirely possible that there were no other top guards we were after BECAUSE he went after Diallo? It seems in the last 2-3 years that recruits have 'played' Calipari. He did say at one point "next man up", but maybe he was talking about in-game, dunno. I think he gets to invested in certain players, resulting in the played out drama that we're seeing.
When I say because I mean that maybe he went all-in on a player that he though wouldn't come here if that player had to compete for playing time. To make matters worse, it appears that the player didn't want to play here in the first place. That's if you go off his comments since entering the draft.
You're right. Cals plan was to land Diallo or go with a 3-forward one guard lineup. Have I entered the twilight zone. Where is Serling?
I am curious what Cal's backup plan was if he thought there was a chance Diallo would leave.Jamarl Baker has talent but I don't think he's ready to start.I think Shai is going to see many minutes backing up green.He didn't seem to go after Mark Smith very hard.Johnson is really not a 2 and I would imagine he would struggle playing defense.So if Diallo leaves IMO our guard play will struggle.
You're right. Cals plan was to land Diallo or go with a 3-forward one guard lineup. Have I entered the twilight zone. Where is Serling?
Yeah, it's pretty funny that a few of you continue with this dopey line of thought.
Hilarious that you can't name one name to support your point.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
Yet you clearly can't get enough of us.
Every time you post what you said the other day makes more and more sense. You know about not having a wife or kids or ever been anyone's boss.
Not all, thousands upon thousands went to or go to school there. Do you have any real connection?
Your straw man angle is so weak. If you don't think we would have landed a better shooting guard than a grad transfer had Diallo never been in the mix, you're just clueless. Good lord, dude. How much if a lack of recruiting understanding can you possibly display?? Have the last word. I won't read it as your "reasoning" makes a person dumber.
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Facts are the facts.
This was not a strong SG class and we were in on the #1 and any others considered "elite" committed BEFORE Diallo, so it really isn't a straw man argument at all.
You might be able to argue that a top 25 to 75 shooting guard out there somewhere was still available. Who knows? But the argument is invalid without any names attached to it.
Just a mock draft but interesting
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbss...ould-snag-kentuckys-none-and-done-diallo/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbss...ould-snag-kentuckys-none-and-done-diallo/amp/
If Diallo stays in the draft and Johnson signs, he gets first crack at the 2, IMHO.
Not saying he will be successful at that spot (he will have to improve his defense), just saying he will get the chance.
We will need Johnson on the floor on the offensive side, so he might start even if he can't defend very well. Much like Willis, his shooting will cover up some for his defensive deficiencies.
But, keep in mind that Cal wants to switch screens and if Johnson can't defend every position he will probably struggle to stay on the floor regardless of where he plays. If he plays at the 3 and can't handle guarding 1's and 2's on switches, then our defense will break down.
It will be interesting to watch it unfold.
Not saying he will be successful at that spot (he will have to improve his defense), just saying he will get the chance.
We will need Johnson on the floor on the offensive side, so he might start even if he can't defend very well. Much like Willis, his shooting will cover up some for his defensive deficiencies.
But, keep in mind that Cal wants to switch screens and if Johnson can't defend every position he will probably struggle to stay on the floor regardless of where he plays. If he plays at the 3 and can't handle guarding 1's and 2's on switches, then our defense will break down.
It will be interesting to watch it unfold.
If Diallo goes in the 20's it will be a miraculous turnaround.
Both of his previous coaches were adamant that he wasn't ready for college much less the NBA.
Scouts came in bulk to see him a couple of times this past year and all left unimpressed...supposedly (of course this could be coming from a bitter coach who just lost his star player).
The 5 on 5 will be very telling.
All that said... Gary Parrish is always looking for hits and BBN is his bread and butter.
I agree, I think mid 20s is way too high and optimistic. Funny I wasn't really looking for anything like that but it popped up as an article.
Well I'm not a troll, flame, and I respect Cal. But if Diallo stays in the draft, I think it does reflect a bit poorly on Cal. If he knew Diallo might enter the draft w/o playing at UK, why even let him enroll in Jan? If he was told Diallo wouldn't enter the draft, and then he does, it makes Cal look naive. Personally, I think it was the latter, but Cal's not going to trash Diallo. And for the few people on this board who say "we'd all do the same thing" - no, most of us wouldn't. Loyalty, keeping your word, and doing the right thing aren't negotiable just because the paycheck is big enough.
How about this? Johnson commits to UK after Knox sells his soul to the devil. Diallo goes through the draft and returns to UK next season like he's always planned on doing. Bamba waits until Diallo announces his return and signs his letter of intent on the same day to go to UK. Consequently, all three of those events set in motion a plague that sweeps across the BBN causing everyone to go crazy from obsessing over NUMBER 9. In the end, this is what every BBN member sees 24/7 come March 2018.
*Seriously, everybody needs to relax, let things run their course and know that we'll be fine come March.
Go Big Blue!!!
*Seriously, everybody needs to relax, let things run their course and know that we'll be fine come March.
Go Big Blue!!!
Really don't understand you two. Cal is the best recruiter in the game. Why the hell would he need to compromise anything to land Diallo? Either Diallo comes to UK and plays like every other college player in history, or Cal tells him to get lost.
Are you saying that Cal had no other options at SG a year ago? Because if he didn't, that would explain why Diallo was calling the shots, but that's on Cal for not planning better.
Not sure why you two specifically are so offended by a fanbase that actually wants its players to play.
Oh, here we go with the virtue signaling. Honestly, why do we pretend to give a crap about someone else getting rich? They have their interests and we have ours.
I think the guy is a liar and a user. He never had any intentions on actually following through to play here. It's why he chose not to play.
Not going to look bad on Cal whatsoever.
Did you miss the other 1800 posts on this?
Why do you mention loyalty? Keep your word?
You have no information whatsoever. As of right now everything is still going as per the plan we knew when he arrived.
We needed a SG.
Cal took the #1 SG, let him enroll early.
There were no other elite SG's left when Diallo finally committed.
The entire world knew Diallo would enter his name and be evaluated back in January.
He was never projected to go 1st round this year, but has a great chance to be a lottery pick next year.
If he gets a guarantee to go in the 1st he will be gone. Cal will be fine, and we will suffer from his leaving.
If he doesnt get a guarantee and still goes, I'm not sure about Cal, but I'll not be pleased and we will still suffer from his leaving.
If the guarantee is not given and the kid returns we have the #1 SG with some experience going into next season and a bunch of people will look silly.
Regardless, there were no risks as to losing another player nor will Cal look bad.
And I do not believe you would turn down millions of dollars for your family just to play 30 basketball games for a school a thousand miles away from your home.
Really dont understand why you can not grasp this situation?
Every school would have taken Diallo. He was not projected to go pro this year.
He could have committed and stayed at home or commit and come early to work on his game and get acclimated.
Any coach with a sane mind would love to have kids get a semester head start.
And yes there were no other elite guards, Diallo committed AFTER them. Again everyone but you knows this?
The he wasted time and resources. Is there a reason why you're a constant apologist for everything? No matter what it is, you're a sunshine pumper and then insult those who dare not slurp up everything.
Monk and Fox both said Diallo made them better...
And why do you care about the "resources" the kid used? UK has plenty.
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