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Delphi, IN Murders

The prosecutor today said that they believe Allen didn't act alone in this crime. The judge has sealed the court documents for the time being.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
Guessing they wanted to make sure they got it right and had hard evidence that tied him to the murder scene other than his admission that he was on the trail that day. Still, it is bewildering that he admitted being there 5 years ago, and it took them this long to feel good enough about him being the guy and worthy of arrest.
 
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Guessing they wanted to make sure they got it right and had hard evidence that tied him to the murder scene other than his admission that he was on the trail that day. Still, it is bewildering that he admitted being there 5 years ago, and it took them this long to feel good enough about him being the guy and worthy of arrest.
From what I read last night, forensics determined that an unspent bullet that was left where the girls' bodies were found had been in the chamber of a gun that Allen owned. I don't know how they determine that, but that's what the unsealed affidavit said.

I think police/prosecutors were hopeful additional evidence would come in after he was arrested, since Allen could assert that he dropped the bullet days, months, or even years before the murders occurred.
 
From what I read last night, forensics determined that an unspent bullet that was left where the girls' bodies were found had been in the chamber of a gun that Allen owned. I don't know how they determine that, but that's what the unsealed affidavit said.
I'd be curious to see a Daubert hearing on that. It sounds pretty junk science-y.
 
I don’t get it either altho we are only getting part of the story. It seems like it would be fairly easy to get probable cause for a search warrant of his home with his admission he was there that day and witnesses saying they saw him leaving with bloody and muddy clothes.

Assuming the unspent round evidence was then taken after they searched his home and found the corresponding handgun that fired the same type of ammo found at the scene.

Honestly I’m just glad they got this asshole and the family gets some amount of closure when he’s convicted. It’s always better for police to take their time and make sure eveething is done properly to avoid some acehole like this getting off on a technicality.
 
Another reason to never own a cat.

  • Source says police dug up Allen's cat to match hairs found on the girls' bodies
 
Dont have a link but just saw a news piece that authorities are linking this murder to a cold case in Boone Co in 2011. It looked like it was an older couple at their home. They said every room was staged differently after the murder and the scene in Delphi was staged as well.

Oddly, they do not think the guy they have in custody now was involved with Ky murders. There were rumors that the Delphi murders had more than one suspect.
 
Dont have a link but just saw a news piece that authorities are linking this murder to a cold case in Boone Co in 2011. It looked like it was an older couple at their home. They said every room was staged differently after the murder and the scene in Delphi was staged as well.

Oddly, they do not think the guy they have in custody now was involved with Ky murders. There were rumors that the Delphi murders had more than one suspect.
That was a very well-publicized case up here in Northern Kentucky. Bill and Peggy Stephenson, a couple in their 70's, they attended Union Baptist Church and he would minister to the truck drivers at the truck stop in Florence every weekend. Killed in their home Memorial Day weekend 2011. Local police have said without elaborating that the scene was staged and they believe the killer was trying to communicate something with the staging.

If they can bring the killer of this couple to justice, that would be amazing.

Link to article: Delphi IN Murders linked to the murder of Bill and Peggy Stephenson?
 
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That was a very well-publicized case up here in Northern Kentucky. Bill and Peggy Stephenson, a couple in their 70's, they attended Union Baptist Church and he would minister to the truck drivers at the truck stop in Florence every weekend. Killed in their home Memorial Day weekend 2011. Local police have said without elaborating that the scene was staged and they believe the killer was trying to communicate something with the staging.

If they can bring the killer of this couple to justice, that would be amazing.

Link to article: Delphi IN Murders linked to the murder of Bill and Peggy Stephenson?
If a killer took that long to stage an entire house in some form or fashion, that is some serial killer type shit and more than likely not his first. Will be interesting to see if any other cases are tied to it. After 12yrs, I am kinda surprised that the "staging" info hasnt been leaked. Sad story.
 

Tuesday’s session started with additional testimony from Brian Olehy, the lead crime scene investigator on the case. Several key pieces of evidence were brought into court. Each piece was contained within a brown paper bag and was not physically shown to the jury.
So there was no DNA of Allen on the girls and the chief prosecution evidence is that they can track an unfired bullet to the gun it was supposedly cycled through without firing the bullet? I have my doubts about whether that is possible. Dude confessed to this crime and crimes that didn't exist?

Is that it? Why is the trial not televised? This isn't a federal case.

 
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https://www.indystar.com/story/news...ve-updates-richard-allen-tuesday/75810332007/

"I killed those two girls, so I have to kill myself," read Raymond Smith, an officer at Westville Correctional Facility. Smith said Allen made those statements at 7:55 p.m. on April 10, 2023.

The remark was among the many statements noted by correctional officers who were assigned to log Allen’s behavior during his time in the state prison.
 
You, me, and anyone else without training will admit to almost anything under interrogation. They put this guy in extended solitary confinement pretrial and he was apparently eating his own shit but yet competent enough to disclose intricate details of a double murder in daylight in a public place without any DNA evidence?

Consider me highly dubious. False confessions are real and a miscarriage of justice. If this prosecution is based solely upon his confessions when the physical evidence suggests he didn't do it (and I'm not saying that's what the evidence says -- just that's what the reporting of this suggests), that going to be the worst result possible.

Double jeopardy means that if this guy is acquitted, no amount of evidence discovered later will allow them to bring the same charges again. This has happened before. Look up Tim Hennis if you are curious. The police charged when they didn't have the evidence. It went to a jury and he was acquitted. 20ish years later DNA technology improved to the point that his guilt was no longer questionable. Unfortunately, those charges could not be retried so he got off scot free (with an asterisk, see below).

This looks like that.

If you are curious, Hennis did get convicted but that was only because he was a special sort of idiot. He had previously served in the army and this was during the GWOT. The army had his former sergeant or whomever call Tim up and give him the "We are getting a special team together for an impossible mission and your country needs you, son!" Dumbass signed up, not figuring out that what his country needed him to do was sign up for military service so it could get a second bite at the apple of prosecuting him for murder, but this time under the military code and not civilian law.
 
You, me, and anyone else without training will admit to almost anything under interrogation. They put this guy in extended solitary confinement pretrial and he was apparently eating his own shit but yet competent enough to disclose intricate details of a double murder in daylight in a public place without any DNA evidence?

Consider me highly dubious. False confessions are real and a miscarriage of justice. If this prosecution is based solely upon his confessions when the physical evidence suggests he didn't do it (and I'm not saying that's what the evidence says -- just that's what the reporting of this suggests), that going to be the worst result possible.

Double jeopardy means that if this guy is acquitted, no amount of evidence discovered later will allow them to bring the same charges again. This has happened before. Look up Tim Hennis if you are curious. The police charged when they didn't have the evidence. It went to a jury and he was acquitted. 20ish years later DNA technology improved to the point that his guilt was no longer questionable. Unfortunately, those charges could not be retried so he got off scot free (with an asterisk, see below).

This looks like that.

If you are curious, Hennis did get convicted but that was only because he was a special sort of idiot. He had previously served in the army and this was during the GWOT. The army had his former sergeant or whomever call Tim up and give him the "We are getting a special team together for an impossible mission and your country needs you, son!" Dumbass signed up, not figuring out that what his country needed him to do was sign up for military service so it could get a second bite at the apple of prosecuting him for murder, but this time under the military code and not civilian law.
I believe they have him admitting to his wife that he killed them. That wasn't under interrogation.
 
I believe they have him admitting to his wife that he killed them. That wasn't under interrogation.
From my understanding, it was done in front of the psychologist. I don't know how that could be not under interrogation. The psychologist is testifying about it so it must have been in front of her.

Your psychologist have you call and make admissions to your wife on a recorded line on a regular basis? Mine doesn't.
 
From my understanding, it was done in front of the psychologist. I don't know how that could be not under interrogation. The psychologist is testifying about it so it must have been in front of her.

Your psychologist have you call and make admissions to your wife on a recorded line on a regular basis? Mine doesn't.
I'm never convicted.
 
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