Thanks for that Bernie. I’ll check it out. In my heart I’ve always believed my boyhood favorite Vada Pinson should be in the Hall though my brain tells me he’s probably a little short statistically.
EDIT: looked all over the site, couldn’t find the “Hall of Fame Monitor.” I’ll check it out again later.
So I found Vada. Thanks again Bernie.Hall of Fame Monitor Leaders | Baseball-Reference.com
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I liked Pinson better than Robinson, though Robinson was obviously the better player. HOF monitor is just based on stats. Actual voters bring personal prejudices that may influence the way they feel.So I found Vada. Thanks again Bernie.
Pinson was a 95 on that scale, compared to 99 for Rolen and 87 for Ken Boyer. I guess that confirms his status as close, but no cigar. But very close.
What does piss me off is for someone that close he never got much respect at all from the HOF voters -- he stalled out with no shot. That wasn't fair.
There was a time (no longer true) that Vada Pinson had more base hits than anyone not in the Hall of Fame. That's tough.
Some stats: He had a.286 career batting average with 2,757 hits, 256 home runs, 1,169 runs batted in, and 1,365 runs scored. Pinson was selected to play in 4 All-Star Games. He also won a Gold Glove as a center fielder in 1961 -- when Willie Mays was still close to his prime and the National League was absolutely packed with great outfielders.
I was five, going on six, the year the Reds won a rare pennant in 1961, with Vada and Frank in the outfield. Man, I loved watching them play in old Crosley Field over the next few years. Everything about that era of baseball, and the Reds, remains vivid to me -- even the Reds' uniforms of that era with the white caps with red bills, the sleeveless jerseys and red undershirts. Such a classic look.I liked Pinson better than Robinson, though Robinson was obviously the better player.
My dad was a huge Reds fan, being from the hills of Kentucky, and liked Vada Pinson too. Frankie Robinson was solid but Vada had a better personality in his opinion.I liked Pinson better than Robinson, though Robinson was obviously the better player. HOF monitor is just based on stats. Actual voters bring personal prejudices that may influence the way they feel.
Really? LOL.Actual voters bring personal prejudices that may influence the way they feel.
Best part of old Crosley was the the outfield terrace. Made fools of many an outfielder. Recall an ITPHR down the LF line when the visiting LFer tripped starting after the ball & it rolled up the terrace & stopped against the wall. CFer wound up picking it up.I was five, going on six, the year the Reds won a rare pennant in 1961, with Vada and Frank in the outfield. Man, I loved watching them play in old Crosley Field over the next few years. Everything about that era of baseball, and the Reds, remains vivid to me -- even the Reds' uniforms of that era with the white caps with red bills, the sleeveless jerseys and red undershirts. Such a classic look.
I think I've said before that at my first MLB Game at Crosley in 1954 against the Bums that Klu lined one into the RF bleachers. I never saw the ball. Just the crack of the bat & seeing people jumping up & down in the bleachers. The thought of a ball traveling that far that fast boggled my still young mind.My dad was a huge Reds fan, being from the hills of Kentucky, and liked Vada Pinson too. Frankie Robinson was solid but Vada had a better personality in his opinion.
My favorite on those Reds teams was Ted Kluszewski. Big Klu had massive arms and many said when the Reds went to their cut off sleeve uniforms it was because of him
I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.Best part of old Crosley was the the outfield terrace. Made fools of many an outfielder. Recall an ITPHR down the LF line when the visiting LFer tripped starting after the ball & it rolled up the terrace & stopped against the wall. CFer wound up picking it up.
Balls flew out of it easily both because air could get thru the upper deck & its smallish dimensions. BUT, that terrace actually made the field bigger than the listed dimensions: 328 LF line, 390 CF, 393 RCR, & 366 RF line. Those are etched in my mind. Also, huge tall scoreboard created two-baggers that otherwise would have been HR's.
They tell the same story of a Ted Williams homer in Boston.I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.
So many great memories of Crosley. My dad loved baseball and it was cheap, so we probably went to 20 games a year between the ages of 6 and 14, which was my age when Crosley closed. Also, in those days the Reds had a "Straight A Tickets" program I busted my ass to qualify for, and you'd get tickets to a few random mid-week night games -- the front office probably figured might as well, non-weekend attendance was probably under 15,000 on a good night.I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.
EDIT FOR A SIDE NOTE
Crosley was steep in baseball history and was the scene of the first night game. On May 28, 1935, Babe Ruth tripped on the incline while chasing a fly ball and fell on his face. He left the field cursing and retired a few days later.
By the end of his career, Ruth was rather chubby and didn't run well. I've read the Dodger pitchers banded together and told management they would not pitch as long as Ruth was playing defense behind them. That's why he retired.I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.
EDIT FOR A SIDE NOTE
Crosley was steep in baseball history and was the scene of the first night game. On May 28, 1935, Babe Ruth tripped on the incline while chasing a fly ball and fell on his face. He left the field cursing and retired a few days later.
One footnote to that Babe Ruth yarn - Ruth was playing with a muscle pull, and the Reds hit everything at him to take advantage, according to biographies I'd read, really humiliating him.I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.
EDIT FOR A SIDE NOTE
Crosley was steep in baseball history and was the scene of the first night game. On May 28, 1935, Babe Ruth tripped on the incline while chasing a fly ball and fell on his face. He left the field cursing and retired a few days later.
I can see that. Babe Ruth was never one for being in shape and training. He was well know in the area I live and the stories the old timers would tell were great to listen to. He loved to have fun and he loved to fish. He had a fishing cabin on the Gulf about 10 miles South of where I live. A lot of beer drinking took place in that cabin so they say.By the end of his career, Ruth was rather chubby and didn't run well. I've read the Dodger pitchers banded together and told management they would not pitch as long as Ruth was playing defense behind them. That's why he retired.
Babe Ruth was a hero when kids had heroes. I am not sure they do anymore. One great thing about that era was dirty laundry was not aired in public. Today it is and is often celebrated.Babe Ruth's Final Years
George Herman "Babe" Ruth was, in pretty much everyone's opinion, the most popular and beloved baseball player of all time. Ruth played 22 years in the major leagues, hitting 714 home runs, winning seven World Series, and becoming baseball's greatest legend. But by 1936, the Babe was retired at...www.mentalfloss.com
Easily possible as you can see. I-75 today is just on the other side of that street & graded higher. Reds were still in Crosley in early years of I-75 & several balls were hit across the street & into the side of an I-75 exit ramp. Don't recall of hearing a ball getting onto I-75 proper. Downtown Cincy is about 2 miles beyond the RF bleachers. Looks like Roy McMillan at SS.I heard stories in my youth that the longest home run in history was hit out of Crosley Field. A truck was passing by Crosley Field, and somebody hit a home run out of the park, a little to the right of center, it landed in the bed of a truck and was taken alll the way to California. Probably folklore but it made a good story for a 10 year old kid like me.
EDIT FOR A SIDE NOTE
Crosley was steep in baseball history and was the scene of the first night game. On May 28, 1935, Babe Ruth tripped on the incline while chasing a fly ball and fell on his face. He left the field cursing and retired a few days later.
Speaking of Ken Boyer and Clete Boyer here are a couple of cards. Ken with The Mick at the All Star Game and Clete as a Yank.Clete Boyer. One year Clete and Ken both started at 3B in the All Star game. Another brother Claud was a pitcher, but not near the player as Clete and Ken.
I had both those cards. While I was in the military, mom gave almost all my cards to a cousin who used them to open a sports card business. I had a bunch of them. I still have the hand full they didn't see.Speaking of Ken Boyer and Clete Boyer here are a couple of cards. Ken with The Mick at the All Star Game and Clete as a Yank.
😍Babe Ruth was a hero when kids had heroes. I am not sure they do anymore. One great thing about that era was dirty laundry was not aired in public. Today it is and is often celebrated.
I doubt there has ever been a sports figure as popular as Babe Ruth was for kids. When I was a boy and started collecting cards my daddy gave me a baseball card he got in 1927 when he was 11 years old. I kept it and somehow saved it when my mama threw out all of my cards when I left home. I only managed to save a few of them. This card is 96 years old.
There is no doubt our mothers threw out or gave away thousands and thousands of dollars in today's market. One more and I will retire my baseball card posts but this is a small example. Below is my Carl Yastzemski 1960 Rookie Card. It is selling for about $400.00 on ebay depending of course on condition. Another goes for over $600.00I had both those cards. While I was in the military, mom gave almost all my cards to a cousin who used them to open a sports card business. I had a bunch of them. I still have the hand full they didn't see.
I had several Yaz rookie cards. Every time I got a little $, I bought cards/bubble gum.There is no doubt our mothers threw out or gave away thousands and thousands of dollars in today's market. One more and I will retire my baseball card posts but this is a small example. Below is my Carl Yastzemski 1960 Rookie Card. It is selling for about $400.00 on ebay depending of course on condition. Another goes for over $600.00
Mine below.
This one sells for $419.99. Mine is in pristine condition.
There is no doubt our mothers threw out or gave away thousands and thousands of dollars in today's market. One more and I will retire my baseball card posts but this is a small example. Below is my Carl Yastzemski 1960 Rookie Card. It is selling for about $400.00 on ebay depending of course on condition.
Mine below.
This one sells for $419.99. Mine is in pristine condition.
I had several Yaz rookie cards. Every time I got a little $, I bought cards/bubble gum.
Wow. Cool stuff.Love seeing the old baseball cards. I've posted several of mine on here before -- I'm the rare kid whose mother preserved them all, and I have a couple thousand. Lucky for me, my peak collecting years were 66-68 when I have virtually every Topps card, many in multiples. Probably the most valuable is this one, Nolan RYan's rookie card, of which I have a couple. One of these in "Gem" - virtually perfect - condition sold for $600,000 in 2020. My best one is not close to that, but I'd say it is still worth in the low four figures.:
Sold mine for 500 bucks back in the late 90s. Wasn't in great condition but good enough.Love seeing the old baseball cards. I've posted several of mine on here before -- I'm the rare kid whose mother preserved them all, and I have a couple thousand. Lucky for me, my peak collecting years were 66-68 when I have virtually every Topps card, many in multiples. Probably the most valuable is this one, Nolan RYan's rookie card, of which I have a couple. One of these in "Gem" - virtually perfect - condition sold for $600,000 in 2020. My best one is not close to that, but I'd say it is still worth in the low four figures.:
During my working days I hired a gas turbine engineer as a consultant on all of my energy losses. Oil well pipelines explosions, refinery fires and turbines found in pipeline substations that would break down. He played high school baseball with Nolan Ryan.Wow. Cool stuff.
My late father in-law knew Nolan Ryan and his son fairly well. He's a Texas legend. His son supplied my father in-law with plenty tickets for Round Rock Express games at Dell Diamond.