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[warrior-cat]

Naw Sir,

Yuengling is about the "mellowist" tasting lager that I've drank. It is a stout beer. Feels like more alcohol content than Budweiser but is not, (4.4 for Yuengling to 5 for Budweiser) more mellow/ smoother. Yuengling is said to be the oldest brewery in the US.

Take this from someone who's huge day drinking now is three or four beers. I used to put away the suds (Not by volume) but I'd drink beer and hard liquor together. (In my early to mid twenties) I quit drinking totally while my kids were growing up and were living at home over more than twenty years. Never drank a drop. (The only alcohol I ever drank was nyquil.) My usual now is three to four beers in a seven day week. I drank two last night for the first time in at least ten days or so...

I did like drinking Spiced Rum and coke but the last time I had that was well over a couple years ago. No reason, I just haven't drank any and don't have any. (Well, the wife doesn't want me to drink hard liquor. She says it isn't good for me... so I don't...(That is the real reason.))

I talk about drinking now some but it isn't a priority. Another beer I liked a lot here and in Korea was Hite beer.

At the Walmart here I can buy a 12 pack of Bottled (I like bottled beer a lot more than canned beer. Totally different taste to me.) Yuengling for about $11.00 while you can buy a 24 pack right next to the 12 pack for $16.50 or so. I always buy the 24 pack as I am a frugal mug.

A 24 pack will last me at least a month and normally a month and a half or longer.

Just my take but that is why...

Oh, I do apologize about talking about drinking so much, especially on this day but I did. I am not ashamed of drinking but neither do I tout my drinking. I won't lie either way, what I DO watch out for is causing someone else to pick up the habit that may not be able to handle it and ruin their life(s). I think at that point it would be a sin. (Just my thinking)

In any event God Bless you all and I DO hope your day has good meaning for you and others in Christ.

Oh, I have had my days of drinking and partying but now, a drink or two a night to wind down. Nothing more than that. My daughter who is 15 was talking about that last night when she was talking about some of her friends and their parents and our next door neighbors. Most of her friends parents get drunk and the next door neighbors who have a 13 year old and a ten year old party every time they can. They throw many parties and are big drinkers. My daughter noted that she does not ever remember me or her mother being drunk. We haven't since she has been born and not really much before her during our marriage.

 

[BBUK]

This may wear out my welcome at the D League, but with the brownie post and later posts about beer, I have to tell this story. I had a buddy that won a bar bet for 3 cases of beer. To win, he ate a dog turd. He picked out a dry one, took it to the bar (along with his tooth brush), did the deed, brushed his teeth and left with his beer.

Dayum....

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

My wife looked at that and said to me "You would eat it". She's right, a brownie is a brownie.

It just needs to be topped with a shinny glaze to make it shine and look "fresh"! 😁

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Naw Sir,

Yuengling is about the "mellowist" tasting lager that I've drank. It is a stout beer. Feels like more alcohol content than Budweiser but is not, (4.4 for Yuengling to 5 for Budweiser) more mellow/ smoother. Yuengling is said to be the oldest brewery in the US.

Take this from someone who's huge day drinking now is three or four beers. I used to put away the suds (Not by volume) but I'd drink beer and hard liquor together. (In my early to mid twenties) I quit drinking totally while my kids were growing up and were living at home over more than twenty years. Never drank a drop. (The only alcohol I ever drank was nyquil.) My usual now is three to four beers in a seven day week. I drank two last night for the first time in at least ten days or so...

I did like drinking Spiced Rum and coke but the last time I had that was well over a couple years ago. No reason, I just haven't drank any and don't have any. (Well, the wife doesn't want me to drink hard liquor. She says it isn't good for me... so I don't...(That is the real reason.))

I talk about drinking now some but it isn't a priority. Another beer I liked a lot here and in Korea was Hite beer.

At the Walmart here I can buy a 12 pack of Bottled (I like bottled beer a lot more than canned beer. Totally different taste to me.) Yuengling for about $11.00 while you can buy a 24 pack right next to the 12 pack for $16.50 or so. I always buy the 24 pack as I am a frugal mug.

A 24 pack will last me at least a month and normally a month and a half or longer.

Just my take but that is why...

Oh, I do apologize about talking about drinking so much, especially on this day but I did. I am not ashamed of drinking but neither do I tout my drinking. I won't lie either way, what I DO watch out for is causing someone else to pick up the habit that may not be able to handle it and ruin their life(s). I think at that point it would be a sin. (Just my thinking)

In any event God Bless you all and I DO hope your day has good meaning for you and others in Christ.

I have no problems with you enjoying a good drink. I actually feel that it is good for you. I drink too much, but I am approaching 75 and still have never been drunk or do I feel that it hurts me.

Anyway, find me a verse in the bible that says thou shall not drink and I will stop.

I love whisky. Beer is okay but I save my liver for whisky.

 

[warrior-cat]

I have no problems with you enjoying a good drink. I actually feel that it is good for you. I drink too much, but I am approaching 75 and still have never been drunk or do I feel that it hurts me.

Anyway, find me a verse in the bible that says thou shall not drink and I will stop.

I love whisky. Beer is okay but I save my liver for whisky.

Lately, Scotch on the rocks. A couple of shots in a rock glass with an ice ball does the trick. I make my own ice balls (insert joke here).

 

[_Rooster]

45°➫ 69° Sunny

Question for Bert,

This is Rev. John Anthony Elmore and his wife Lillie Mae Brooks. I've determine that these two lovebirds are cousins of mine and likely yours too. John past on a few years back. Lillie is in Louisville now with her twin sister Millie.

I was just wondering if you knew John. The Cove Hollow Baptist church is on the corner of Nolin Dam Rd & Jaggars Page Rd. He was a good friend of my Grandfather Bill Rich who's buried in the Sweeden Missionary Church Cemetery. That would be the William Rich that married my Granny Zora Ellen Vincent, daughter of your Elmore marrying Walter Samuel Vincent.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

45°➫ 69° Sunny

Question for Bert,

This is Rev. John Anthony Elmore and his wife Lillie Mae Brooks. I've determine that these two lovebirds are cousins of mine and likely yours too. John past on a few years back. Lillie is in Louisville now with her twin sister Millie.

I was just wondering if you knew John. The church is on the corner of Nolin Dam Rd & Jaggars Page Rd. He was a good friend of my Grandfather Bill Rich who's buried in the Sweeden Missionary Church Cemetery. That would be the William Rich that married my Granny Zora Ellen Vincent, daughter of your Elmore marrying Walter Samuel Vincent.

I don't know. I could not get a direct hit in my ancestry on those names. What was Bill Rich's name? William. I could not get a hit on Walter Samuel Vincent.

I just need more information.

 

[cordmaker]

I had a buddy who would win bar bets by eating a water glass. Yep, he would bet someone that he could eat a glass, from the bar. He would break off a piece at a time, with his teeth, and then grind it down to almost sand, before swallowing it. He would win large amounts of money doing this. I couldn't believe it, until I saw it in person.

This is so strange Mr. Ben, when I was in basic in 1970, there was a guy in another platoon that would also win bets by eating glass!!! He had a friend that would start talking it up and collect the money, then this guy would pick up a piece of glass, chew it up, then swallow it!!! Don't remember where he was from, maybe Jersey?

 

[starchief5]

As a Bible student (I graduated from a Bible College), here is an honest summary of what the Bible actually teaches about the use of alcohol should anyone be interested.

What Does the Bible Say About Drinking Alcohol?

Alcohol Use in the Bible

Both beer and wine were known in Biblical times. Wine was made from pomegranates, dates, honey and apples as well as from grapes. The Bible makes it clear that these fermented beverages were intoxicating (Genesis 9:21; Isaiah 29:9; Jeremiah 25:27). However, alcoholic beverages were not distilled in Biblical times, so they were less potent than modern liquors, liqueurs and fortified wines.

Wine had many uses in the Bible:

Wine was a common beverage and part of the daily fare in Palestine (Judges 19:19, 2 Chronicles 11:11), including by Jesus (Matthew 11:19, Luke 5:38-39, Luke 7:34)

Wine was a gift from God to gladden men's hearts (Genesis 27:28, Psalms 104:14-15).

Wine was used at weddings and celebrations (John 2:1-3)
.
Wine was used in worship (Exodus 29:40, Leviticus 23:13, Numbers 15:5).

Wine was used in trade and for payment of debts (2 Chronicles 2:10, Ezekiel 27:18, Amos 2:8)

Wine was used as a medicine (2 Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, Mark 15:23, Luke 10:34, 1 Timothy 5:23)

There is nothing in either the Old or New Testament that opposes the moderate use of alcoholic beverages; they were a staple of everyday life.

On the other hand, there is no commandment in the Bible that we must drink, and many individuals and groups abstained from alcohol (Numbers 6:2-4, Daniel 1:8, Jeremiah 35:1-7, Luke 1:13-15). The apostle Paul warned against using the freedom to drink, or any similar freedom, in a way that would be offensive to others or cause them to stumble into sin (Romans 14:19-22).

Drunkenness

Although moderate use of alcohol is approved in the Bible, drunkenness is strongly opposed in both the Old and New Testaments:

Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. (NAS, Proverbs 20:1)

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them! Their banquets are accompanied by lyre and harp, by tambourine and flute, and by wine; But they do not pay attention to the deeds of the LORD, Nor do they consider the work of His hands. (NAS, Isaiah 5:11-12)

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. (NIV, Luke 21:34)

Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy. (NAS, Romans 13:13)

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, let the Holy Spirit fill and control you. (NLT, Ephesians 5:18)

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (NRSV, Galatians 5:19-21)

Church Doctrine

Many Christian denominations (e.g., Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Presbyterian (USA), Roman Catholic) approve of moderate and responsible consumption of alcoholic beverages.

In former times, sanitation was poor and water-borne illnesses such as cholera were common. Wine and beer were safer to drink because the alcohol and fermentation process helped to kill dangerous microorganisms. However, alcohol is a drug with great potential for abuse and addiction. In modern times, alcohol is often a factor in traffic deaths, divorce, domestic violence, unemployment, poor health, and other personal, family and social problems. Therefore, some Christian denominations (e.g., Assemblies of God, Southern Baptist, United Methodist) oppose all use of alcohol and advocate total abstinence..

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

As a Bible student (I graduated from a Bible College), here is an honest summary of what the Bible actually teaches about the use of alcohol should anyone be interested.

What Does the Bible Say About Drinking Alcohol?

Alcohol Use in the Bible

Both beer and wine were known in Biblical times. Wine was made from pomegranates, dates, honey and apples as well as from grapes. The Bible makes it clear that these fermented beverages were intoxicating (Genesis 9:21; Isaiah 29:9; Jeremiah 25:27). However, alcoholic beverages were not distilled in Biblical times, so they were less potent than modern liquors, liqueurs and fortified wines.

Wine had many uses in the Bible:

Wine was a common beverage and part of the daily fare in Palestine (Judges 19:19, 2 Chronicles 11:11), including by Jesus (Matthew 11:19, Luke 5:38-39, Luke 7:34)

Wine was a gift from God to gladden men's hearts (Genesis 27:28, Psalms 104:14-15).

Wine was used at weddings and celebrations (John 2:1-3)
.
Wine was used in worship (Exodus 29:40, Leviticus 23:13, Numbers 15:5).

Wine was used in trade and for payment of debts (2 Chronicles 2:10, Ezekiel 27:18, Amos 2:8)

Wine was used as a medicine (2 Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, Mark 15:23, Luke 10:34, 1 Timothy 5:23)

There is nothing in either the Old or New Testament that opposes the moderate use of alcoholic beverages; they were a staple of everyday life.

On the other hand, there is no commandment in the Bible that we must drink, and many individuals and groups abstained from alcohol (Numbers 6:2-4, Daniel 1:8, Jeremiah 35:1-7, Luke 1:13-15). The apostle Paul warned against using the freedom to drink, or any similar freedom, in a way that would be offensive to others or cause them to stumble into sin (Romans 14:19-22).

Drunkenness

Although moderate use of alcohol is approved in the Bible, drunkenness is strongly opposed in both the Old and New Testaments:

Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. (NAS, Proverbs 20:1)

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them! Their banquets are accompanied by lyre and harp, by tambourine and flute, and by wine; But they do not pay attention to the deeds of the LORD, Nor do they consider the work of His hands. (NAS, Isaiah 5:11-12)

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. (NIV, Luke 21:34)

Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy. (NAS, Romans 13:13)

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, let the Holy Spirit fill and control you. (NLT, Ephesians 5:18)

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (NRSV, Galatians 5:19-21)

Church Doctrine

Many Christian denominations (e.g., Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Presbyterian (USA), Roman Catholic) approve of moderate and responsible consumption of alcoholic beverages.

In former times, sanitation was poor and water-borne illnesses such as cholera were common. Wine and beer were safer to drink because the alcohol and fermentation process helped to kill dangerous microorganisms. However, alcohol is a drug with great potential for abuse and addiction. In modern times, alcohol is often a factor in traffic deaths, divorce, domestic violence, unemployment, poor health, and other personal, family and social problems. Therefore, some Christian denominations (e.g., Assemblies of God, Southern Baptist, United Methodist) oppose all use of alcohol and advocate total abstinence..

Just for the record: My grand father was a Baptist deacon, he gave the land for the church and helped build it.

He was excommunicated after prohibition because he was a distiller. A Baptist preacher invented Bourbon. So . . . . .

I don't buy this at all.

I appreciate all your good work and I have read it all before, but the Churches can't dictate how we live. They are for saving our souls not dictating terms on how we do things.

 

[berniecarbo]

I have no problem with anyone drinking as long as they are in control enough to not negatively impact others. When I came home from Viet Nam, I had a lot of stuff I didn't want to think about, stuff that was hard to live with. I self medicated to live with myself. About 35 years ago, the Lord helped me learn to live with myself. I still think about certain things pretty much every day, but HE helps me live with it. I might have a single beer once every few years, but I no longer drink.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Tell me something about Yuengling beer. Is it stronger tasting, alcohol content higher than our watered down regular beer?

Naw Sir,

Yuengling is about the "mellowist" tasting lager that I've drank. It is a stout beer. Feels like more alcohol content than Budweiser but is not, (4.4 for Yuengling to 5 for Budweiser) more mellow/ smoother. Yuengling is said to be the oldest brewery in the US.

Take this from someone who's huge day drinking now is three or four beers. I used to put away the suds (Not by volume) but I'd drink beer and hard liquor together. (In my early to mid twenties) I quit drinking totally while my kids were growing up and were living at home over more than twenty years. Never drank a drop. (The only alcohol I ever drank was nyquil.) My usual now is three to four beers in a seven day week. I drank two last night for the first time in at least ten days or so...

I did like drinking Spiced Rum and coke but the last time I had that was well over a couple years ago. No reason, I just haven't drank any and don't have any. (Well, the wife doesn't want me to drink hard liquor. She says it isn't good for me... so I don't...(That is the real reason.))

I talk about drinking now some but it isn't a priority. Another beer I liked a lot here and in Korea was Hite beer.

At the Walmart here I can buy a 12 pack of Bottled (I like bottled beer a lot more than canned beer. Totally different taste to me.) Yuengling for about $11.00 while you can buy a 24 pack right next to the 12 pack for $16.50 or so. I always buy the 24 pack as I am a frugal mug.

A 24 pack will last me at least a month and normally a month and a half or longer.

Just my take but that is why...

Oh, I do apologize about talking about drinking so much, especially on this day but I did. I am not ashamed of drinking but neither do I tout my drinking. I won't lie either way, what I DO watch out for is causing someone else to pick up the habit that may not be able to handle it and ruin their life(s). I think at that point it would be a sin. (Just my thinking)

In any event God Bless you all and I DO hope your day has good meaning for you and others in Christ.

There's another major difference between Yuengling and Bud/Miller/Natural Light, etc.: starch source. Yuengling brews using malted barley. Bud, Miller, etc. use corn ("adjunct" in brewing terms) for a starch source. Big difference.

 

[tapemaster8]

Good morning D=League. Hope the day is off to a good start for everyone.

I'm still psyched about the Cats' game. I honestly believe with normal summer work-outs to bond, a typical roster of exhibition games and early season cupcake games to get young players comfortable, this would be a Top 15 team now.

And if Keion had not gotten hurt and had been there as the early season leader, we might be talking a Top Ten team. And that's without factoring in the loss of Terrence Clarke. Just a uniquely screwed up year for the Cats.

As for me, the inevitable happened this morning - a full blown, ass-busting, legs straight up in the air fall on the ice. All parts intact. A sore shoulder and bruised hip, and a desperate hope no one in the neighborhood witnessed it.

But I don't want the D-Leaguers to miss out on a laugh. So, imagine it something like this. I definitely ended up in the same position.

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Glad You didn’t break anything. I had falls, one in 2014=broken wrist, and then in 2016=broken leg! I now where these spiked things on my shoes on the ice and snow.

 

[starchief5]

Just for the record: My grand father was a Baptist deacon, he gave the land for the church and helped build it.

He was excommunicated after prohibition because he was a distiller. A Baptist preacher invented Bourbon. So . . . . .

I don't buy this at all.

I appreciate all your good work and I have read it all before, but the Churches can't dictate how we live. They are for saving our souls not dictating terms on how we do things.

Bert, I think you misunderstood my intentions. I was just posting what the Bible actually SAYS about the subject for anyone who might not know the specifics. What a person DOES with what the Bible SAYS is none of my business. From my experience, the only church I can think of which has had any success in "dictating" how their members do things and actually hold them accountable is the Mormon church. It may be different in some places but I just have never seen it.

 

[awf]

Oh, I have had my days of drinking and partying but now, a drink or two a night to wind down. Nothing more than that. My daughter who is 15 was talking about that last night when she was talking about some of her friends and their parents and our next door neighbors. Most of her friends parents get drunk and the next door neighbors who have a 13 year old and a ten year old party every time they can. They throw many parties and are big drinkers. My daughter noted that she does not ever remember me or her mother being drunk. We haven't since she has been born and not really much before her during our marriage.

We quit drinking and everything else when our daughter was born.....when she got married and left......I started playing music out and the drinking followed.......I don't keep track of what I drink.........several beers a day I guess.......I also like some Irish Cream in my coffee.........both of my parents were alcoholics and it seems I am too......I never in my working career touched anything while working.....at my age who does it hurt other than me........we have a seven foot fence so it isn't like I will escape..........my daughter didn't know off any of my vices until she was married...........

 

[_Rooster]

I don't know. I could not get a direct hit in my ancestry on those names. What was Bill Rich's name? William. I could not get a hit on Walter Samuel Vincent. I just need more information.

I know little concerning John Elmore. I know Lillie Mae (Brooks) is a cousin and wondering about John. You being an Aylmer with Mammoth roots and all, I thought you might have some info about him. Off topic my uncle (Walter Samuel Rich) gave me a Mammoth tooth about 10" long he found that is kind of neat. I don't know anyone else who has one.

As a Bible student (I graduated from a Bible College), here is an honest summary of what the Bible actually teaches about the use of alcohol should anyone be interested.

What Does the Bible Say About Drinking Alcohol?

Alcohol Use in the Bible

Both beer and wine were known in Biblical times. Wine was made from pomegranates, dates, honey and apples as well as from grapes. The Bible makes it clear that these fermented beverages were intoxicating (Genesis 9:21; Isaiah 29:9; Jeremiah 25:27). However, alcoholic beverages were not distilled in Biblical times, so they were less potent than modern liquors, liqueurs and fortified wines.

Wine had many uses in the Bible:

Wine was a common beverage and part of the daily fare in Palestine (Judges 19:19, 2 Chronicles 11:11), including by Jesus (Matthew 11:19, Luke 5:38-39, Luke 7:34)

Wine was a gift from God to gladden men's hearts (Genesis 27:28, Psalms 104:14-15).

Wine was used at weddings and celebrations (John 2:1-3)
.
Wine was used in worship (Exodus 29:40, Leviticus 23:13, Numbers 15:5).

Wine was used in trade and for payment of debts (2 Chronicles 2:10, Ezekiel 27:18, Amos 2:8)

Wine was used as a medicine (2 Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, Mark 15:23, Luke 10:34, 1 Timothy 5:23)

There is nothing in either the Old or New Testament that opposes the moderate use of alcoholic beverages; they were a staple of everyday life.

On the other hand, there is no commandment in the Bible that we must drink, and many individuals and groups abstained from alcohol (Numbers 6:2-4, Daniel 1:8, Jeremiah 35:1-7, Luke 1:13-15). The apostle Paul warned against using the freedom to drink, or any similar freedom, in a way that would be offensive to others or cause them to stumble into sin (Romans 14:19-22).

Drunkenness

Although moderate use of alcohol is approved in the Bible, drunkenness is strongly opposed in both the Old and New Testaments:

Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. (NAS, Proverbs 20:1)

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them! Their banquets are accompanied by lyre and harp, by tambourine and flute, and by wine; But they do not pay attention to the deeds of the LORD, Nor do they consider the work of His hands. (NAS, Isaiah 5:11-12)

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. (NIV, Luke 21:34)

Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy. (NAS, Romans 13:13)

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, let the Holy Spirit fill and control you. (NLT, Ephesians 5:18)

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (NRSV, Galatians 5:19-21)

Church Doctrine

Many Christian denominations (e.g., Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Presbyterian (USA), Roman Catholic) approve of moderate and responsible consumption of alcoholic beverages.

In former times, sanitation was poor and water-borne illnesses such as cholera were common. Wine and beer were safer to drink because the alcohol and fermentation process helped to kill dangerous microorganisms. However, alcohol is a drug with great potential for abuse and addiction. In modern times, alcohol is often a factor in traffic deaths, divorce, domestic violence, unemployment, poor health, and other personal, family and social problems. Therefore, some Christian denominations (e.g., Assemblies of God, Southern Baptist, United Methodist) oppose all use of alcohol and advocate total abstinence..

You are clearly an Apostle of common sense so thank you for enlightenment. The humor, the non-judgmental wisdom a blessing here.

 

[_Rooster]

 

[BBUK]

Lately, Scotch on the rocks. A couple of shots in a rock glass with an ice ball does the trick. I make my own ice balls (As long as the neighbors don't see you and/or turn you in, I guess it's okay...).

Per instructions...

 

[BBUK]

As a Bible student (I graduated from a Bible College), here is an honest summary of what the Bible actually teaches about the use of alcohol should anyone be interested.

What Does the Bible Say About Drinking Alcohol?

Alcohol Use in the Bible

Both beer and wine were known in Biblical times. Wine was made from pomegranates, dates, honey and apples as well as from grapes. The Bible makes it clear that these fermented beverages were intoxicating (Genesis 9:21; Isaiah 29:9; Jeremiah 25:27). However, alcoholic beverages were not distilled in Biblical times, so they were less potent than modern liquors, liqueurs and fortified wines.

Wine had many uses in the Bible:

Wine was a common beverage and part of the daily fare in Palestine (Judges 19:19, 2 Chronicles 11:11), including by Jesus (Matthew 11:19, Luke 5:38-39, Luke 7:34)

Wine was a gift from God to gladden men's hearts (Genesis 27:28, Psalms 104:14-15).

Wine was used at weddings and celebrations (John 2:1-3)
.
Wine was used in worship (Exodus 29:40, Leviticus 23:13, Numbers 15:5).

Wine was used in trade and for payment of debts (2 Chronicles 2:10, Ezekiel 27:18, Amos 2:8)

Wine was used as a medicine (2 Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, Mark 15:23, Luke 10:34, 1 Timothy 5:23)

There is nothing in either the Old or New Testament that opposes the moderate use of alcoholic beverages; they were a staple of everyday life.

On the other hand, there is no commandment in the Bible that we must drink, and many individuals and groups abstained from alcohol (Numbers 6:2-4, Daniel 1:8, Jeremiah 35:1-7, Luke 1:13-15). The apostle Paul warned against using the freedom to drink, or any similar freedom, in a way that would be offensive to others or cause them to stumble into sin (Romans 14:19-22).

Drunkenness

Although moderate use of alcohol is approved in the Bible, drunkenness is strongly opposed in both the Old and New Testaments:

Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise. (NAS, Proverbs 20:1)

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them! Their banquets are accompanied by lyre and harp, by tambourine and flute, and by wine; But they do not pay attention to the deeds of the LORD, Nor do they consider the work of His hands. (NAS, Isaiah 5:11-12)

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. (NIV, Luke 21:34)

Let us behave properly as in the day, not in carousing and drunkenness, not in sexual promiscuity and sensuality, not in strife and jealousy. (NAS, Romans 13:13)

Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, let the Holy Spirit fill and control you. (NLT, Ephesians 5:18)

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (NRSV, Galatians 5:19-21)

Church Doctrine

Many Christian denominations (e.g., Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, Presbyterian (USA), Roman Catholic) approve of moderate and responsible consumption of alcoholic beverages.

In former times, sanitation was poor and water-borne illnesses such as cholera were common. Wine and beer were safer to drink because the alcohol and fermentation process helped to kill dangerous microorganisms. However, alcohol is a drug with great potential for abuse and addiction. In modern times, alcohol is often a factor in traffic deaths, divorce, domestic violence, unemployment, poor health, and other personal, family and social problems. Therefore, some Christian denominations (e.g., Assemblies of God, Southern Baptist, United Methodist) oppose all use of alcohol and advocate total abstinence..

Thank you Sir,
I took from this what I initially stated; I try very hard not to cause others to sin. That would be the sinful part in my way of understanding.

The very reason I did not drink or allow R-rated movies in my home while my children were growing up. (I didn't want to be a bad example AND maybe they couldn't handle it and I'd be causing them a lifetime of misery if they fell to the temptations.) I wanted their home to be a place to come to be able to get away from the filthiness of the world. Not that I am clean but darned if I didn't do my due diligence toward and for my family.

I won't knowingly do things to this day to cause someone to commit a sin or sins. I cannot take on their soul and their choices but I do know the Devil will use anything he can to cause people to fall.... Thanks

 

[BBUK]

I know little concerning John Elmore. I know Lillie Mae (Brooks) is a cousin and wondering about John. You being an Aylmer with Mammoth roots and all, I thought you might have some info about him. Off topic my uncle (Walter Samuel Rich) gave me a Mammoth tooth about 10" long he found that is kind of neat. I don't know anyone else who has one.

You are clearly an Apostle of common sense so thank you for enlightenment. The humor, the non-judgmental wisdom a blessing here.

I used to work for a Roy Rich for a short time...

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I use to love radio in the "old days" One of my favorites was out of Jacksonville WAPE "The Big Ape" THE MIGHTY 690 50,000 WATT BLOWTORCH

 

[BBUK]

There's another major difference between Yuengling and Bud/Miller/Natural Light, etc.: starch source. Yuengling brews using malted barley. Bud, Miller, etc. use corn ("adjunct" in brewing terms) for a starch source. Big difference.

I like it, I love it, I want some more of it... (All that came to mind. maybe should have just not posted..)

 

[BBUK]

The wife and I just got back from our weekend ritual of hitting the grocery stores. (We go to the oriental market chains of which there is an abundance in this area. (Good fresh produce at a real decent price.) These are super-type markets here; Lotte, H-Mart, LA-Mart, and Costco... (Yeah Costco is not one of those but you can get some good deals on decent food if you plan for the bulk.)

My wife bought us and our daughters one of those Leech cakes. It had a small coating of caramel or something like that on top. (Not my kind of eating but what do you do.)



Edit: (Note to my literal self) What my wife bought was a

"Tres Leches (Milk Cake)"

I called it a Leech cake... Oh well....

 

[_Rooster]

Per instructions...

Simple tuneup for ball game straight to the point.
Maturity required when shot.
When shot, stop & Enjoy.

 

[BBUK]

Simple tuneup for ball game straight to the point.
Maturity required when shot.
When shot, stop & Enjoy.

HA, yeah, when I was drinking liquor I went for the 100 proof variety. I could get where I wanted without the volume.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Glad You didn’t break anything. I had falls, one in 2014=broken wrist, and then in 2016=broken leg! I now where these spiked things on my shoes on the ice and snow.

Thanks Tape master. It’s been a rough year for falls for me. In April I slipped on a wet plank bridge while jogging and landed face-first. 12 stitches under my right eye.

 

[_Rooster]

I won't knowingly do things to this day to cause someone to commit a sin or sins

Won't happen here. You like this place because the folks are not lemmings. I can only speak for myself but when I stray (I have no halo) it won't be because of something you said.

 

[_Rooster]

 

[awf]

HA, yeah, when I was drinking liquor I went for the 100 proof variety. I could get where I wanted without the volume.

When I was young if I was wanting to tie one on...........ain't nothing like good moonshine........

 

[awf]

Won't happen here. You like this place because the folks are not lemmings. I can only speak for myself but when I stray (I have no halo) it won't be because of something you said.

I personally never needed any help to go off track........never needed any instructions/incitement to misbehave.....the hard part is curbing my behavior.....

 

[BBUK]

I personally never needed any help to go off track........never needed any instructions/incitement to misbehave.....the hard part is curbing my behavior.....

Ha, people are always watching me... I'm not paranoid either.

 

[Ben101er]

This is so strange Mr. Ben, when I was in basic in 1970, there was a guy in another platoon that would also win bets by eating glass!!! He had a friend that would start talking it up and collect the money, then this guy would pick up a piece of glass, chew it up, then swallow it!!! Don't remember where he was from, maybe Jersey?

My friend didn’t just eat a piece of glass, he actually ate an entire water glass.

 

[_Rooster]

I have no problem with anyone drinking as long as they are in control enough to not negatively impact others. When I came home from Viet Nam, I had a lot of stuff I didn't want to think about, stuff that was hard to live with. I self medicated to live with myself. About 35 years ago, the Lord helped me learn to live with myself. I still think about certain things pretty much every day, but HE helps me live with it. I might have a single beer once every few years, but I no longer drink.

Not being you, I do not know your pain. I can tell you found the best answer for the pain of a warrior. I'm just glad you take the time to post here.

 

[_Rooster]

I personally never needed any help to go off track........never needed any instructions/incitement to misbehave.....the hard part is curbing my behavior.....

Understood.

 

[BBUK]

There's another major difference between Yuengling and Bud/Miller/Natural Light, etc.: starch source. Yuengling brews using malted barley. Bud, Miller, etc. use corn ("adjunct" in brewing terms) for a starch source. Big difference.

"I KNEW there was something about that guy...." (Place the reference)

 

[BBUK]

When I was young if I was wanting to tie one on...........ain't nothing like good moonshine........

I've drank a drunk on that stuff too a couple times but it numbed me inside both times from different places. I'd sip a bit but would stay away from drinking to excess on it...

Now, home-brew I have had a couple good experience drunks. Stayed on one for three days once with about four or so gallons a friend had. Never had a hangover of any sort...(I didn't drink it all but I sure damaged it.)

 

[BBUK]

My friend didn’t just eat a piece of glass, he actually ate an entire water glass.

Sir,
I'd have probably offered him 20 bucks not to eat it.... Then I'd have had enough time to leave...

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Simple tuneup for ball game straight to the point.
Maturity required when shot.
When shot, stop & Enjoy.

I have a bottle of that. Complements of Ymmot.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Thanks Tape master. It’s been a rough year for falls for me. In April I slipped on a wet plank bridge while jogging and landed face-first. 12 stitches under my right eye.

On June 2, 2017 I had a good fall. Broken left femur, most pain that I have ever had in my life:

 

[Backer cutter]

Howdy to all my old friends here in the D. Been a good while since I’ve been here. Sounds like things are clicking right along for most, but only read the last couple pages. Don’t know why I haven’t been back lately honestly. This has been a trying time for us all, but I still appreciate how I was welcomed here last year, and haven’t forgotten it. Good people here. Will honestly try to check in much more frequently, and post occasionally. Meantime, y’all watch out for that poster who drinks youngleeene, and the alien. They need help 🤭