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catlanta33 said:
Weird how natural immunity is the best covid vaccine by a lot. But you know, those shots saved millions as long as you don't ask anyone to prove it.
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Gosh, I miss the "I have tested positive for COVID. But I'm glad I'm vaccinated or it would be so much worse" posts on social media.

Another form of entertainment were the people who called everyone they were around to tell them they had COVID as if they were calling the people they had sex with to tell them they have chlamydia.
 
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Gosh, I miss the "I have tested positive for COVID. But I'm glad I'm vaccinated or it would be so much worse" posts on social media.

Another form of entertainment were the people who called everyone they were around to tell them they had COVID as if they were calling the people they had sex with to tell them they have chlamydia.
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Was very creepy the politicians and entertainers all had coordinated scripts that came from some central decision maker, presumably fauci led.

Was definitely the most creepy time i can recall. Before that, i always wondered how on earth the Holocaust was ever possible. Now i know. A good chunk of the population wanted you to be ruined and then die alone without treatment if you got seriously ill. Then cheered loud and proud when one or both happened.
 
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Covid was a historical event for the world. The thread should have been archived at worst, but that is the liberal mindset for you. Erase history so that you can re-write it.

I'm also not so sure Covid is done with us yet. The virus itself still has some mystery around it, and the shots have compounded the issue by doing some major damage to people's immune system.

A recent model about long covid was recently released. It was based on Canadian data and it basically says that with each infection the risk of long covid goes up exponentially.

It's long so I will put it in spoiler tags.
LC infections over time
A model based on data provided from the Canadian government suggests that nearly every child may experience Long COVID symptoms by age 10, driven by recurrent COVID-19 infections and cumulative risk.
  1. Long COVID Risk per Infection
  2. Increased Risk with Re-infections
    • Statistics Canada findings:
      • Canadians with one infection: 14.6% reported prolonged symptoms
      • Canadians with two infections: 25.4% (1.7 times higher risk than one infection)
      • Canadians with three or more infections: 37.9% (2.6 times higher risk than one infection)
    • Source: Statistics Canada
This model, developed by analyzing infection rates and using data from the Institut national de santé publique du Québec and the COVID-19 Immunity Task Force, estimates an average infection rate of once per person per year. With each infection presenting a 13% risk of developing Long COVID, repeated exposures drastically increase cumulative risk over time.
Key findings from the model:
  • 2022: After the first infection, each individual faces a 13% risk of Long COVID.
  • 2026: With five infections, the risk climbs to approximately 50%.
  • 2032: After ten infections, the risk reaches around 78%.
The methodology uses a cumulative risk formula to calculate the likelihood of developing Long COVID over multiple infections, assuming infections occur independently and at a constant risk rate. The model estimates that nearly all children will face Long COVID by age 10 if these infection rates continue, potentially marking a significant long-term health impact for the entire population.
To explore the data and methodology behind these findings, you can view the project and code on GitHub: LC-Risk Estimator.

The Long COVID Risk​

The most severe potential outcome of Long COVID involves several interconnected risks that could create a downward spiral of health and economic consequences:
The global burden could exceed 400 million cases by late 2023, with numbers continuing to grow due to reinfections and new variants. This estimate is likely conservative as it doesn't account for asymptomatic infections.
The condition remains poorly understood, with multiple proposed mechanisms including viral persistence, immune dysregulation, and mitochondrial dysfunction. Limited research funding and lack of standardized diagnostic tools hinder treatment development. Without clear understanding of its subtypes, developing targeted therapies remains difficult.
Studies show concerning low recovery rates, with many cases potentially becoming chronic conditions. A significant portion of affected individuals experience reduced work capacity or complete disability, leading to long-term dependence on support systems.
The estimated annual global cost could reach $1 trillion through:
  • Reduced workforce participation
  • Increased healthcare costs
  • Lost productivity
  • Strain on public finances
  • Potential labor shortages
  • Social and Development Impact
Marginalized communities face disproportionate effects and barriers to care
Progress toward Sustainable Development Goals could be undermined
Existing health inequalities may worsen
Access to healthcare and poverty reduction efforts could be reversed
Without effective prevention and treatment strategies, this scenario could result in a significant portion of the population facing chronic illness and disability. The cascading effects would impact all aspects of society, creating a future marked by widespread health challenges and economic hardship.
Recent surges in pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses in the U.S. may be linked to immune system damage from repeated COVID-19 infections and Long COVID (LC). Mycoplasma pneumoniae, a common cause of "walking pneumonia," has sharply increased among children, alongside significant rises in hospitalizations for COVID-19, influenza, and RSV.
Research reveals that LC often weakens immune response, leaving individuals more vulnerable to additional infections. Autoimmune responses triggered by LC can create chronic inflammation, damaging lung and other body tissues. This impaired immunity is thought to be a factor behind severe respiratory outcomes, including recurrent pneumonia, as the immune system becomes less capable of fighting off routine pathogens.
With cumulative COVID exposure, especially in young people, the weakened immune systems may struggle to fend off infections. Preventive health measures and managing LC risks are critical to mitigating these rising respiratory threats.
The urgent need for measures to reduce transmission and manage Long COVID risks as COVID continues to circulate globally.
 
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Covid was a historical event for the world. The thread should have been archived at worst, but that is the liberal mindset for you. Erase history so that you can re-write it.

I'm also not so sure Covid is done with us yet. The virus itself still has some mystery around it, and the shots have compounded the issue by doing some major damage to people's immune system.

A recent model about long covid was recently released. It was based on Canadian data and it basically says that with each infection the risk of long covid goes up exponentially.

It's long so I will put it in spoiler tags.
LC infections over time
A model based on data provided from the Canadian government suggests that nearly every child may experience Long COVID symptoms by age 10, driven by recurrent COVID-19 infections and cumulative risk.
  1. Long COVID Risk per Infection
  2. Increased Risk with Re-infections
    • Statistics Canada findings:
      • Canadians with one infection: 14.6% reported prolonged symptoms
      • Canadians with two infections: 25.4% (1.7 times higher risk than one infection)
      • Canadians with three or more infections: 37.9% (2.6 times higher risk than one infection)
    • Source: Statistics Canada
This model, developed by analyzing infection rates and using data from the Institut national de santé publique du Québec and the COVID-19 Immunity Task Force, estimates an average infection rate of once per person per year. With each infection presenting a 13% risk of developing Long COVID, repeated exposures drastically increase cumulative risk over time.
Key findings from the model:
  • 2022: After the first infection, each individual faces a 13% risk of Long COVID.
  • 2026: With five infections, the risk climbs to approximately 50%.
  • 2032: After ten infections, the risk reaches around 78%.
The methodology uses a cumulative risk formula to calculate the likelihood of developing Long COVID over multiple infections, assuming infections occur independently and at a constant risk rate. The model estimates that nearly all children will face Long COVID by age 10 if these infection rates continue, potentially marking a significant long-term health impact for the entire population.
To explore the data and methodology behind these findings, you can view the project and code on GitHub: LC-Risk Estimator.

The Long COVID Risk​

The most severe potential outcome of Long COVID involves several interconnected risks that could create a downward spiral of health and economic consequences:
The global burden could exceed 400 million cases by late 2023, with numbers continuing to grow due to reinfections and new variants. This estimate is likely conservative as it doesn't account for asymptomatic infections.
The condition remains poorly understood, with multiple proposed mechanisms including viral persistence, immune dysregulation, and mitochondrial dysfunction. Limited research funding and lack of standardized diagnostic tools hinder treatment development. Without clear understanding of its subtypes, developing targeted therapies remains difficult.
Studies show concerning low recovery rates, with many cases potentially becoming chronic conditions. A significant portion of affected individuals experience reduced work capacity or complete disability, leading to long-term dependence on support systems.
The estimated annual global cost could reach $1 trillion through:
  • Reduced workforce participation
  • Increased healthcare costs
  • Lost productivity
  • Strain on public finances
  • Potential labor shortages
  • Social and Development Impact
Marginalized communities face disproportionate effects and barriers to care
Progress toward Sustainable Development Goals could be undermined
Existing health inequalities may worsen
Access to healthcare and poverty reduction efforts could be reversed
Without effective prevention and treatment strategies, this scenario could result in a significant portion of the population facing chronic illness and disability. The cascading effects would impact all aspects of society, creating a future marked by widespread health challenges and economic hardship.
Recent surges in pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses in the U.S. may be linked to immune system damage from repeated COVID-19 infections and Long COVID (LC). Mycoplasma pneumoniae, a common cause of "walking pneumonia," has sharply increased among children, alongside significant rises in hospitalizations for COVID-19, influenza, and RSV.
Research reveals that LC often weakens immune response, leaving individuals more vulnerable to additional infections. Autoimmune responses triggered by LC can create chronic inflammation, damaging lung and other body tissues. This impaired immunity is thought to be a factor behind severe respiratory outcomes, including recurrent pneumonia, as the immune system becomes less capable of fighting off routine pathogens.
With cumulative COVID exposure, especially in young people, the weakened immune systems may struggle to fend off infections. Preventive health measures and managing LC risks are critical to mitigating these rising respiratory threats.
The urgent need for measures to reduce transmission and manage Long COVID risks as COVID continues to circulate globally.
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Covid isnt going anywhere. Like i posted way back when, once that thing got out it was destined to be here forever in some form. They made the most infectious disease ever and never considered the possibility it would walk out of that lab.

Then we vaccinated into it, which literally just made the variants explode in such a way it will forever be here in several forms that mutate and evade resistance.

Im still convinced long covid is nonsense. It started as a psychological issue and thats what it mostly remains imo.

The rest of it is a misdiagnosis of physical ailments related to lockdown instead of the disease. Covid was at its base an inflammatory reaction. Tons of other poor health habits cause inflammation too, ie alcohol, poor diet (especially processed gluten and other crap foods), and lack of exercise/ambulation. All of those also lead to motility issues.

So there are very real residual issues from that time period, but its all related to lockdown/lifestyle changes/choices. Not a virus.
 
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Peptides, you say?

Shocked Sesame Street GIF
 
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So there are very real residual issues from that time period, but its all related to lockdown/lifestyle changes/choices. Not a virus.
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The western world is filled with very unhealthy people. Long Covid is the medical establishments name for something that they don't understand, and in most people it is the above listed causes, but in some people it is very real.

My guess is the body's response to the virus triggers latent autoimmune issues in some people. Could be an unknown design element too.

I would say that big pharma already knows the answer and is actively seeking a way to exploit it for money. Time will tell.
 
All of this was well documented in the dead covid thread. GOF is one of the worst decisions the human species has ever come up with in the name of science and it's been Fauci's baby forever. Not only does GOF need to cease to exist, so does anyone that had a hand in it's creation.

 
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catlanta33 said:
Trying to temper expectations and not sure that's possible starting from anything short of Fauci being imprisoned is a failure but I'm trying.
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Same. I figure theyll just delete everything and nothing can be proven.

At least the machine wont be there to protect him from whatever can be mustered.
 
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In the original thread, i posted as much. I didn't for one second buy Iran burying people in mass graves nor the people literally dropping dead on the streets. Nor did i buy the Chinese living it up in a wave pool after they complied with their lockdown.

Imo it was easy to spot if you were objective. 1) homeless weren't dying in droves, so that meant thankfully the virus was as bad as advertised and 2) it didn't effect people to the point where they just collapsed in the street. The unfortunate very small percentage with serious illness didn't just have sudden onset death.

We were literally intentionally fed mass amounts of propaganda to push fear so they could push in fascism and compliance. Thats why the purchase of Twitter was so important for the world. It knocked out their info monopoly.

I know people will never fully pay for what they did, but there needs to be massive investigation into all this. Im at least optimistic that will happen. Maybe at least that will rightfully sully the names of those responsible.
 
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Remember when the Biden Administration tried to cram down vaccines on every American who worked for a company of any size? Because it happened, whether Biden remembers it or not.
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Lol, yeah. I recall. Considering we would've lost 60% of our workforce when it when in effect.

Just a refresher on that. He end rounded the mandate, a favorite way of doing things during covid, by using OSHA to mandate any business over 100 employees would reguire a vaccine mandate. Thank God RBG died on Trump's watch, because if not, I'm not sure what we would've done.


Also, reminder than AB did the same thing when closing down ALL SCHOOLS in fall of 2020. He threatened to revoke any teachers certification if they taught during his dumbass closures because he couldn't shut down private schools any other way. Just the scum of the earth.
 
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I know it will never happen, but it there needs to be accountability for Fauci et al, and we should have a national holiday celebrating critical thought so no one ever forgets how brainwashed people were.

Me, a young fit healthy male, actually wondering whether or not I’d have to quit my job rather than inject myself with ineffective (for the stated purpose) experimental gene therapy.
 
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anthonys735 said:
Also, reminder than AB did the same thing when closing down ALL SCHOOLS in fall of 2020. He threatened to revoke any teachers certification if they taught during his dumbass closures because he couldn't shut down private schools any other way. Just the scum of the earth.
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I remain sickened that King Andy was reelected.
 
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Btw, still pushing these shots on kids. They couldn't keep the grift going on adults so they are using kids to help improve their bottom line.
 
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We were interviewing pediatricians at the time. (I know people here probably think I’m some crazed political lunatic in real life, but I assure you I don’t say a word about politics in real life, this is my outlet.)

Anyway, we were asking about vaccines for our yet to be born son, and the pediatrician said something along the lines of “we’ll be requiring Covid shots. It’s insane people let their politics get in the way of this.”

Me, who at that point in time apparently knew more about the risks of Covid and those shots than the pediatrician, decided we’d never step foot back in that office.

We hadn’t even objected to the shots, she’d just decided to volunteer a medical opinion based on politics. Appalling.
 
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Bill Cosby said:
We were interviewing pediatricians at the time. (I know people here probably think I’m some crazed political lunatic in real life, but I assure you I don’t say a word about politics in real life, this is my outlet.)

Anyway, we were asking about vaccines for our yet to be born son, and the pediatrician said something along the lines of “we’ll be requiring Covid shots. It’s insane people let their politics get in the way of this.”

Me, who at that point in time apparently knew more about the risks of Covid and those shots than the pediatrician, decided we’d never step foot back in that office.

We hadn’t even objected to the shots, she’d just decided to volunteer a medical opinion based on politics. Appalling.
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Maybe the most unscientific period of the modern era.

They were led there by entities that rely on big pharma funding.

 
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This is how far it went, that the supposed medical community forgot about actual science and medicine to shill for big pharma. These organizations provide information to our doctors and nurses.

Groups include American Medical Association, American Nurses Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, Association of American Medical Colleges, and National Association for Home Care and Hospice

With COVID-19 case counts rising amid the spread of the Delta variant, more than 50 health care professional societies and organizations called for all health care employers to require their employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in a joint statement released today. These societies and organizations represent millions of workers throughout health and long-term care – from doctors and nurses to pharmacists and physician assistants, from public health workers and epidemiologists to long-term care, home care, and hospice workers.

https://www.aamc.org/news/press-rel...-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-all-health-workers
 
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catlanta33 said:
Btw, still pushing these shots on kids. They couldn't keep the grift going on adults so they are using kids to help improve their bottom line.
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Not sure who TF is buying that crap anymore or they've just got money to burn, but I see way too much of those bullsh*t ads during CFB and NFL games telling folks to get their flu and covid jab in one trip.

I'm guessing the lunatics you see filming themselves having mental breakdowns after Tuesday's result are on their fifth or sixth booster, but they're also the least likely to watch football, so no clue who they think they're appealing to? The "health" industry can't be overhauled soon enough.
 
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They have another thing in common which is this insanity over focusing on medicine and arming our doctors and nurses with useful information.

AAMC -

Importance of Diversity in Health Care​

Diversity, equity, and inclusion in medical education and the physician workforce is critical for everyone’s health.

AAP -

Development of the Equity Agenda​

The AAP Equity Agenda was built on the recommendations of the Task Forces on Diversity and Inclusion and Addressing Bias and Discrimination convened from 2015-2017 and 2017-2019, respectively. The AAP Board of Directors approved the AAP Equity Agenda and first workplan in fall 2020 to guide the Academy’s efforts to achieve health equity and actualize our goals to become an equitable, diverse, and inclusive organization. Recognizing that addressing the role of racism in the history of organized medicine and as one of many social drivers of health that are often the driving force behind health inequities, the Equity Agenda was, in large part, informed by the AAP policy statements The Impact of Racism on Child and Adolescent Health and Truth, Reconciliation, and Transformation: Continuing on the Path to Equity. The Equity Agenda is also supported by the Academy’s commitments outlined in the AAP Diversity and Inclusion Statement.

ANA -

The Imperative Need for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging (DEIB) in Nursing​

Jul 19th 2024
MEDIA CONTACT: newsroom@ana.org
SILVER SPRING, MD – As part of nursing’s ongoing commitment to advance health equity and advocate for quality care, the Tri-Council for Nursing — the American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN), the American Nurses Association (ANA), the American Organization for Nursing Leadership (AONL), the National Council of State Boards of Nursing (NCSBN), and the National League for Nursing (NLN) — calls for unwavering support for diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) within nursing education, practice and all other health care sectors.

https://www.nursingworld.org/news/n...uity-inclusion-and-belonging-deib-in-nursing/

NAHC -

NAHC Accepting Nominations for New Diversity and Inclusion Task Force​

September 9, 2020

https://nahc.org/nahc-accepting-nominations-for-new-diversity-and-inclusion-task-force/
 
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Not sure who TF is buying that crap anymore or they've just got money to burn, but I see way too much of those bullsh*t ads during CFB and NFL games telling folks to get their flu and covid jab in one trip.

I'm guessing the lunatics you see filming themselves having mental breakdowns after Tuesday's result are on their fifth or sixth booster, but they're also the least likely to watch football, so no clue who they think they're appealing to? The "health" industry can't be overhauled soon enough.
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They aren’t selling shots, they’re buying the network. I’m assuming it’s easier to get the control they need of the news programming if they funnel large sums of money in NFL ad spend than it would be to just buy ads on the View, etc.

There’d be no way the market could plausibly support funneling the necessary amount of money if it was solely as purchases on daytime tv and the nightly news.
 
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Who can forget this garbage the health industry choreographed while you couldn’t visit loved ones in the hospital, nursing homes were on their deathbed. Every one of these people involved should be stripped of any professional/ medical license…



Or this farce…



Just a demonic stain on our nations history that until responsible parties are held accountable, shouldn’t be forgotten or forgiven.
 
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I'd love to know what King Andy thinks is most important in my daily life that he's so focused on.

"What I offer instead is a way forward," Beshear wrote. "I won re-election 12 months ago by five points in a state that Donald Trump just carried by 30 points. And I did so at a time when inflation and illegal border crossings were higher than they are now. So how was it possible? Because the people of Kentucky know I care about them personally and, most important, that I am focused on what matters most in their daily lives. That’s a trust leaders must earn not only in their messaging but also in their everyday actions."

www.whas11.com

'I refuse to play the blame game' | Andy Beshear offers detailed path forward for Democrats

Beshear, a potential 2028 presidential candidate, published an op-ed in the New York Times Tuesday laying out his vision for his party's future.
www.whas11.com www.whas11.com
 
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I just recently finished a book about the Sackler family. Their history with OxyContin is well chronicled, but what I didn’t know is how they got their start.

Arthur Sackler actually owned a weekly medical journal (Medical Tribune — distributed to 600,000 doctors across 20 countries) and an advertising agency (LW Frolich).

He pioneered the concept of selling a drug, then controlling all the marketing, communication, and advertising to both doctors and the public alike. What a dude.
 
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