CI Wrestling Thread #56
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Last night was for the lapsed fan imo. The Attitude Era ending sent millions away who never came back. We got Dwayne the businessman, not Rock: The Final Boss. If he's unable to clear his schedule, creative probably doesn't know what to do with him when he wants to show up. And kayfabe is dead so he probably doesn't see an issue being friendly with Cody on air as Dwayne.
On Hogan, that was hilarious. WWE won't stop the association and I understand why, but that's a warning shot by fans. Hogan has been getting some boos the last several years. I guess WWE wants to rehabilitate him but when you've said racist things, lie about everything, go all in on politics, and grift by selling "pro-American" beer as if we now have to have stuff for the left and stuff for the right, that makes you divisive. Even if you love him being MAGA, cool, but then he lies in every interview and said racist shit. Plus grifting is lame. He's a few years away from telling me to buy gold coins in an ad on some AM radio station. It's just hard to explain allll that away and then be like "but but Hulkamania..." And it's not all politics because Taker interviewed and endorsed a candidate and was cheered last night.
On Hogan, that was hilarious. WWE won't stop the association and I understand why, but that's a warning shot by fans. Hogan has been getting some boos the last several years. I guess WWE wants to rehabilitate him but when you've said racist things, lie about everything, go all in on politics, and grift by selling "pro-American" beer as if we now have to have stuff for the left and stuff for the right, that makes you divisive. Even if you love him being MAGA, cool, but then he lies in every interview and said racist shit. Plus grifting is lame. He's a few years away from telling me to buy gold coins in an ad on some AM radio station. It's just hard to explain allll that away and then be like "but but Hulkamania..." And it's not all politics because Taker interviewed and endorsed a candidate and was cheered last night.
HHH and Steph were at Mar a lago on NYE. People are just sick of Hogan. He got booed at mania too (a couple years ago)
Actually remove the WWE makeup and Rhea is quite attractive, kind of like Gal Gadot.
Ya Nia was on raw and they moved her to sd last year so idk they flip her back?
Actually would like to see bayley move to raw. Shes just kinda treading water on sd right now.
I really hope you are right. Dude has more of a championship look/aura than damn-near everyone in the company, and his in-rink skill is really good for a big guy. He’s added a few moves to his repitoire and both the bicycle-ish kick and that pick-up power bomb from last night were incredibly impressive. Hate that WWE had Uso kick out of the Claymore, but hopefully that’s just a one-time thing as we saw it in every match last night, many times where it didn’t make sense (Liv kicking out of Rhea’s finisher? Come on…).
Drew would be a great anti-hero kind of like SCSA back in the day. He wasn’t really a face during that run but he also wasn’t a heel. The crowds just loved him no matter what he did.
I think the reason the crowd won't turn on Drew is that he is so damned funny on social media. He could pull off being a bad ass good guy, but when he posts a meme just killing whoever he is feuding with the crowd can't help but like him.
For example, the CM Punk feud.
For example, the CM Punk feud.
For better or worse, here's my opinion.
Watched Raw but not on Netflix. The wrestling was good. But who wants to tune in when 2/3 of the show is just talking? This is the reason why I dreaded Raw and Smackdown becoming 3 hour shows. Hated the black ring mat with advertising all over it. Can't believe some fans liked it while criticizing the blue mat used on Smackdown.
I thought we would get a few surprises but basically nothing tonight. Did anything happen on this Raw to make you want to subscribe to Netflix and tune in next week? Not for me.
Watched Raw but not on Netflix. The wrestling was good. But who wants to tune in when 2/3 of the show is just talking? This is the reason why I dreaded Raw and Smackdown becoming 3 hour shows. Hated the black ring mat with advertising all over it. Can't believe some fans liked it while criticizing the blue mat used on Smackdown.
I thought we would get a few surprises but basically nothing tonight. Did anything happen on this Raw to make you want to subscribe to Netflix and tune in next week? Not for me.
I won’t sub until peacock loses the PLE to Netflix - I can catch enough of what happened on raw it’s not worth it just to sub for basically 2 dollars an episode especially when cbb is on espn mondays.
Hogan getting booed out of the building was hilarious.
The finish to Punk and Rollins was the exact same as Punk and Moxley from All Out 2022.
I'm sure it's leading to something eventually but wasn't a big fan of "Corporate Rock" and how they just ignored what happened with Cody.
If (when) another company does that you hear no end of complaining.
Also this was funny too.
The finish to Punk and Rollins was the exact same as Punk and Moxley from All Out 2022.
I'm sure it's leading to something eventually but wasn't a big fan of "Corporate Rock" and how they just ignored what happened with Cody.
If (when) another company does that you hear no end of complaining.
Also this was funny too.
Eh, lots are complaining about the Rock/Cody thing. Busted Open has a long clip on YT ripping it apart and fans didn't understand what we got and/or wanted Rock to turn on Roman. It tells me last year's buildup was special and that's not happening this year. Rock took himself out of the equation even if it didn't make sense. Maybe he returns next month and we're all "here we go" but I doubt it. This might be the year of Cena and Punk winning WWE gold again and in '26 it's Rock vs Reigns or Rock and Cody.
I dunno, the positive is you're left guessing. Everything, like last year, is sort of unpredictable right now which is good overall.
I dunno, the positive is you're left guessing. Everything, like last year, is sort of unpredictable right now which is good overall.
There’s a bunch to like about that Guilia for sure, but I’m a fan of her finisher. The Northern Lights Bomb looks really good.
It's Wednesday and you know what that means.
Casino Gauntlet Battle Royal - winner challenges Jon Moxley for AEW Championship next week.
Bobby Lashley vs. Mark Briscoe.
Will Ospreay vs. Buddy Matthews.
Kris Statlander vs. Toni Storm vs. Willow Nightingale
Kenny Omega returns to Dynamite.
MJF to appear.
Jeff Jarrett to appear.
Casino Gauntlet Battle Royal - winner challenges Jon Moxley for AEW Championship next week.
Bobby Lashley vs. Mark Briscoe.
Will Ospreay vs. Buddy Matthews.
Kris Statlander vs. Toni Storm vs. Willow Nightingale
Kenny Omega returns to Dynamite.
MJF to appear.
Jeff Jarrett to appear.
Still tweeting from the great beyond. That’s some real hate
Hulk Hogan made an appearance on Raw to hype up his Real American Beer, which is now partially owned by WWE and featured on the Raw ring canvas.
Rather than being greeted by raucous cheers like he was for much of his in-ring career, Hogan was heartily booed throughout the segment, even when he brought up the names of other legendary wrestlers.
Given how fans at the Intuit Dome in Inglewood, California, received Hogan, WWE is reportedly considering handling its partnership with Hogan differently moving forward.
According to WrestleVotes on Backstage Pass (h/t Steve Carrier of Ringside News), fans "may not see" Hogan make live appearances as often in the future. Instead, the company could opt to use him in documentaries, commercials and other pre-taped scenarios.
Russ Weakland of the Daily Mail later reported that a source indicated Hogan was initially "disappointed" by the fan reaction on Raw before looking at it in a more positive light.
Hogan reportedly looked at the situation through the lens of any reaction being a good reaction in pro wrestling, and there has reportedly already been talk of Hogan portraying a heel character should he resurface on WWE programming.
While Hogan was a beloved babyface in the 1980s and early 1990s, he also played one of the top villains in pro wrestling history as the leader of the nWo in WCW.
The catalyst for fans turning on Hogan seemed to be the 2015 audio that featured him using racial slurs. He has also come under fire more recently for his staunch support of United States President-Elect Donald Trump.
Rather than being greeted by raucous cheers like he was for much of his in-ring career, Hogan was heartily booed throughout the segment, even when he brought up the names of other legendary wrestlers.
Given how fans at the Intuit Dome in Inglewood, California, received Hogan, WWE is reportedly considering handling its partnership with Hogan differently moving forward.
According to WrestleVotes on Backstage Pass (h/t Steve Carrier of Ringside News), fans "may not see" Hogan make live appearances as often in the future. Instead, the company could opt to use him in documentaries, commercials and other pre-taped scenarios.
Russ Weakland of the Daily Mail later reported that a source indicated Hogan was initially "disappointed" by the fan reaction on Raw before looking at it in a more positive light.
Hogan reportedly looked at the situation through the lens of any reaction being a good reaction in pro wrestling, and there has reportedly already been talk of Hogan portraying a heel character should he resurface on WWE programming.
While Hogan was a beloved babyface in the 1980s and early 1990s, he also played one of the top villains in pro wrestling history as the leader of the nWo in WCW.
The catalyst for fans turning on Hogan seemed to be the 2015 audio that featured him using racial slurs. He has also come under fire more recently for his staunch support of United States President-Elect Donald Trump.
Has any living wrestler lost as much goodwill as Hogan? The guy is one of the most recognizable names in all of wrestling history and he basically has go away heat.
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I wonder what they pay Living Color (or whoever holds the rights) for Cult of Personality?
Other than flair none of them have ever been anywhere near the popularity of Hogan
Right but part of it was lost goodwill fast.
Admittedly if the answer is for both questions then flair is the only answer.
But the others tanked their stock pretty fast.
Ya I’m thinking hangman - swerve looks like he’s going to be feuding with richochet.
I don’t disagree but think they’ll do Okada/omega first - they’ve been hinting at that feud for months.
