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CI Wrestling Thread #56

Are you insinuating TK doesn’t know his audience?
AEW has a niche audience for sure and Tony overestimates how much of his base is like he and Meltzer.

I think I noticed how evident this was by the amount of comments who had no idea about Nigel and Danielson’s ROH feud.
 
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Dynamite for this evening...

New AEW Champion Jon Moxley to appear.
AEW TBS Champion Mercedes Mone vs. Queen Aminata.
The Elite - Kazuchika Okada & The Young Bucks vs. Orange Cassidy & Kyle O'Reilly & Rocky Romero
Lio Rush vs. Shelton Benjamin with MVP.
Jay White vs Christian Cage.
FTR vs. Big Bill & Bryan Keith.
Adam Cole returns.
 
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Apparently the Takeshita isn't happening so I deleted that part. It was a fake graphic that looked like it was from AEW that lots of people, including myself, thought was true.
 
Adam Cole finding success in pro wrestling despite being his size and having no muscle is really hard to comprehend. Growing up, guys had to have a look, be muscular or if you were smaller, you had to be a high flyer or something and even those guys were jacked (they called Bret, Eddie, HBK, and Benoit small).

Cole is like your waiter at Cheesecake Factory being booked as a big star.
 
Cole's always been one of my favorite wrestlers but yeah maybe a little more working out and less video gaming. Or even cut the hair or something.

The potential is there with the Moxley group, not sure that I have faith in TK to make it work.

Enjoyed a lot of Dynamite last night, still waiting on them to explain how Cole is the good guy and MJF the bad guy. Maybe Bob Backlund can come out and say, "Adam Cole, he's good now." Hey it worked with Hulk Hogan 40 years ago.

Shelton Benjamin is still awesome.

Meant to post this yesterday, Uncle Dave talking about NXT's big ratings drop from Tuesday night. We'll see what Dynamite gets.

 
Shelton is so good that it became a detriment to his direction. I think he never got his fair shot because he was too good at helping others become great. There is no doubt that he could've led the company.......but Vince.
 
No one should be surprised a match like that goes long. Can't have a BANGER in six minutes and all talent must be booked as nearly equal. Swerve could have a match with a dipshit from ROH or Rampage and it's going at least 14 minutes, with picture and picture breaks, and the offense will be 55/45. Why? Because we must raise up all talent in the ring so us fans can compliment both competitors on a hard fought match well done.

(I can't wait to see Bobby Lashley booked this way against someone the size of a Funko Pop)
 
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Shelton is so good that it became a detriment to his direction. I think he never got his fair shot because he was too good at helping others become great. There is no doubt that he could've led the company.......but Vince.
To be fair it seemed like he was always in tag teams (Charlie hass) or stables and lacked the mic work but always was a great wrestler - didn’t he tag with Brock in ovw.
 
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That Meltzer tweet a few posts up is amazing considering NXT has beaten AEW again. Ethan Page looking smarter every week for bolting.

The Moxley storyline can work but I'm skeptical. The other take over storyline failed miserably. AEW is the only company who'd try two different take over stories in less than ten months. It's also not a great sign that Moxley's crew is defending (?) AEW's honor or something by going after Dark Order type guys. Your new world champion is screwing around with jobbers. It's cute to say MoxWo but Hall and Nash didn't come in and have a feud with Norman Smiley. Bischoff > Khan as it relates to booking.

I also think Hurt Business will do well there but there's so many groups and titles that no one stands out. How is the Don Callus Family still a thing and Ricochet is facing AR Fox this week on Collision so he's just another guy a few weeks in.
 
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Every time I see people talk about ratings
stone cold wrestling GIF by WWE
 
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I get a kick out of it. It shows whether wrestling is actually hot or not. When half your show is women (WWE), there's a downward trend. When most of your show is dream matches and randoms with no charisma (AEW), people bolt. It shows that one guy (Punk, Rock) can change everything and one feud (Punk/Drew, Swerve/Page) can bring money in.

They won't matter as streamers take over but I find it fascinating that in year five, AEW with a billionaire's pocketbook, WBD behind them, and an endless roster is having weekly struggles against a fancier, wealthier version of OVW from the early 2000s.
 
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Dynamite did 633,000 and a .20

Smackdown for tonight

Roman Reigns and Jimmy Uso need "him."
The debut of The Motor City Machine Guns.
Will WWE play Kevin Owens' video?
Los Garzas in action.
 
To be fair it seemed like he was always in tag teams (Charlie hass) or stables and lacked the mic work but always was a great wrestler - didn’t he tag with Brock in ovw.
I'm sure they did. I'm pretty sure that Shelton was one of Brock's college coaches at Minnesota.
 
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I never actually got to an OVW event back in the day but they held shows (weekly?) in the gym that was once apart of my elementary school. It's wild to know I could've went back to that little gym and saw guys like Brock and Benjamin. They did tag and I was in the crowd for this dark match:



Was there with my dad and I remember telling him the big guy (Brock) was going to end up a megastar because I knew how Vince booked and Lesnar was so athletic.
 
I watched bits and pieces of smackdown…

Man that crowd goes nuts for Jey Uso idk if he needs the belt but crowd loves him

I don’t follow nxt but lash legend looks pretty good - I guess she’s part of the Tiffany Stratton group of bring in an athlete and mold them into the wwe style
 
Also it’s evident last night and I’ve said it for years Montez Ford needs and deserves a singles push even if it’s a US title feud with LA Knight - he has all the tools - maybe even a younger version of Shelton Benjamin - a guy that’s been in tag teams pretty much his entire career.
 
Also it’s evident last night and I’ve said it for years Montez Ford needs and deserves a singles push even if it’s a US title feud with LA Knight - he has all the tools - maybe even a younger version of Shelton Benjamin - a guy that’s been in tag teams pretty much his entire career.
I think Street Profits are the top tagteam in wwe
 
Once I had enough of the UK game Saturday night I turned over and watched the end of Collision and Battle of the Belts. They were both pretty good. They even had Anna Jay win one of those eliminator matches so she gets a title shot against Mariah May in a couple of weeks.
Another thing I've noticed is AEW is doing promos for upcoming shows and actually announcing matches in advance like they used to.

As previously rumored NXT is going to air on Wednesday November 6th and the show will be from the old ECW arena.

Raw for tonight

WWE Intercontinental Champion Jey Uso vs. Bron Breakker.
Seth Rollins and Bronson Reed to face off.
Rey Mysterio and Dragon Lee vs. American Made - WWE World Tag Team Championship Number One Contender's Tournament.
New Day vs. Authors of Pain - WWE World Tag Team Championship Number One Contender's Tournament.
 
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