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Well, the lineup of Reed, Dillingham, Reeves, Bradshaw and Mitchell went on a huge run against Penn. That’s two bigs. Cal lives rent free in many of your heads
No his mistakes he has made that have cost him games do. Mitchell and Bradshaw can work I agree if Mitchell is hitting shots, but cal will try and play ugo and Bradshaw together and it will not work
 
I don't see anything misquoted. Didn't quote word for word but paraphrased to say the same thing. Figure out how to play with two bigs, don't clog the lane with high low. What was misquoted?

Saying we HAVE to figure out a way to play with 2 bigs (implying that Cal is determined, no matter what, to figure out how to return to his typical 2 big lineups, which is what is causing all the hysteria in this thread), vs. Cal asking "What is the best way to play with 2 bigs?"

Big difference in the "shock value" when reading it.

Listenng to the clip gave me different context than what Jeff Drummond was implying, which is what he was going for.
 
No his mistakes he has made that have cost him games do. Mitchell and Bradshaw can work I agree if Mitchell is hitting shots, but cal will try and play ugo and Bradshaw together and it will not work
I would not be so sure of that. Bradshaw can shoot well enough that his man has to play him honest on the outside. Ugo is then free to be the "one in" in the four out sets. What you miss out on in that scenario is Tre's passing which is elite. So, I feel that Tre and Bradshaw are option 1 no doubt, but I think you can steal some mins with Ugo and Bradshaw if needed. Time will tell.

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I would not be so sure of that. Bradshaw can shoot well enough that his man has to play him honest on the outside. Ugo is then free to be the "one in" in the four out sets. What you miss out on in that scenario is Tre's passing witch is elite. So I feel that Tre and Bradshaw is option 1 no doubt, but I think you can steal some mins with Ugo and Bradshaw if needed. Time will tell.

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I’m good with Mitchell and Bradshaw as long as Mitchell can space the floor. I need to see more from Bradshaw before I can say he is a good enough shooter.
 
Saying we HAVE to figure out a way to play with 2 bigs (implying that Cal is determined, no matter what, to figure out how to return to his typical 2 big lineups, which is what is causing all the hysteria in this thread), vs. Cal asking "What is the best way to play with 2 bigs?"

Big difference in the "shock value" when reading it.

Listenng to the clip gave me different context than what Jeff Drummond was implying, which is what he was going for.
You're reading things into it that aren't there. Stirring up drama for no reason like you're trying to accuse others of doing.
 
Yeah , I said “right now “ because I keep thinking Edwards is going to show me why some project him as the number 1 pick . I didn’t see him in high school so I expect there’s a lot more there than what I‘ve seen .

I keep holding that same hope too. Although off the top of my head I can’t think of any players that were poor shooters for the first 1/4 of a season and eventually become a solid deep threat. But even if he could get up to 33% or so it at least means he has to be guarded behind the arc.
 
You're reading things into it that aren't there. Stirring up drama for no reason like you're trying to accuse others of doing.

There are so many people on Twitter saying exactly what I am saying. It's not that hard to understand why anyone would feel like that.

 
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Well, the lineup of Reed, Dillingham, Reeves, Bradshaw and Mitchell went on a huge run against Penn. That’s two bigs. Cal lives rent free in many of your heads

You realize Penn is the equivalent of a first-round NCAA opponent, right?

Just because something works against Penn (hint: we had a supreme height advantage) doesn’t mean it’s going to work against elite teams. I will reserve judgment on the Mitchell/Bradshaw pairing until after the UNC game.
 
Two bigs made the 2015 team a powerhouse the problem was our guards our crunch time guards were streaky shooters who possessed little nba talent.
Right. The Harrison’s weren’t great by any means. Everyone knows that Booker and Ulis should’ve ate up most of those minutes at guard
 
Why does the team "have to" learn to play with them 2 bigs? Did he promise them playing time or something? He should go with what works the best rather than having to figure out something.
He's (a) aiming to showcase his guys for June and (b) kinda, sorta, maybe realizing he's running out of time.
 
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I'm not going to read this thread. No. I'm going to play Carnac..

[Puts the edge of the envelope against the temple of my turbaned head] Calipari is going to [scantily supported but thoroughly imagined outrage].

How close was I?
 
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You realize Penn is the equivalent of a first-round NCAA opponent, right?

Just because something works against Penn (hint: we had a supreme height advantage) doesn’t mean it’s going to work against elite teams. I will reserve judgment on the Mitchell/Bradshaw pairing until after the UNC game.
UNC is the real “ telling game” unc is a sweet 16 or elite 8 type of game. They have a advantage with bacot and we have advantage with our guards and speed, I just hope cal lets them use our advantage
 
You realize Penn is the equivalent of a first-round NCAA opponent, right?

Just because something works against Penn (hint: we had a supreme height advantage) doesn’t mean it’s going to work against elite teams. I will reserve judgment on the Mitchell/Bradshaw pairing until after the UNC game.
These Cal pumpers are thrilled with a first-round win anymore. That’s how low he has taken our program.
 
That's kinda what he said. Doesn't want to clog the lane and play high-low, the one thing none of us want to see played, at least not every time down the court.

Our only saving grace here is that Bradshaw and Z can hit 3s. And, we can't have two 7-footers in there - it has to be one of the three based on the need, and Mitchell. We simply can't go long without the passing vision and leadership Tre brings to the table.
People talk a lot about having enough shooters on the court at a time, and of course I agree, but there's a big difference between someone who can catch and shoot, vs someone who can shoot and is a ball handler. For me it's 1a) shooters, 1b) ball handlers......... 2) size.

Even if one of our two bigs on the floor is a shooter, it's still one less creator. What I think made the early-season lineups with Tre at the 5 so good was that he is a really good passer and is usually quicker than the other team's 5. We pretty much had five guys who could shoot, attack off the bounce, and create for others at all times (except to some degree Adou, who is great attacking the rim in space, but doesn't provide the shooting or ability to beat his man others do).

I would love to see more lineups with Reed, Dilly, and Reeves on the floor at the same time. Throw Wagner on the court at the same time and see who can outscore us.
 
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Saying we HAVE to figure out a way to play with 2 bigs (implying that Cal is determined, no matter what, to figure out how to return to his typical 2 big lineups, which is what is causing all the hysteria in this thread), vs. Cal asking "What is the best way to play with 2 bigs?"

Big difference in the "shock value" when reading it.

Listenng to the clip gave me different context than what Jeff Drummond was implying, which is what he was going for.
Jeff has been solid for a long time….you not so much
 
If it’s Tre and Bradshaw or tre and Z it shouldn’t be a problem but if he tries to play Onyenso and Bradshaw that’s an issue. Tre is more of a point forward with his assist numbers.
As some of us predicted, Tre no longer has an advantage with the opposing team’s PF guarding him. He’s not even hitting his wide open looks over the last four games, and now he’s going to get less and less of them.

So yes, Tre and a big is a problem. Thiero is the guy we need at the four. Sure it would be nice if he could knock down some threes - but even without that element he’s better for that position than Mitchell imo.
 
Yep, at least Cal acknowledges not clogging up the lane with 2 bigs in that quote. So, seems like he realizes we need that space open in the lane (for Wagner and others to drive into). With Tre as our big at the 4, we won't be clogging up the lane even if Ugonna is in. Best lineup will be with Tre/Bradshaw or Tre/Big Z in at the big spots though.
And with Tre at the 4, we have a guy whom the other team doesn’t have to worry about driving the lane. If Thiero is there, they can sag off him, but he can still get to the land, crash the boards, etc. If Mitchell is there, they only have to make sure he doesn’t get open looks.
 
And with Tre at the 4, we have a guy whom the other team doesn’t have to worry about driving the lane. If Thiero is there, they can sag off him, but he can still get to the land, crash the boards, etc. If Mitchell is there, they only have to make sure he doesn’t get open looks.
He doesn't do it often to be sure, but Tre actually had a great drive to the rim against Penn from top of the key where he got a wide open layup. Thiero does some good things but I'd still much rather have Mitchell in at the 4 than him (paired with Bradshaw at the 5).
 
Best lineup is Adou at the 4, Tre at the 5, and some combination of 3 guards. If that guard combination includes Reeves, then Wagner MUST be in the game with him to make up for his poor defense. Sub Bradshaw at the 5 and Edwards at the 4. Burks gets spot minutes if any foul trouble. That’s your lineup.
 
He doesn't do it often to be sure, but Tre actually had a great drive to the rim against Penn from top of the key where he got a wide open layup. Thiero does some good things but I'd still much rather have Mitchell in at the 4 than him (paired with Bradshaw at the 5).
Time will tell. For me, I love a guy who attacks the rack, has a nose for offensive rebounds, plays sound defense, and is happy to take 4-6 shots a game and be a clean up guy. And we really don’t even know how well Thiero can pass in the middle of the zone because he hasn’t had the opportunity.

I believe that if Adou were to play 28-30 minutes a game, this team has a better chance of winning night in and night out.

Let Bradshaw and Mitchell man the 5 and let Edwards and Thiero man the 4, and sometimes the 3.
 
He's (a) aiming to showcase his guys for June and (b) kinda, sorta, maybe realizing he's running out of time.
What is there to showcase with Tre Mitchell though? I 100% want Cal out - and do think he wants to showcase guys and retire as the dude that had more NBA guys than anyone. With that said, he should be playing Thiero more (whom NBA teams are showing interest in) and Mitchell less (who is here because NBA teams have no interest in).
 
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Jeff has been solid for a long time….you not so much

Lol whatever you say, Champ.

Sorry that I'm not in the club that runs around trashing our players and our program all the time and determined to be negative no matter what.

I defended Reeves all summer when everyone here was trashing him when it looked like he might not come back.

I defended Dillingham after Canada when some on here said he wasn't good enough to play here.

I defended Wagner as people were crushing the kid and saying he was terrible, "Cal's boy", "shouldn't play", etc. etc.

Defended Bradshaw all Summer and Fall from those who said "He'll never play", "Shaedon Sharpe 2.0", "Protecting his draft stock"


I think I'm pretty solid because I am Kentucky first- I don't trash our players and program every chance I get.

Sorry that you don't take the same stance as me.

If that doesn't make me "solid" in your little eyes then so be it.
 
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Cal is going to play to the player’s strengths.

It takes a while to figure out those strengths and how they work together or don’t work together.

We are finally back to Cal type players where he can mix and match.

This team is going to learn to play high level defense.

This is a FF team in the makings.

I enjoy watching them get better and better.
 
What is there to showcase with Tre Mitchell though? I 100% want Cal out - and do think he wants to showcase guys and retire as the dude that had more NBA guys than anyone. With that said, he should be playing Thiero more (whom NBA teams are showing interest in) and Mitchell less (who is here because NBA teams have no interest in).
I agree. What I'm saying is that IMO he's at this point where he's torn between getting guys (not necessarily Mitchell) time because he feels he owes them that rather than they're a player that should be playing, and realizing that throwing two bigs out there at the same time so that he can have that formidable defensive team just isn't going to work. His playtime in the sandbox is over.
 
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Right. The Harrison’s weren’t great by any means. Everyone knows that Booker and Ulis should’ve ate up most of those minutes at guard
It probably wouldn’t have mattered . With Cal putting the offense in the deep freeze and the subsequent THREE shot clock violations we were doomed anyway.
 
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Or maybe cal how about you just don’t play two bigs at once, that’s the answer to your question right there
I’m fine with two bigs at once for stretches of the game. It has to involve Mitchell for it to make sense, and possibly Big Z when he hits the floor. Bradshaw and Ugo at the same time is a No-no but any other two big combo is fine IMO for 10-15 minutes per game.

This team will be Elite, this isn’t our teams from the past 5 years. We have the firepower and makeup of a dangerous team, our guard play alone is enough to make a run. If we get our frontcourt playing how we need them too that takes us to the next level.
 
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