Cal offered lifetime contract from UK

[EliteBlue]

It's not the same money or security as Kentucky and UCLA sure isn't Kentucky but it is still sunny California. If he or the little woman wanted to rub elbows with more celebs then that would be the place. I think he stays but what a temptation. UCLA doesn't come with lifetime contracts though and that spells love ... or does it spell scared?

First: I don’t think he leaves. I don’t think he leaves. I don’t think he leaves. Now that is clear...

But as sensitive as the daughters can be with our overly passionate and emotional fanbase sometimes, a step down in support but still an elite school may be welcoming for the twilight tour of his career.

And on the same note, the girls may prefer LA from a business and career aspect and it could be a family oriented decision more than a basketball or money decision.

But if he did leave it would be a bad look on our fanbase for running off a HOF coach. And could you imagine if he went and won 1 or 2 titles at UCLA:..the “what could have beens” combined with the title gap widening. Absolutely nightmare scenario.

 

[FishersBlue]

It’s not about be satisfied. It’s about realistic. And K didn’t have any his first ten years. Wright didn’t have any his first 15 years. People like you would have fired both of them.

Cal has made around 80 million dollars overall at UK. Maybe a little more. 80 million as a college basketball coach, if he coaches here another decade he will make nearly 200 million dollars if you include retention bonuses.

200 million dollars.

What do you expect for that, and are you willing to hold him accountable?

 

[Super Herro]

Lets do it. And hopefully all the people that bad mouth him on here find new teams.

Win Win.

 

[irishcat1965]

Cal has made around 80 million dollars overall at UK. Maybe a little more. 80 million as a college basketball coach, if he coaches here another decade he will make nearly 200 million dollars if you include retention bonuses.

200 million dollars.

What do you expect for that, and are you willing to hold him accountable?

It’s a bargain for what he has done for the university. A bargain.

 

[JFCats22]

Cal has now signed a new contract at UK

 

[blubo]

Cal has now signed a new contract at UK

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Hell yes!!

Eat it haters!!

 

[*CatinIL*]

There you go folks. Now we shouldn't have to worry about that. Now come on Coach Cal...get a #9. Lets DO THIS!

 

[jbubb98]

That's great news, now for some more super recruiting and #9 could be in the books very soon.

 

[Bluegrassking]

The concern I have is that somehow Cal has become bigger than the program, and he is now seen by a majority of fans as irreplaceable.

This is not good in any way..not for UK and actually not for Cal.

Not irreplaceable because every human being is and so must be but I strongly believe he is our best available fit and arguably best overall fit if everyone was a plausible option.

As far as plausible alternatives? He leads the pack by a lot for me.

I don't even feel "bus proof" on the guy right now to the point that I would feel we would be reaching and rolling dice automatically if he was called up tomorrow.

I'm simply not interested in nor does the program benefit from another Coach at this time.

Eventually we will have to be on the market and should always be scouting the next coach but not in the foreseeable future but rather due to age, death, performance, or he decides to bounce all of which are too far to fret about now other than closely watching the up and comers and guys ready to take the Final step too.

 

[Jkwo]

So if you were a coach with over 40 draft picks, a plethora of resources and support, and now at the Mecca of basketball, you wouldn’t consider one title disappointing? As a competitor, the pain of a loss sticks with me more than the joy of a win. If I were a coach and I looked back on my career with the resume Cal has, I’d be thinking about a lot of what if’s...

I don't know.

What is this coach's emotional maturity and level of education in statistics?

If it's grade school up to average middle schooler, I'm throwing a temper tantrum, because I have no sense of historical perspective nor can my mind even begin to wrap itself around the world of possibilities represented by the NCAA tournament in contrast with other methods of selecting a champion (such as seven game series).

If it's high school up to early college level, I'm still a little emotional over the exits, but I realize that logically, everything seems to be going pretty well.

If I'm someone with a real scientific adult level of statistical understanding, I'm thanking the lord every day for the tremendously improbable amount of success that I have. I recognize the childish nonsense underlying the panicky thoughts of those who now want to hire Wright after crushing him for never being able to make the final four just weeks ago.

But even the middle schooler would have no excuse in trying to rope in the first half of Cal's head coaching career with the second half. I already pointed out that it was a cheap and silly trick, yet you continue to use it against him, which demonstrates that you're purposely trying to angle.

Simply put, if you claim that Cal's years at UMass, one of the most impressive mid-major runs in history, form part of the case against him (or for that matter the first 3/4 of his career at Memphis), you're either a genuine drooling imbecile or a crotchety hater who can never be brought around on him. So which is it?

Also, there is a very simple, logical reason why sheer number of draft picks (or number of five stars, which is the pervert Zipp's version of your argument) is a sub-optimal proxy for roster quality at any point in time. If you can't work it out on your own, I'd be happy to discuss it, but first you have to address the nonsense about the first half of Cal's career. I need to know that you understand the fatal flaw in that argument.

 

[jbubb98]

A lifetime contract from Kentucky, all but a few coaches would love it and we know who they are.

 

[Fox2monk]

Hear what? He already declined the offer - it was right there in the article excerpts from the OP.

Cal could live stream he’s staying on here, sign a contact in blood that he would have to die if he left and some would still question if he’s for real..
Then you have guys like calsthebomb who actively want him to leave.

 

[Jkwo]

The concern I have is that somehow Cal has become bigger than the program, and he is now seen by a majority of fans as irreplaceable.

This is not good in any way..not for UK and actually not for Cal.

He's obviously not, because Rick and Rupp were no less impressive. The whole mystique of UK revolves around the fact that five coaches have won a title.

But at the same time, only an idiot would run off Rick or Rupp with no character issues still winning at an 80% clip. Same applies to Cal.

 

[jameslee32]

 

[Fox2monk]

It's not the same money or security as Kentucky and UCLA sure isn't Kentucky but it is still sunny California. If he or the little woman wanted to rub elbows with more celebs then that would be the place. I think he stays but what a temptation. UCLA doesn't come with lifetime contracts though and that spells love ... or does it spell scared?

Seeing how crazy most celebs are nowadays I wouldn’t want to rub anything against them. Probably get a std.

 

[Fox2monk]

Let’s be real, Pitino has two titles. We all know that the NCAA plays favoritism. Other teams are cheating just the same but they only enforce the rules on certain programs and coaches. It’s funny to laugh at and not see it in the history books, but he was the coach of the number 1 team in 2013 that won 6 straight games and won the national title. They presented them the trophy. To act like it didn’t happen is just denying the facts. If you’d like my list of best, current coaches for the U.K. job, it would be:

1. Calipari with an updated philosophy in recruiting and game planning
2. Brad Stevens
3. Billy Donovan
4. Chris Beard
5. Tony Bennett
6. Bruce Pearl

Jay Wright fell outta favor after one year?

 

[Fox2monk]

Calipari to UCLA?

OK...UCLA has to figure in the amount of tax dollars that the California Republic <=== is going to take out of each paycheck. Future UCLA BB Coach...I hope you're paying attention to that little nugget.

Needs to changed to California Democratic Socalist State of ILLEGAL Immigrants.

 

[JFCats22]

“It had nothing to do with all the other stuff. Every year that I’m here, something at the end of the year happens. Someone’s trying to call or talk,” Calipari said. “You think of what we’ve built, the culture that we’ve built. We’ve done it all kind of different ways. We’ve got good kids. The academics, that we’re allowed to give lifetime scholarships. We’re allowed to bring these kids back. We insure these kids. This is a situation and a culture that’s taken time to build. Where else would I want to coach?”

He added, “This is a unique place and I appreciate the opportunities I’ve had here.”

The timing is impeccable. Ten years ago to the date, John Calipari was introduced as the Cats’ head coach.

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...tract-extension-to-finish-career-at-kentucky/

 

[Hoopcatjc]

The UCLA offer is on the ESPN scroll under “The Lead”

 

[Fox2monk]

Just Zion on this team and we are champs.

No doubt about it. Everybody knew when we lost him it was a big blow but If people couldn’t see that him on this team is champs then nothing will. He’s the guy who gets a bucket or foul everytime we need one. Our offense struggles. Give him the ball and clear out. With 30 second left in our game who doesn’t believe he gets a bucket or gets fouled?

 

[JFCats22]

 

[plumdog69]

Awesome Coach Cal is the best!!!!

 

[Kampus Korner]

Tickled to death about this. I hope the Cal haters find another team to support. They poison the fan base in general and this board in particular. Just take your no account whiny ass carcus out of here. GTFO!

 

[Hoopcatjc]

Thank you UK admin for doing the right thing and keeping the best man for the job as long as we can.

Just today, I was talking about next year to a coworker and his reply was, “this year isn’t over yet......”
Well, it is for me, I am already in preseason 2019-2020 mode. Cal can get to work now, we need to keep Herro, Hagans, EJ, Nick.
KJ would benefit the most by returning but I do not expect it.
Great class coming in, let’s add another big with Hurt or McDaniels, or grad transfer Sestina (who is on campus right now, a 16/8 guy with experience) and we are preseason #1 with a better chance to win a title than this past season.

 

[jockstrap_mcgee]

Needs to changed to California Democratic Socalist State of Immigrants.

What do you have against immigrants?

 

[oldsports_]

Needs to changed to California Democratic Socalist State of Illegal Immigrants.

 

[Fox2monk]

What do you have against immigrants?

Nothing if they are legal. California’s are not. “Sanctuary state”

 

[Fox2monk]

@oldsports_ edited for clarity thanks

 

[KentuckyRLD]

Coach Calipari is a great coach. Period. He fits UK as well as any coach that UK could possibly find. I hope he takes the lifetime contract and I also hope that Kentucky fans appreciate what he has done and what he will do for this program. Being competitive nearly every year is a major accomplishment. Winning a national championship is an even greater accomplishment. He will win more championships.

 

[CalipariCapo]

I don't know.

What is this coach's emotional maturity and level of education in statistics?

If it's grade school up to average middle schooler, I'm throwing a temper tantrum, because I have no sense of historical perspective nor can my mind even begin to wrap itself around the world of possibilities represented by the NCAA tournament in contrast with other methods of selecting a champion (such as seven game series).

If it's high school up to early college level, I'm still a little emotional over the exits, but I realize that logically, everything seems to be going pretty well.

If I'm someone with a real scientific adult level of statistical understanding, I'm thanking the lord every day for the tremendously improbable amount of success that I have. I recognize the childish nonsense underlying the panicky thoughts of those who now want to hire Wright after crushing him for never being able to make the final four just weeks ago.

But even the middle schooler would have no excuse in trying to rope in the first half of Cal's head coaching career with the second half. I already pointed out that it was a cheap and silly trick, yet you continue to use it against him, which demonstrates that you're purposely trying to angle.

Simply put, if you claim that Cal's years at UMass, one of the most impressive mid-major runs in history, form part of the case against him (or for that matter the first 3/4 of his career at Memphis), you're either a genuine drooling imbecile or a crotchety hater who can never be brought around on him. So which is it?

Also, there is a very simple, logical reason why sheer number of draft picks (or number of five stars, which is the pervert Zipp's version of your argument) is a sub-optimal proxy for roster quality at any point in time. If you can't work it out on your own, I'd be happy to discuss it, but first you have to address the nonsense about the first half of Cal's career. I need to know that you understand the fatal flaw in that argument.

Sounds like you’ve been going after people that really want Cal gone. At no point have I ever said that I want him gone. I’ve always been on Cal’s side and was hoping for him to be hired when we hired BCG. I’m by no means putting down Cal’s accomplishments. He’s done an amazing job BUT when he was hired, we all expected more. In ten years, with over 35 draft picks, I believe we all expected at least 2 titles. As many have mentioned, none of this would even be discussed if we had sealed the deal in 2015. Coach K is averaging 1 title every 8 years or so. Cal is averaging 1 every 35 years...

I see that we are losing to teams in the tournament because we slow the pace of the game to a snails pace (16 ppg lower than seasons average), struggle under pressure situations, offense stall multiple times in a game, and no ability to build continuity and a connection to the players that we root for and support. I’m not asking for a change in leadership, I’m hoping for a shift in philosophy, priorities, recruiting, and game preparation. I would also like to see a shake up on the bench and get an offensive minded coach like Steve Alford if he is unable to land somewhere.

 

[CalipariCapo]

Jay Wright fell outta favor after one year?

I’ve never lobbied for Jay Wright to be the coach here? I don’t think he would enjoy the ambassador side of things and I don’t think he would do well in the fishbowl that is U.K. basketball.

 

[MWes11]

 

[KingOfBBN]

Let’s be real, Pitino has two titles. We all know that the NCAA plays favoritism. Other teams are cheating just the same but they only enforce the rules on certain programs and coaches. It’s funny to laugh at and not see it in the history books, but he was the coach of the number 1 team in 2013 that won 6 straight games and won the national title. They presented them the trophy. To act like it didn’t happen is just denying the facts. If you’d like my list of best, current coaches for the U.K. job, it would be:

1. Calipari with an updated philosophy in recruiting and game planning
2. Brad Stevens
3. Billy Donovan
4. Chris Beard
5. Tony Bennett
6. Bruce Pearl

Stevens would never leave the Celtics to go back to college. Donovan might.

 

[Xception]

Great news, especially with that consultant to the program role. He's too important and too influential and too creative not to keep him involved even after he retires.

And since I know it's heading that way, for anyone critical of Cal, establish your criteria for a great coach, in concrete, measurable terms, and then give us your list of great coaches and let's apply it to them. If you can't or won't, then keep your emotional whining to yourself.

Those people don’t even know what measurable terms mean, like literally.

 

[CalipariCapo]

Stevens would never leave the Celtics to go back to college. Donovan might.

Oh I know. That’s why Cal is the right man for this job. Happy with the lifetime contract that he received. He’s earned it. Just think there needs to be a few tweaks to get us back atop the mountain.

I don’t believe Donovan would come here either. He’s a Pitino guy and he’s already turned us down twice. I don’t think he would want to live in Coach Cal’s shadow. The guy to keep an eye on is Chris Beard. 4th season of D1 basketball and he has a Final Four and an Elite 8. Also a great developer of talent as that coaching staff has turned Culver into a lotto pick this year.

 

[Black Diamond Cat]

Major. But then again Mitch is the same moron who gave stoops extensions and money for winning 6 games. Wouldn’t shock me if Mitch went all the way up to 15-20M per year to keep Cal.

I am sure the athletic board, as well as Dr. Capiluto also had to OK this huge deal.

 

[Ben101er]

Coach Cal will seemingly only get credit from some in this fan base once he leaves the program and we see how difficult things are once he is gone.

Agree. I have always said that once he leaves/retires, this will be looked at as the "good old days."

 

[JBHolmesfan]

Cal has the chance to leave a Rupp like legacy if he wants to. He certainly won't be here for 40 years, but he can do some very special stuff if he stays for a while.

 

[CatfanMike47]

the only part that give me heartburn - and it really sounded more like speculation on the writers part was Cal trying to decide if he was appreciated enough to stay at Kentucky

if that is true on his part then there is some read between the lines stuff there

and I'm not gonna listen to any bullcrap about him getting worked up over some internet message board posters.

It’s nit just the internet! I’ve read a quite bit of stupid comments coming from entitled little biotches on Twitter and Facebook

 

[CatfanMike47]

I get this, but just the idea that Cal wants to be shown the love and a lifetime contract follows...it’s gross to me.

I don’t believe lifetime contracts are good for any university. I believe it also reduces pressure and incentive.

Maybe you should go root for IU again!