Cal, CMS, and NIL

[cathouse]

OK. I have been holding off on posting this for several days now because I know I am going to catch hel* from some posters for saying it out loud.

I have never seen Cal happier and I have never seen CMS more upset at what is taking place , specifically with recruiting and NIL at UK right now.

Turn back a couple of weeks. Cal was pi$$ed. Pi$$ed at Mitch and his stand on NIL. Cal couldn't sign a top player that was actually going to play at UK if his life depended on it.

Cal was leaving. Cal was retiring. Cal was angry. Cal is going to meet with Mitch and get some things ironed out on what HE needs to be able to recruit the top players again.

Suddenly, Wagner is back in the picture again. Dillingham decommits and is looking at Cal, Bratcher is interested in UK, Cal gets a couple of top commitments to UK again.

Cal is happy. Swaggy Cal is back. Happy Cal announces he is staying out his contract. Suddenly, all is well in Happy Cal's camp.

Meanwhile, CMS is as pi$$ed as I have ever witnessed him publicly. Can't compete with UT to sign a 3 star CB out of Bowling F-ing Green, KY.

He and Marrow go from a top 15 team back to a top 35 team in recruiting. Every school in the SEC not named Vandy is pouring NIL money into football........other than, guess who??? Mitch and UK.

And please don't give me that "Mitch will never.....". Seems like he was able to get enough booster help to get Cal over the recruiting hump and happy again.

Just unable to reach out and help the number 1 money making sport on campus and the coach that worked an entire decade to drag UK football kicking and screaming to the upper echelon of the SEC and build a real football program at UK for the first time in history.

And for CMS to have to go on a live broadcast and beg for support for our football program TWICE, makes me sick to my stomach.

CMS is at the point of offering his own salary for NIL, but of course THAT is against the rules.

Cal is happy. Cal is staying. Mitch is happy. Evidently the big money boosters are satisfied......

And our best football coach since Bear Bryant is about to blow a gasket.

I think I know who will and who will not stay out their contract at UK.

Unbelievable.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Cal was never leaving and he was never retiring. I cringe when people just post false stuff on a message board. He has a ridiculous lifetime contract and has no reason to leave as Mitch/UK is not close to firing him like some of us fans would prefer. I think the recruiting uptick has more to do with Chin & Coach O being back/a year+ in the system as recruiters than some secret backroom NIL deals and the fact that Cal is one of the best recruiters in college basketball history and the UK brand is one of the strongest in college basketball history and pretty much recruits itself. For all the talk of down recruiting classes UK has always been top 5 or higher for the most part in Cal's tenure (perhaps every year, do not have time to check). UK has also just secured Dillingham and UK was the 2nd option when he chose NC State previously so not sure how this is some coup for UK as UK was the obvious choice this time around. None of the other guys you mentioned have signed with UK yet and the guys you are referencing have always had UK in their top 2-3 lists of schools, including Wagner. When did Wagner leave the picture by the way? UK was always considered/is considered the co-favorite with UL just like they are the co-favorite with UT for Edwards. We know UL pays more than UK in NIL so there is no way UK can outbid UL for Wagner so it must be another reason...same with UT with Edwards. I am sorry to destroy your argument here but it is extremely weak IMO.

I am not sure how NIL works (I fully admit this), but from my understanding UK/Mitch are not allowing Calipari & Stoops and other coaches to promise NIL money/deals to incoming recruits and that has been a pain. I think the person you should be upset with at UK is Mitch and also be upset with UK and the UK NIL people instate being poorer than UT and UL NIL opportunities and so forth. I do agree UK needs to do better across the board or we run the risk of being left behind. People should not be surprised that when it became semi-pro ball that schools like UT, Texas A&M are going to rise up due to deeper pockets and cheaper schools/fanbases are going to get left behind.

 

[ryanbruner]

Mitch is a mf and if he doesnt straighten his shit out we are going to lose CMS its that simple

 

[cathouse]

Cal was never leaving and he was never retiring. I cringe when people just post false stuff on a message board. He has a ridiculous lifetime contract and has no reason to leave as Mitch/UK is not close to firing him like some of us fans would prefer. I think the recruiting uptick has more to do with Chin & Coach O being back/a year+ in the system as recruiters than some secret backroom NIL deals and the fact that Cal is one of the best recruiters in college basketball history and the UK brand is one of the strongest in college basketball history and pretty much recruits itself. For all the talk of down recruiting classes UK has always been top 5 or higher for the most part in Cal's tenure (perhaps every year, do not have time to check). UK has also just secured Dillingham and UK was the 2nd option when he chose NC State previously so not sure how this is some coup for UK as UK was the obvious choice this time around. None of the other guys you mentioned have signed with UK yet and the guys you are referencing have always had UK in their top 2-3 lists of schools, including Wagner. When did Wagner leave the picture by the way? UK was always considered/is considered the co-favorite with UL just like they are the co-favorite with UT for Edwards. We know UL pays more than UK in NIL so there is no way UK can outbid UL for Wagner so it must be another reason...same with UT with Edwards. I am sorry to destroy your argument here but it is extremely weak IMO.

I am not sure how NIL works (I fully admit this), but from my understanding UK/Mitch are not allowing Calipari & Stoops and other coaches to promise NIL money/deals to incoming recruits and that has been a pain. I think the person you should be upset with at UK is Mitch and also be upset with UK and the UK NIL people instate being poorer than UT and UL NIL opportunities and so forth. I do agree UK needs to do better across the board or we run the risk of being left behind. People should not be surprised that when it became semi-pro ball that schools like UT, Texas A&M are going to rise up due to deeper pockets and cheaper schools/fanbases are going to get left behind.

I am not upset at Cal at all. Not sure where you got that from what I posted.....

I am THRILLED that we are back in the hunt for the TOP basketball players once again.

You will never admit it has been a while since Cal has been able to sign whomever he wants, but that's ok. You do you. Having a top 5 class because you sign 7 players ranked between 10-30 in a recruiting class vs. signing the #1, #, #4 recruit and having a top 5 class are two totally different top 5 classes.

I don't think Cal just suddenly got his mojo back without some outside help in recruiting. And I agree, Chin and Coach O HAVE to be an improvement on what we had for recruiters, but they were pretty much stymied also (see Duke's class and how EARLY they committed).

Anyhow. I knew the basketball first folks wouldn't agree with my observation, but that is my perspective on the current state of UK athletisc based on the frustration level of CMS over the "all is well" attitude Cal is giving off.

Both were upset at Mitch and his approach to NIL a few weeks back. Now, only one appears to be approaching the end of their rope.

What changed?

 

[mrschwump]

Calipari getting a Caddy, Stoops a wristwatch??

 

[cathouse]

Calipari getting a Caddy, Stoops a wristwatch??

Well, it has happened before, but this is more like that old country song......Cal got the goldmine, CMS got the shaft.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Herein lies the rub, UK is the only basketball first program in the SEC with the lone exception possibly being Vandy.
UK is going to pour NIL money into maintaining the basketball program while the football program will get the leftovers.
Its just the way it is.

 

[Chad Rock]

OK. I have been holding off on posting this for several days now because I know I am going to catch hel* from some posters for saying it out loud.

I have never seen Cal happier and I have never seen CMS more upset at what is taking place , specifically with recruiting and NIL at UK right now.

Turn back a couple of weeks. Cal was pi$$ed. Pi$$ed at Mitch and his stand on NIL. Cal couldn't sign a top player that was actually going to play at UK if his life depended on it.

Cal was leaving. Cal was retiring. Cal was angry. Cal is going to meet with Mitch and get some things ironed out on what HE needs to be able to recruit the top players again.

Suddenly, Wagner is back in the picture again. Dillingham decommits and is looking at Cal, Bratcher is interested in UK, Cal gets a couple of top commitments to UK again.

Cal is happy. Swaggy Cal is back. Happy Cal announces he is staying out his contract. Suddenly, all is well in Happy Cal's camp.

Meanwhile, CMS is as pi$$ed as I have ever witnessed him publicly. Can't compete with UT to sign a 3 star CB out of Bowling F-ing Green, KY.

He and Marrow go from a top 15 team back to a top 35 team in recruiting. Every school in the SEC not named Vandy is pouring NIL money into football........other than, guess who??? Mitch and UK.

And please don't give me that "Mitch will never.....". Seems like he was able to get enough booster help to get Cal over the recruiting hump and happy again.

Just unable to reach out and help the number 1 money making sport on campus and the coach that worked an entire decade to drag UK football kicking and screaming to the upper echelon of the SEC and build a real football program at UK for the first time in history.

And for CMS to have to go on a live broadcast and beg for support for our football program TWICE, makes me sick to my stomach.

CMS is at the point of offering his own salary for NIL, but of course THAT is against the rules.

Cal is happy. Cal is staying. Mitch is happy. Evidently the big money boosters are satisfied......

And our best football coach since Bear Bryant is about to blow a gasket.

I think I know who will and who will not stay out their contract at UK.

Unbelievable.

You should not catch hell for this post - instead, you should be showered with rose petals and white seedless grapes! Bravo, these are the exact thoughts I have. And yes, UN-effing-BELIEVABLE!

 

[JHB4UK]

I am not sure how NIL works (I fully admit this), but from my understanding UK/Mitch are not allowing Calipari & Stoops and other coaches to promise NIL money/deals to incoming recruits and that has been a pain.

No. Not how it is working anywhere.

No coach at any school right now is offering NIL to recruits. That's the whole point of COLLECTIVES; they are not coaches or school employees, so they are the ones to offer the deals. Coaches go to a kids HS and recruits him....few days later the collective comes by and tells him what he can get. Clean separation.

Problem (as I understand it) at UK is Barnhart has threatened people interest in setting up collectives with banning from UK athletics, taking lux boxes, excluding their companies from advertising during or at UK sports. Mitch thinks someone from the NCAA next yr will present him with a big ass trophy for making sure his school followed the rules AS INTENDED, if not actually spelled out.

 

[cathouse]

Herein lies the rub, UK is the only basketball first program in the SEC with the lone exception possibly being Vandy.
UK is going to pour NIL money into maintaining the basketball program while the football program will get the leftovers.
Its just the way it is.

Exactly.

If you are unwilling to acknowledge what just happened ......again.....

UK (maybe boosters???) has made the basketball program a priority over the football program.

What fools. SEC is a FOOTBALL FIRST conference and always will be, because football is what GENERATES revenue for EVERY OTHER SPORT at the university.

It appears Mitch is just going to ride the wave of dollars generated from TV revenues because of SEC football, and let the football program fall back to where we were.......cellar dwellers.

All is well in basketball land. That appears to be all that matters to many UK boosters and maybe Mitch, also.

Stoops will not stay and watch his life work be torn down on his watch, and I don't blame him one bit.

 

[cathouse]

No. Not how it is working anywhere.

No coach at any school right now is offering NIL to recruits. That's the whole point of COLLECTIVES; they are not coaches or school employees, so they are the ones to offer the deals. Coaches go to a kids HS and recruits him....few days later the collective comes by and tells him what he can get. Clean separation.

Problem (as I understand it) at UK is Barnhart has threatened people interest in setting up collectives with banning from UK athletics, taking lux boxes, excluding their companies from advertising during or at UK sports. Mitch thinks someone from the NCAA next yr will present him with a big ass trophy for making sure his school followed the rules AS INTENDED, if not actually spelled out.

Please tell me that you are not this naive.
Have you not listened to Jimbo, Saban, UT AD White, Kiffen, ??????

Please. How do you think UT published the fact that their QB got an $8M NIL deal. He hasn't even signed a LOI to play at UT, yet he KNOWS how much money he is going to get if he attends UT......

That is an NCAA violation, but NCAA cannot or will not even attempt to enforce that rule.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

I am not upset at Cal at all. Not sure where you got that from what I posted.....

I am THRILLED that we are back in the hunt for the TOP basketball players once again.

You will never admit it has been a while since Cal has been able to sign whomever he wants, but that's ok. You do you. Having a top 5 class because you sign 7 players ranked between 10-30 in a recruiting class vs. signing the #1, #, #4 recruit and having a top 5 class are two totally different top 5 classes.

I don't think Cal just suddenly got his mojo back without some outside help in recruiting. And I agree, Chin and Coach O HAVE to be an improvement on what we had for recruiters, but they were pretty much stymied also (see Duke's class and how EARLY they committed).

Anyhow. I knew the basketball first folks wouldn't agree with my observation, but that is my perspective on the current state of UK athletisc based on the frustration level of CMS over the "all is well" attitude Cal is giving off.

Both were upset at Mitch and his approach to NIL a few weeks back. Now, only one appears to be approaching the end of their rope.

What changed?

Again, we haven't really signed anyone other than Dillingham so perhaps by the end of the month after the Peach this might be more relevant. The reason the recruiting dipped is because we did not have the assistant coaches that we needed, but my point was the overall classes were still strong. I am not sure how many 7 player classes were signed from 2016-2022 either. No one is debating is was better the first half of the tenure and shockingly (NOT), UK had more success in that timeframe as it really is about the Jimmys and the Joes to win consistently, same as in football, to your point on this thread. Last year's class with Chin & O was also very good, but the whole Sharpe reclass fiasco happened so it is not like there are not already signs recruiting was on the uptick before this off-season. We still have not signed many players so I am cautiously optimistic but Cal still has to coach and win the games and that is his biggest issue of late.

In reading your other responses in this thread, it seems like the issue may be that our rich booster fans are basketball first (and I am neither 1. Rich 2. A booster 3. basketball first but rather UK first) and that is not your fault or my fault. We cannot control that unfortunately as rich people get to do whatever they want with their money. It also seems like UK is poorer than our SEC competition and hell, even Saban is complaining about it and he is at Alabama...this NIL thing is way out of control already and only going to get worse.

 

[K_TIME]

Please tell me that you are not this naive.
Have you not listened to Jimbo, Saban, UT AD White, Kiffen, ??????

Please. How do you think UT published the fact that their QB got an $8M NIL deal. He hasn't even signed a LOI to play at UT, yet he KNOWS how much money he is going to get if he attends UT......

That is an NCAA violation, but NCAA cannot or will not even attempt to enforce that rule.

I think the point JHB4UK is getting at....no school is probably directly offering the $$$...but they are in like a partnership with their associated collective. And they send them right behind the coaches visit to the NIL collective to get the price for the kids.

So while Bama, UT, Texas Am aren't directly paying HS recruits....their associated is right there with them which UK needs to catch up to that way of recruiting

 

[JHB4UK]

No Knoxville employee published anything. Learn the facts. People with the Knoxville collective gave an interview to The Athletic and provided copies of the $8M contract they were offering the Cali QB.

Same as is going on all over CFB by those taking advantage of NIL. Coaches recruit, by the rules, then the collectives make the money promises.

Except at UK. Only head coach in the nation who feels the situation is so desperate and program-ending he has had to beg - twice - in the media for help. He is in such an awful position from his AD that he has to offer his own salary to try and keep what he has built here competitive.

This is your cue, paste your Barnhart defense paragraphs now.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

UK is not basketball first. I don't know how many times I have to read this same false info. That's how it used to be, but not anymore.

In terms of nil, basketball is more historically relevant so the players have a much easier time getting national/regional nil deals. Plus in basketball, kids just need to be concerned of one year of nil. If the money was the key factor, they could just go overseas or g league.

Football is the current fanbase favorite. Tickets and attendance prove that. However theyre not of national prominence so they need much more creative nil approaches. Unfortunately top button Mitch is the furthest thing from creative.

Imo Levis will really get some nice deals this year because he's extremely charismatic and already has a large social media following. So that might help some...but we still won't be on equal footing with the more aggressive schools especially two rivals UT and UL.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Well, it has happened before, but this is more like that old country song......Cal got the goldmine, CMS got the shaft.

No. It never happened before. The Bear said it didn't but the truth is not as much fun as the fiction.

 

[Catluv]

Mitch doesn’t like to cater to the boosters. When we got on probation didn’t we run off boosters while other folks just turn the other cheek. I think Chin and O and Turner are excellent recruiters. CMS has lost some great recruiters. But by CMS saying he would give up some money to get players something needs to be done. If these teams can get their hands a little dirty with no consequences then I am all for pushing the envelope!!

 

[Blueaz]

No. Not how it is working anywhere.

No coach at any school right now is offering NIL to recruits. That's the whole point of COLLECTIVES; they are not coaches or school employees, so they are the ones to offer the deals. Coaches go to a kids HS and recruits him....few days later the collective comes by and tells him what he can get. Clean separation.

Problem (as I understand it) at UK is Barnhart has threatened people interest in setting up collectives with banning from UK athletics, taking lux boxes, excluding their companies from advertising during or at UK sports. Mitch thinks someone from the NCAA next yr will present him with a big ass trophy for making sure his school followed the rules AS INTENDED, if not actually spelled out.

wrong... they are doing that first...they are telling kids they will get deals and how much can be made "possibly"... so then it is not a promise

MB gave orders that no coach says anything about NIL to recruits... I think that really pissed of CMS. He understands why, but everyone else (and using grey language)...
That's pretty much what he has stated. or at least that is my interpretation

 

[cathouse]

No. It never happened before. The Bear said it didn't but the truth is not as much fun as the fiction.

This is not about Bear and Rupp. This is about Cal and CMS and NIL and UK football today.

I do know for a fact what UK football has been like in the 65 years following Bear's departure from UK, for whatever the reason he left.

Don't want to lose CMS for something that could be fixed if someone had the balls to make it happen.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

UK is not basketball first. I don't know how many times I have to read this same false info. That's how it used to be, but not anymore.

In terms of nil, basketball is more historically relevant so the players have a much easier time getting national/regional nil deals. Plus in basketball, kids just need to be concerned of one year of nil. If the money was the key factor, they could just go overseas or g league.

Football is the current fanbase favorite. Tickets and attendance prove that. However theyre not of national prominence so they need much more creative nil approaches. Unfortunately top button Mitch is the furthest thing from creative.

Imo Levis will really get some nice deals this year because he's extremely charismatic and already has a large social media following. So that might help some...but we still won't be on equal footing with the more aggressive schools especially two rivals UT and UL.

I can see Levis getting a banana deal and a mayo deal for sure. LOL

 

[Johnfarrel]

This is not about Bear and Rupp. This is about Cal and CMS and NIL and UK football today.

I do know for a fact what UK football has been like in the 65 years following Bear's departure from UK, for whatever the reason he left.

Don't want to lose CMS for something that could be fixed if someone had the balls to make it happen.

l know it's about Cal and CMS, but the analogy does not work because it is based on a false premise. If it turns out the way you suggest, and it well might, it will be the first time it has happened. The Bear left Kentucky because of Happy Chandler put restrictions on football recruiting outside of Kentucky, so in effect it was the governor, not the AD, that caused the Bear to leave. If MB causes CMS to leave because of NIL, that will be the first time an AD at Kentucky has caused a football coach to leave because of a situation like this.

 

[cathouse]

l know it's about Cal and CMS, but the analogy does not work because it is based on a false premise. If it turns out the way you suggest, and it well might, it will be the first time it has happened. The Bear left Kentucky because of Happy Chandler put restrictions on football recruiting outside of Kentucky, so in effect it was the governor, not the AD, that caused the Bear to leave. If MB causes CMS to leave because of NIL, that will be the first time an AD at Kentucky has caused a football coach to leave because of a situation like this.

Yes, John. Because UK AD's have ALWAYS put UK football interests first. Everyone knows that.

Cliff Hagan and CM Newton said hello.

 

[FtWorthCat]

If Texas Tech can come up with a deal like this, surely UK could do something substantial.

Texas Tech football NIL deal, explained: 100 players to receive $25K each from Matador Club | Sporting News

The Red Raiders announced a massive collective NIL deal for its entire football team. The Sporting News looks into the deal, including how it fits into NCAA regulations, Texas state law and more:

www.sportingnews.com

 

[maysvilleky]

This is exactly what Kentucky collectives should be doing. But it sounds like MB is preventing it by threatening to take away privileges for those who participate?

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I can see Levis getting a banana deal and a mayo deal for sure. LOL

He'll probably get more too. His massive social media following makes him a shoe in for a nice nil year. Hopefully it's enough to show recruits what's possible here even if we aren't allowed to promise it up front.

 

[The-Hack]

The Bear left Kentucky because of Happy Chandler put restrictions on football recruiting outside of Kentucky, so in effect it was the governor, not the AD, that caused the Bear to leave.

Happy was elected Governor in 1935-39, and 1955-59, hence was not in office when Bear left.

There was a legislative vote to restrict recruiting in 1956, 57, or 58, during Happy’s second non-consecutive term, but Bear left after the 53’ season.

Happy may have had something else to do with Bear leaving, as one of the persistent rumors was that Bear bedded a Chandler girl, but those rumors were all over the place regarding Bear Bryant.

The most compelling account I have ever read of his decision was that he had been promised Rupp would be fired after the point shaving scandal. Rupp was retained close in time to Bear’s loss of America’s Golden Boy, Paul Hourning, to Notre Dame.

Bryant and Rupp made amends, of sorts in the 60’s, appearing on one-another’s televised coaching shows, etc. But make no mistake: they distrusted one another, each having huge National profiles, but unable to avoid one another in a community hardly larger than current day, Richmond, Kentucky.

A close friend and huge UK football fan, who recently passed away, finished his hitch in the Army in 1963. He was speaking in ‘63 to a prominent pharmacist in downtown, after his return to Lexington, and the pharmacist bluntly told him that he (the pharmacist) and a number of other prominent gents laid the law down to Bear that his presence was no longer welcome, as he was screwing their wives.

I suspect it was a combination of all of these factors that led Bryant to College Station.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Happy was elected Governor in 1935-39, and 1955-59, hence was not in office when Bear left.

There was a legislative vote to restrict recruiting in 1956, 57, or 58, during Happy’s second non-consecutive term, but Bear left after the 53’ season.

Happy may have had something else to do with Bear leaving, as one of the persistent rumors was that Bear bedded a Chandler girl, but those rumors were all over the place regarding Bear Bryant.

The most compelling account I have ever read of his decision was that he had been promised Rupp would be fired after the point shaving scandal. Rupp was retained close in time to Bear’s loss of America’s Golden Boy, Paul Hourning, to Notre Dame.

Bryant and Rupp made amends, of sorts in the 60’s, appearing on one-another’s televised coaching shows, etc. But make no mistake: they distrusted one another, each having huge National profiles, but unable to avoid one another in a community hardly larger than current day, Richmond, Kentucky.

A close friend and huge UK football fan, who recently passed away, finished his hitch in the Army in 1963. He was speaking in ‘63 to a prominent pharmacist in downtown, after his return to Lexington, and the pharmacist bluntly told him that he (the pharmacist) and a number of other prominent gents laid the law down to Bear that his presence was no longer welcome, as he was screwing their wives.

I suspect it was a combination of all of these factors that led Bryant to College Station.

Thanks for all the info on the Bear. He probably needed the watch to keep track of all his appointments with the ladies. The watch story has whiskers, but according to the Bear, it was a funny story not a true story.

 

[dvillecatfan]

perhaps every year, do not have time to check).

What's a pound to an elephant, considering how long the post the above quote was in.

 

[jauk11]

No Knoxville employee published anything. Learn the facts. People with the Knoxville collective gave an interview to The Athletic and provided copies of the $8M contract they were offering the Cali QB.

Same as is going on all over CFB by those taking advantage of NIL. Coaches recruit, by the rules, then the collectives make the money promises.

Except at UK. Only head coach in the nation who feels the situation is so desperate and program-ending he has had to beg - twice - in the media for help. He is in such an awful position from his AD that he has to offer his own salary to try and keep what he has built here competitive.

This is your cue, paste your Barnhart defense paragraphs now.

Pretty obvious I don't have any mitch defense paragraphs, LOL. Not after he starved football to death for his first ten years.

 

[cathouse]

Happy was elected Governor in 1935-39, and 1955-59, hence was not in office when Bear left.

There was a legislative vote to restrict recruiting in 1956, 57, or 58, during Happy’s second non-consecutive term, but Bear left after the 53’ season.

Happy may have had something else to do with Bear leaving, as one of the persistent rumors was that Bear bedded a Chandler girl, but those rumors were all over the place regarding Bear Bryant.

The most compelling account I have ever read of his decision was that he had been promised Rupp would be fired after the point shaving scandal. Rupp was retained close in time to Bear’s loss of America’s Golden Boy, Paul Hourning, to Notre Dame.

Bryant and Rupp made amends, of sorts in the 60’s, appearing on one-another’s televised coaching shows, etc. But make no mistake: they distrusted one another, each having huge National profiles, but unable to avoid one another in a community hardly larger than current day, Richmond, Kentucky.

A close friend and huge UK football fan, who recently passed away, finished his hitch in the Army in 1963. He was speaking in ‘63 to a prominent pharmacist in downtown, after his return to Lexington, and the pharmacist bluntly told him that he (the pharmacist) and a number of other prominent gents laid the law down to Bear that his presence was no longer welcome, as he was screwing their wives.

I suspect it was a combination of all of these factors that led Bryant to College Station.

Wouldn't the right thing for that pharmacist to do if he were a real UK FB fan, shouldn't he and the other men just run their slutty wives off and keep The Bear??

We could have been Alabama. All over some worn out snatch we have been mostly miserable in FB for 60 years.

A pharmacist would not have ANY problem finding another gold digging hot young wife in KY, but there is only one "Bear".

Feels like we all got screwed. Even the pharmacist and his friends.

 

[SaltyCat22]

So now when non-UK football fans follow up with a question about Bear Bryant, I can say he left because he was banging some pharmacists’ wives? A lot cooler than the watch/car story!

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

I assume Bama boosters had no issues with turning a blind eye when the Bear was on the prowl.

 

[cathouse]

I assume Bama boosters had no issues with turning a blind eye when the Bear was on the prowl.

Bama fans counted it an honor if the Bear chose them.........there are a lot of grown men named Bear in Bama today.

Just saying. Bama fans have their priorities.

 

[*CatinIL*]

Swaggy Cal...can that be Pemra-banned? Swaggy Cal doesn't lose to...who the hell were they? in the NCAAT the season after a 9 win season the season before.

Let me state again, Perma-ban the term Swaggy Cal until "Swaggy Cal" shows up again.

 

[cathouse]

Swaggy Cal...can that be Pemra-banned? Swaggy Cal doesn't lose to...who the hell were they? in the NCAAT the season after a 9 win season the season before.

Let me state again, Perma-ban the term Swaggy Cal until "Swaggy Cal" shows up again.

Someone needs to tell "Swaggy Cal" that.

I totally agree. He won 2 games in the Bahamas against high school level talent, and boom, just like magic, Swaggy Cal gets in an interview and goes nuclear on the whole athletic department because he "thinks" he has enough talent on this team to overcome his mediocre coaching.

No one, other than a few of the "Cal only fans" actually like to see or hear that out of Cal.

Cal is dispised by every other fanbase and probably more than half the UK fanbase.

That Swaggy Cal routine turns most people off real quick.

 

[The-Hack]

Wouldn't the right thing for that pharmacist to do if he were a real UK FB fan, shouldn't he and the other men just run their slutty wives off and keep The Bear??

I think anyone whose wife screwed Bear should have moved to College Station, Texas..

As to your detailed and colorful description of the people and events, let me remind you that you knew nether the Bear, the pharmacist, nor the snatch!!

 

[jauk11]

Swaggy Cal...can that be Pemra-banned? Swaggy Cal doesn't lose to...who the hell were they? in the NCAAT the season after a 9 win season the season before.

Let me state again, Perma-ban the term Swaggy Cal until "Swaggy Cal" shows up again.

I'm not sure he isn't already back. Pay attention, I think he is final four at least this year. Next year too..

 

[cathouse]

I think anyone whose wife screwed Bear should have moved to College Station, Texas..

As to your detailed and colorful description of the people and events, let me remind you that you knew nether the Bear, the pharmacist, nor the snatch!!

How do you know my name isn't Little Bear??
Lol.

 

[The-Hack]

How do you know my name isn't Little Bear??
Lol.

You would have that as your handle, here, if so!’

 

[*CatinIL*]

I'm not sure he isn't already back. Pay attention, I think he is final four at least this year. Next year too..

Why don't we wait and see first. ..