I hope everyone reading this knows the guy who posted this also said Ohio St. and Michigan reached out to Cal. Which was never mentioned by the people with real sources. He’s full of 💩 just hoping something will stick
Cal and Mitch meeting tomorrow
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“May I see your receipt sir”?
Meet Joe. Joe “has been told” about the meeting.
I’m more of a fan of the stick in this case than the carrot. Renegotiate the contract and bring back your core group. Otherwise there’s no incentive to keep him only more decline and still owe him 26-27 million
Cal may have the leverage in the contract but Mitch has the leverage in Cal's quality of life.
There are many things Mitch can do as AD that gives a clear no vote of confidence to Cal, and will put Cal in a no win situation. It will come at the expense of the program but if you aren't winning the SEC, if you aren't winning the SECT and you are likely to get bounced in an early round of the NCAA tourney, then what difference does it make?
There are many things Mitch can do as AD that gives a clear no vote of confidence to Cal, and will put Cal in a no win situation. It will come at the expense of the program but if you aren't winning the SEC, if you aren't winning the SECT and you are likely to get bounced in an early round of the NCAA tourney, then what difference does it make?
He's FOS Ohio St. hired a coach less than a week ago.
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OFFICIAL: Ohio State Hires Jake Diebler As Head Coach
The Ohio State Buckeyes have removed the interim tag from Jake Diebler and hired him as the full-time head coach.
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Im not a fan of my idea on the surface .. I only offer it as a last resort thing, because I don't think there's any leverage on our end for a renegotiation. And, I do think it can work. We need to find a way to make Cal have the chance to actually LOSE something. Right now, there's nothing. He could go winless, and it wouldn't matter.
I also think a lot of his mistakes are self inflicted, some of them on purpose and others just having the wrong priorities. I think hes becoming bad on purpose. But maybe money could change that.
I realize we're disappointed and angry but no need to bash Joe.
By the way, Joe is Billy Joe Wildcat.
By the way, Joe is Billy Joe Wildcat.
Not only no but hell no. Cal cannot stay. Period.
But I feel like no one wins here. And that's assuming Mitch isn't more or less "in bed" with Cal, which I think he might be.
Which means my idea won't happen.. but still. I'd rather give Cal the chance to make more money if he does what the fans want. And if he comes up short, then we get to at least "win" knowing he lost $1,000,000 for his shitty coaching.
Mitch isn't going to make life miserable for Cal, even if it would be fun to see. And if he did go down this route, than this just gets ugly. Ugly in a way that's probably not going to look good for us fans either.
No one meets on Sundays, Mitch is going to pray over Cal.
They don’t just give those Staff lanyards out you know.
Meet Joe. Joe “has been told” about the meeting.
Show some danged respect.
I feel like you're the 5th person I had to tell this to tonight:
We don't have that choice. You guys get that right? We're stuck. We have to think of realistic options. I'd love to go break his kneecaps, but we can't do that. So let's move onto the things we can do.
If he stays how bout doing a $1 mill deduct if no SEC champ and a $2 mill deduct if no F4 from from his present salary? I like this incentive better than add to win.
Yeah the only leverage is if cal absolutely wants to be in Lexington. Barney has put us in a position with cal holding all the cards. That’s why Id give the ultimatum or move on. There’s just no time to know if cal can retain even one player from this roster. You know how it goes. We have no idea what’s happening until June with returners. Reed could come out with cal in a presser though and say he’s staying that’s possible. That’s been talked about a lot this weekend at the sweet sixteen.
My sources tell me Calipari will step down or be fired at some point. Could be this year or in ten years but it will happen.
And this is a good source. He knows more than Barnhart does
And this is a good source. He knows more than Barnhart does
I have yet to see a situation where throwing money at people causing problems ever works. And you don’t reward bad behavior or you end up setting a bad precedent for newer ADs and coaches to follow.
Or. Hear me out….
He’s made a 100 million since his last title.
How about he pay the university back 10 mil every year he doesn’t win a title
I mean, that is true.. we don't know what the players are going to do. I have to imagine we are losing at least 5-6 for NBA/transfers/graduation. Maybe more. But, we still don't know who has issues with Cal and who doesn't. While we all wanted Reed to start, it sure seems he was fine not starting, and his apprehensive play all season backed that up.
What sort of ultimatum can we even give Cal though? We clearly can't do the buyout. Cal would have to agree to take less, and he's just not likely to do that.
Well it could be an under the table deal.. and honestly, that's probably how it would be done. A verbal agreement.
Redgardless, my counter is: What's 1 million more, of money that isn't ours anyways? Again, I go back to this: I'd rather have Cal make 10% more if it means WE get a Final 4.. than if Cal makes his full salary and we get nothing. And on the reverse end of it, I'd love to know that when the final buzzer sounds on another opening weekend exit, Cal just lost $1,000,000, and is feeling worse than probably anyone.
Why are you certain we can’t do the buyout? I’m not implying we will or won’t. But i certainly think it’s a possibility if certain people definitely want him gone.
If this is true and it’s hard not to think it isn’t, there will be some discussion and Mitch comes out with a somewhat apologetic approach saying that we need to steer the program in a different direction, things haven’t gone as was planned… etc… etc…
Next season becomes a wash, rinse, repeat. Can’t believe anything changes until Cal checks his ego and understand that his philosophy isn’t this programs answer… and that ain’t gonna happen. Anyone wanna bet or give me an over or under?
You're thinking like me.. but the problem is, we can't take what isn't ours. We can only offer more for results.
Totally disagree with this. If UK fires Calipari, he is required under the contract to act in good faith to mitigate UK's obligation to pay the liquidated damages. If he is notified by UK's legal staff of open and available Division I coaching positions and declines to apply, he defaults and UK quits paying.
I'm not. Maybe it can happen, That's what I'm hoping for. But, it seems unlikely. That's a lot of money, and from everything we are hearing, it's just unlikely to happen unless Cal feels like giving up a lot on his end.
Or how about this.. my other idea is that we do the buyout and hire a coach from the best midmajor this year for $2mil. Have him steal all his players and coach some of our holdovers. If he sucks, we fire him in 2 years and go for the big hire. The money kind of washes out at that point, and maybe we get a coach for the future.
Stupid question but this is getting exhausting. Do we even know for sure his job is in jeopardy at this point? Are there any for sure 100% accurate sources at this time that meetings or decisions are coming? I’m just not seeing or hearing any concrete evidence right now.
I think he’s gone. But i wouldn’t lay money on it. My main gripe is I think Mitch should be gone too.
This is the same dude that tweeted out that Ohio St has been in contact with Cal when they hired a FREAKIN coach 6 days ago!!!
Meet Joe. Joe “has been told” about the meeting.
Why would anyone trust what he says????!!!
As someone going through legal jargon on a few land deals... there is just WAY too much grey area in that. Not that the two are the same things.. but I can already tell Cal's side will argue that these weren't good jobs, they didn't meet criteria, he inquired but it wasn't mutual, yadda yadda yadda. I like the theory, but don't think it will mean anything in practice. We'd never prove that Cal just declined offers, and his legal team will know all the loop holes.
I could be wrong though.
