I agree totally. Kansas fan can EABOD. All's fair in love and war, and in this war UK is all alone, and anybody else who runs afoul of the NCAA can just suck it.
How many think cal saw this coming and backed off diallo? I know at one point we were the favorite for him. I think after the kanter fiasco cal didn't want another situation like this. I'm sure the same can be said for Alexander and selby.
If this kid knew there were going to be road blocks on his eligibility, he should 've went straight to the draft and not even messed with school...That being said, Self is just like all of the other coaches who take shots at John Calipari every chance they get . So the Hell with Self and Kansas......GO CATS!!!!!!!!!
Self had one player CAUGHT (unlike Rose) in academic fraud and another taking money from an NBA agent and little was done. Consider that next time someone whines about how Cal is evil because two FF's were vacated
Then you have Alexander and McLemore. Nothing
I don't care one way or the other about Diallo. It's classless to hope he doesn't play, but Self really shouldn't be complaining about the NCAA
Then you have Alexander and McLemore. Nothing
I don't care one way or the other about Diallo. It's classless to hope he doesn't play, but Self really shouldn't be complaining about the NCAA
I don't really want to see the kid sit but if you read through the rant from Self, it's just some vague rambling rant with no real substance to it. There is more that he is carefully not saying than what he's saying.
And GMAFB at the idea Self is doing this for altruistic reasons, as has been said above, the heat is on and KU needs Diallo to avoid another early NCAA tournament exit and disappointing year.
What the NCAA needs to be in this instance is consistent, period. I don't know what criteria they've applied, but some of the kids from OSNA have been ruled eligible and some have not.
And GMAFB at the idea Self is doing this for altruistic reasons, as has been said above, the heat is on and KU needs Diallo to avoid another early NCAA tournament exit and disappointing year.
What the NCAA needs to be in this instance is consistent, period. I don't know what criteria they've applied, but some of the kids from OSNA have been ruled eligible and some have not.
Couldn't care less about KU. It's the kid that is getting shafted.
And, IMO, I hope more coaches jump in and blast the NCAA. Not just for this situation but for all the other inaccuracies.
Just wondering why you feel Self shouldn't fire back at the NCAA? This is typical of the NCAA, the season has started yet they're stringing this kid along. The NCAA deserves to get blasted. They're a sham of an organization.
I think Kanter would've been eligible at Duke or UNCheat. He could've paid restitution and been declared eligible, had it not been a vendetta against Coach Cal...IMO.
Who says Diallo knew the NCAA would do this? Jesus man they're looking at his sixth grade schoolwork. How was Diallo supposed to know they were going to do that?
Besides, be can't go pro right now.
^^THIS
....only I think Self is more concerned about keeping the BIG 12 streak alive than that silly NCAA tourney. To hear KU fans talk that is all that matters
I would say that was true early. I suspect we did not make him a priority initially because of those issues whereas he was Kansas No. 1 option from Day 1. Zimmerman was our guy. Diallo was Plan B or C.
After we missed out on some guys that I think Cal expected to get in the Spring, Cal went all in on Diallo. Even as that effort was on-going however, back in June or whenever, there were insiders on the premium board saying the kid was a longshot to qualify.
Just glad it's KU's fight and not ours, and we got Humphries instead.
It's funny because skal was looked at as the troubled recruit from his handler to his high school, while diallo is extremely intelligent and has all these problems trying to be cleared
From what I read of the article it sounds like he isn't eligible. You either have the classes and attendance or you don't. If I tried to get into Kansas as a normal student and didn't have the high school curriculum required, I would not be admitted.
I bet there's more to this than the NCAA dragging their feet and going back to 6th grade...something fishy here.
1. A loss will do that to a coach.
2. Self can play the kid if he's that upset about. Just may have to forfeit games. If he's that sure he'll be declared elegible then he could take the gamble.
2. Self can play the kid if he's that upset about. Just may have to forfeit games. If he's that sure he'll be declared elegible then he could take the gamble.
Probably the ones that actually attended class. Kansas mentioned that Diallo had attended 85% of his classes. Something has to be fishy with that aspect.
To the poster above that mentioned that Enes was never going to play college ball. Explain what Emmert meant he said, basically, "we foresee no problem with Enes Kanter playing basketball for the University of Washington". Of course, at that time Emmert was employed by Washington and Enes hadn't came to his senses and committed to UK. What changed about his background?
I thought I had read somewhere that there was an issue with Diallo's - handler? guardian? Not sure what you would call him. Anyway - more of an issue there, as a possible agent, than his schoolwork?
If I'm wrong - my apologies
If I'm wrong - my apologies
I'm glad he did fire back at the NCAA,I just don't separate Self and KU..It is bad for the kid that he seems to be caught in the crossfire but like a few others have said there may be more issues(guardian/handler etc.It seems the NCAA is great at foot dragging but taking action to sanction obvious violations at KU or UNC or Duke is a whole other matter.
The other kids have classes from other schools that the NCAA is accepting.Dialo doesn't that's why they're looking back at his 6th grade classes, likely looking for an english class or something to accept sonce they are not accepting OSNA classes.
I remember the recruitment. Kansas snuck in late and snagged him. He was perceived 90% of time to be going to St Johns or Kentucky and Kansas came in and swooped him up. You GETTING WHAT you deserve Self. Enjoy the process bro! lmfao
self is full of crap. he knew damn well diallo would have issues getting eligible. as did all coaches who recruited him. and all the clown ku fans running to every corner of the internet defending diallo need to wake up. there is plenty a reason why this taken the route it has.
You're giving the NCAA way too much credit. They are the epitome of corruptness and their stupidity defies credulity. When it comes to Duke/UNC...oh well, even a**holes have their favorites!
That KU fan on twitter tried to warn his buddies but they didn't listen. Said he knows a guy with connections to Cal and said he was 2 years behind.
Diallo should play this year.
And Kansas should forfeit every win Alexander was involved in last season.
I'd call that "being fair." Does Self really want fairness?
And Kansas should forfeit every win Alexander was involved in last season.
I'd call that "being fair." Does Self really want fairness?
Diallo should play. That noted, Self understands how vitally important it is for Kansas to get this kid on the court. Their recruiting is in complete disarray and this year has taken on the height of "title or bust" before the long winter of failed recruiting efforts fully cements in place. Kansas will lose Ellis after this season, and possibly Selden as well. Greene is a wildcard and might not remain with the program. Mason, while not an NBA talent, might make the jump and try his options in the foreign market.
Even with Mason, how would this roster fair next season?
C - Bolden
F - Bragg
F - Svi
G - Graham
G - Mason
With virtually no depth beyond Greene and Vick.
Hence the major reason Self is flipping out about Diallo. If Diallo can't play, Kansas is basically looking at a minimum of two years before they truly contend for a title, and if Self doesn't load up in the class of '17 (unlikely, given how UK and Duke have positioned themselves), it could be an extended period of time before he ever sniffs a Final Four again.
I get it. But NO Kansas fan started the TWO current threads on Rupp about Diallo. This isn't Jayhawks stirring up Rupp. And for Skal, I saw ZERO Kansas fans that were rooting against him. It doesn't become truth when you write a post about it.
I do think the NCAA has overreached on Diallo and others. But, again, read up. This is in the news today. All of your questions can be answered with a little research. I am not tutoring today.
I'm presuming you want 'fair and equitable", correct?
Well, I agree that Diallo should play then, and Alexander's status last year should cost you some wins based on the criteria the NCAA set with Rose in 2008 - the same criteria many of your fellow fans have illogically used to dismiss John Calipari as a cheater.
Your fan base can't have it both ways. Either you want the enforcement of previously held criteria, or Jayhawk Nation is simply another example of a hypocritical analysis hell bent on tribalism and selective ethics.
The only other option is to admit that the NCAA's system is a failed one altogether, and for Jayhawk fans to publically promote the reality that the NCAA wrongly distorted Calipari's reputation. If your fans aren't willing to do that, you have nothing but a baseless desire for a double-standard that would ultimately render your fan base (generally speaking) as one that lacks both integrity and analytical honesty.
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Fair question. Every fan base has fringe. I am sure there were some Kansas fans wishing the worst. You would probably agree that there are some Kentucky fans wishing the worst. We may not root for each other's schools, but I think the majority of UK fans wants the best for Diallo. And, I would say the majority of Jayhawks fans wanted the best for Skal.
You're not tutoring because you don't know. You just hoped on the outrage train without any facts. You're outraged and don't even know why, I guess it is the year of the outrage.
1. Do you think the majority of your fans look at Calipari as a cheater?
2. Do you think that the majority of your fans feel Skal would be cleared?
3. Do you think the majority of your fans (who actually paid attention to the process) thought there was a somewhat shady connection between the smoke involved with Skal and Calipari's reputation?
Sounds like Self really flipped his wig.
All that matters is what you did before college. Once you get there, do whatever TF you want with impunity. Like UNC***, uavel and dook. If I were Georgia or Syracuse, I would be pretty pissed.
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The only reason each fanbase wanted the best for each kid was we both had a star recruit being investigated for eligibility. Each fanbase would have looked hypocritical wanting one recruit to get cleared and not the other. In a sense, each fanbase (at the time) needed one of them to get cleared to justify clearance for the other. Once Skal became eligible, most of UK fanbase didn't or don't care if Diallo gains clearance or not. However, Kansas fans still has the "But Skal got cleared" narrative to use.
First of all, like I said there are fringes of both fan bases that want and think the worst of each other.
I think a lot of Jayhawks fans remember Cal from Memphis and Mass. I would think the majority of fans would believe like I do, that you don't have to cheat when you are at Kentucky. But I think the worst that would be said by some would say he cuts corners before he got to Kentucky.
About Skal, I think the average Kansas fan didn't know much about him. Like you said 'actually paid attention to the process'. But the ones that do understand recruiting would say that there wasn't much 'smoke' around Cal's recruiting of Skal. He was in early. Spending time raising money for Haiti with Hoops for Haiti. Skal picking UK over Memphis didn't raise many eye brows.
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