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Big UK Fan But In Spite Of Our Record I’m Not Convinced We Are Top 10 Team, Maybe Not Top 20.

I can see my post has resulted in a lot of thought provoking very well thought out responses which is what I had hoped. Like I said I am a huge UK fan as graduated from there , met my wife there and we’re within 8 days of celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary. Thanks 🙏 for all of the great responses.
You're absolutely not wrong but you will get no traction whatsoever with reasonable takes on a site filled with so much sunk cost fallacy.
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.

Good God.
 
You're absolutely not wrong but you will get no traction whatsoever with reasonable takes on a site filled with so much sunk cost fallacy.

This dude has a Calipari shrine with a very rare replica of Cal's nut-sack, which he sleeps with every night. Has it dangling from his ceiling just low enough to drag across his face for 8-12 hour sessions.
 
This team is kicking the crap out of teams that would come into Rupp and give Cal coached teams all we could handle. How in the world could ANY UK fan that has sat through those games have ANY inkling of remorse for where this team is right now???!!!!!

I am MORE than ELATED with EVERYTHING Coach Mark Pope is doing to bring back UK Basketball dominance!!! Because it is coming!!! And WAAAAYYY faster than many of us thought it could!!!!
 
This team is kicking the crap out of teams that would come into Rupp and give Cal coached teams all we could handle. How in the world could ANY UK fan that has sat through those games have ANY inkling of remorse for where this team is right now???!!!!!

I am MORE than ELATED with EVERYTHING Coach Mark Pope is doing to bring back UK Basketball dominance!!! Because it is coming!!! And WAAAAYYY faster than many of us thought it could!!!!

Duke is about to get a ranked road win by double digits. This thread gets dumber by the minute.
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been red, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
So let me see, your argument is A. If things had been different in the Duke game we would have lost by 15 or 20 points and based on the fact we WON our only meeting, Duke would win 8 of 10 if we played more. What utter DRIVEL.
The Duke game was played and won by usno, ifs,buts, candy and nuts.
B. Since we won all our games shooting threes by high scores we will not be able to compete in coming rock fights. This is based on what: we haven't been in a rock fight yet. How do you know how we will play in one. Did it ever occur to you we might have a team that can actually dictate the pace and intensity of play, unlike the majority of Cals team. We have 6 seniors on our team. Why wouldn't they not be able to compete in a physical rock fight, unlike the infants Cal repeatedly in suck games.
Your whole primise is shabby and not based on what we have seen.
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
Let's face it, early polls and early season suppositions are not great indicators of two main things, how really good a team is compared to the rest of college basketball and where we will ultimately finish at season's end. From my knowledge and perspective, with a pinch of bias and guesswork, I do think we are a very difficult team to guard that runs a pretty efficient offense. We can score from all three levels. We do need to improve some as a team on both ends, especially defensively.

Fundamentally, we show a lot of acumen as you would expect from our fifth-year seniors. We have rugged guards, all can pass effectively, can catch well, and can absorb hits in traffic and finish. We are versatile and can defend down low. We play decent defense that is made tougher by the fact we are so damn good offensively -- it is tougher to shoot and score when you know Kentucky is so good offensively per possession. That alone ratchets up the pressure to score from anywhere, especially long range. Many teams we play -- maybe all -- will struggle with our experienced players.

My best guess at this point is a wild one, but based on the fact that I think we're better than our last six or seven teams, and maybe better than the Fox/Monk team. I love what this group can do in many phases of the game, and we'll only get better. When we play Arkansas on Feb 1, I think we'll be 18-2, and I predict we will be at them if we have the team then that we have now (injuries). That ought to be good enough for a top ten team at that point, and we'll know by then that there is a great chance to be in the Final Four. Right now, if you asked do we have to pieces to go that far, I would say unequivocally yes. From there, who knows. From what I saw tonight out of a sputtering, lumbering Arizona, they're not even close to us. I could go in great detail as to why I think we're really good, but you get the point. As a fan, this is the very best ride we've had in a long time.
 
I'm not sure whether to take this post seriously or not. My first answer is to just enjoy this team and this season, take it as it comes. Be glad we've got a coach who thinks winning is what it's all about and he's not gonna let his players be satisfied with anything less.

I would also use tonight's Arizona and Duke game to make a couple arguments. Duke was our biggest win and it's still their only loss. Arizona was playing at home and coming off a tough loss in a true road game at Wisconsin. They entered the game averaging 93ppg as a team, but Duke held them to 55. This was Duke's first true road game and we all know they have freshmen as significant players. But they controlled that game vs Arizona most of the way and ended up winning by 15. I say all of that to say- Kentucky's win over Duke is much more impressive than we knew even then. This Duke team is very good, maybe even a title contender.

Having said this, I'm done attempting to convince Henny Penny that the sky isn't falling. Just watch and enjoy these games. I think this group is gonna be IN every game and have a chance to win. We will probably lose some along the way, but this team is a legit top 10 team without a doubt in my mind.
 
5 games into Coach Pope's first year. I can't fathom this. UK is undefeated. Leading the SEC in scoring and many other categories. Passing the ball like the Harlem Globetrotters. Averaging close to a 100 points a game. Offense is smooth as honey.

Not sure if this sarcasm or something worse.
On the off chance this isn’t a straight troll job, I think I see what’s happening here. This is a person with an oft broken heart who is afraid of munching on Nick Saban’s rat poison for fear of rekindled heartbreak.
 
Who knows if this team is actually the #9 best team in the country right now? More importantly, who cares? There are plenty of tests coming that will determine that. Polls are totally meaningless in November anyway UNLESS you aren't beating at least some of the better teams you face. That has been our problem the last few years.
Look, the SEC is going to be very tough and we still have road games @Gonzaga and Clemson left in the OOC and we WILL take some losses in SEC play. Does that mean we aren't the #9 team in America right now? Maybe. But, someone has to be in that spot. Might as well be UK!
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
I bet you were one of the Calipari apologists. Now you are hoping against all odds that Pope won’t do a better Job than Calipari would have. Just stop it.
 
When i first saw the title of this thread . I knew this was going to get ugly and brutal . History always has a way of being repetitious.

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HUUUUUGGGEEEE UK FAN.....but. Yeah sure. It's like someone slept through the Pitino years. And, oh no, what ever will we do against a great perimeter defense? Go ask Duke and see if they can explain it to you.

All you have to do is read the post and then look at the ones who liked it, especially someone with the screen name of a parasite, and you will see this is a troll job.
 
HUUUUUGGGEEEE UK FAN.....but. Yeah sure. It's like someone slept through the Pitino years. And, oh no, what ever will we do against a great perimeter defense? Go ask Duke and see if they can explain it to you.

All you have to do is read the post and then look at the ones who liked it, especially someone with the screen name of a parasite, and you will see this is a troll job.
Ole @BlueTick2 didn't just like it. He LOVED it. UK fan my foot!
 
So what you're saying is that Duke relies on the 3 just as much as Kentucky but it's fine for them because in an alternate reality they would have shot better than we did in reality.

BTW UCONN is shooting virtually the same number of 3s per game as us this year too. I wonder if they're any good. Great thread
 
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I’m like a huge fan of UK but I really think Duke is the best team in the nation guys. I graduated from UofL, but I bleed blue promise. I know we won, but I don’t see an Anthony Davis on this team. Who is gonna go out there and block every shot, and grab rebounds.? I know we shoot great and have a deep team, but who hits long 2’s deep in the shot clock? Who wins the rock fight?
 
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I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
See guys, when you possess critical reading skills, it's easy to identify poseurs.
 
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Questioning if we are even a top 20 team? 🤪 Id assume OP hasnt watched any other teams play this year.....The numbers imply we are an elite team if for some reason being undefeated and crushing everyone else while beating one of the title favorite teams doesnt pass your eye test from a group put together in like 2 months.....If Arizona doesnt shoot 26% from 3 and beats duke then what would that mean? Hard to take such a bad opinion serious
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
Maybe you're just "too" concerned. Pope will upgrade the recruiting but he will remain the elite level coach we've seen this year. We will take some losses this year but we will be in every game with a chance to win.
 
I’m like a hug fan of UK but I really think Duke is the best team in the nation guys. I graduated from UofL, but I bleed blue promise. I know we won, but I don’t see an Anthony Davis on this team. Who is gonna go out there and block every shot, and grab rebounds.? I know we shoot great and have a deep team, but who hits long 2’s deep in the shot clock? Who wins the rock fight?
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To say this team might not even be top 20 is asinine.
It's as ridiculous as Herros constantly says 40-0. Hell it's even more ridiculous.
Look it's a long season and the SEC is loaded. Going to be playing a lot of tough road games. Going to take some losses like every team will.
But there is zero chance this team isn't ranked in the top 10-15 range at seasons end. Likely top 5.
The absolute floor for this team is a 4 seed. I believe they will likely be a 2 and I wouldn't be surprised at a 1 seed.
 
Imagine if Reed Shepard had stayed 1 more year what kind of team we would have had
Loved Reed, but if he stays, we probably don't get someone. This doesn't take anything away from my thoughts on Reed, but I believe Oweh is more important to this team than what having Reed would add. May not agree with me, but that's my honest opinion.
 
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I can see my post has resulted in a lot of thought provoking very well thought out responses which is what I had hoped. Like I said I am a huge UK fan as graduated from there , met my wife there and we’re within 8 days of celebrating our 50th wedding anniversary. Thanks 🙏 for all of the great responses.
Well now you’ve outed yourself as a troll . Because there’s no way a woman would stay married to someone that stupid.
 
I know that we beat our hated Rivals The PUKE Blue Devils and we have three other gaudy wins against very inferior opposition. It took Puke shooting terribly from 3 point range and UK at a very respectable 40 percent for us to eke out a very close win. Had the shooting percentages been reversed, which they well could be in a future game with Puke, it could equate to a 15-20 point loss for UK the next time we play them.

My concern is that if UK depends solely on hitting a high number of 3’s per game then when we don’t we will lose. Remember the old adage that when we live by the three, we can certainly die by the three when we are not hitting from the outside.

My concern in particular is when we play a team like Tennessee or another team who plays very tight man to man defense, then we will struggle to score from the outside which is our forte. 🙏 Please someone convince me I am wrong and give me reasons to believe UK truly is a top 10-15 team. I just truly believe UK is currently way over ranked, based for the most part on our win over Puke. I truly believe if we played this current Puke team or a team similar in talent UK would lose 8 out of 10 times.
Drugs-too much and lack of can both cause these issues.
 
There’s really zero room for negativity at this point. At least wait til they lose a game. Picking apart a top 10 win against a team that just hammered another ranked team. Thats weird.

Either way, shadow man heads to the ignored member list.
 
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