Barnhart should be run out of Lexington for not hiring Petrino!

[morgousky]

I wished Cal was more open about discipline and I think he is probably too lenient but that's not a deal killer for me . I am not looking for a saint if a coach and there is but a small group that I wouldn't want at UK fb or bb , Petrino is at the very top . I wouldn't want Larry Brown as bb coach , probation waiting to happen . No to Butch Davis , again probation . I would take Tressel , I don't think he is the nomad type that leaves wreckage in his wake repeatedly and he had long stints that display commitment . This is not black and white , there are grey areas .

I can agree with that. Judging from your post though, I don't believe if I took the full body of Cal at UM and applied it to a football coach you'b be all in. It doesn't fit with some of your positions. But it's my opinion and I don't fully disagree with everything you're saying.

 

[Xception]

It's not dumb to compare the two, it's actually a fair comparison. The only difference is that Saban hasn't been caught taking his mistress for a ride on his motorcycle.

Saban hasn't left mid season for his hiring press conference , he hasn't told lies to every AD and owner . He hasn't hired his mistress and opened the school up to litigation . Any school in college would hire Saban in a second , he is the top coach in the game with no major issues to speak of .

Petrino is only hirable at WKU or UL , nobody wanted him . I guess they hate motorcycles or maybe there's something more to it . That's how dishonest the Petrino group is , they present it as a simple motorcycle ride . You deserve each other , too bad you'll never be together

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

I don't like Bobby Petrino, but the guy is brilliant offensively. Also if Bobby P was our coach and Lamar Jackson was our QB, I seriously doubt all of you would care about his "baggage". Just saying

 

[Xception]

I can agree with that. Judging from your post though, I don't believe if I took the full body of Cal at UM and applied it to a football coach you'b be all in. It doesn't fit with some of your positions. But it's my opinion and I don't fully disagree with everything you're saying.

It does fit because the difference between Cal and Petrinos problems are nothing alike . Please point out exactly where it doesn't fit .

 

[Crootin]

Petrino is only hirable at WKU or UL

Baloney. They're already talking about him on LSU and Auburn boards. Programs that want to win want winners.

I wouldn't be surprised if he left Louisville after this year, but it would be to a power team that WANTS TO WIN.

 

[meteordealer]

We arent the only program to pass on petrino. He was such damaged goods and only wku would take a chance on him at the time. I'm no fan of mitch but I'm not goin to blame him for not hiring that turd.

I haven't heard anyone criticize Petrino since he took the UL job. There were a few articles that came out just after it was announced that he had accepted the Louisville job but all of that quickly went away once he proved himself and started winning. Now the only articles being printed are talking about what an amazing coach Petrino is and how his team looks like a Title contender.

Meanwhile, we're still farting around with a bumbling coaching staff, 4-5 win seasons, and pipe dreams of a toilet bowl.

You can also kiss recruiting goodbye. We have had numerous de-commits over the Summer. All of the top ranked players in the state will now be flocking to UL.

 

[meteordealer]

Saban hasn't left mid season for his hiring press conference , he hasn't told lies to every AD and owner . He hasn't hired his mistress and opened the school up to litigation . Any school in college would hire Saban in a second , he is the top coach in the game with no major issues to speak of .

Petrino is only hirable at WKU or UL , nobody wanted him . I guess they hate motorcycles or maybe there's something more to it . That's how dishonest the Petrino group is , they present it as a simple motorcycle ride . You deserve each other , too bad you'll never be together

Saban walked out on the Dolphins after promising them that he was NOT taking the Alabama job.

Everyone who has met him or works with him says he's the biggest asshole they've ever met.

Numerous Bama players have come forward saying that Saban was paying them while they were playing there.

Petrino has no major issues other than he was cheating on his wife. If that disqualifies a person from ever working again, 80% of the male population in America would be unemployed right now.

 

[secrules3]

Absolute football genius.

 

[Xception]

Baloney. They're already talking about him on LSU and Auburn boards. Programs that want to win want winners.

I wouldn't be surprised if he left Louisville after this year, but it would be to a power team that WANTS TO WIN.

So he's leaving Louisville already , changed man .

 

[Xception]

Saban walked out on the Dolphins after promising them that he was NOT taking the Alabama job.

Everyone who has met him or works with him says he's the biggest asshole they've ever met.

Numerous Bama players have come forward saying that Saban was paying them while they were playing there.

Petrino has no major issues other than he was cheating on his wife. If that disqualifies a person from ever working again, 80% of the male population in America would be unemployed right now.

Nobody would hire him , guess they should have consulted you . Thank you Mitch , the microwaves are crazy .

 

[skcatfan]

Absolute football genius.

A 4-10 record against ranked teams says otherwise.

 

[CatGotMyTongue]

if you're implying Petrino had a 3 way with Hurtt and Sypher.....yeah, you need to go on

 

[Deli owl]

God just STFU and go root for the Cards then. Cheating and being a complete scumbag isn't the only way to win at football.

It might be for us.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

We are what we are and both probably smart enough to stick to our guns if it's been working. I just don't think that fusing pc with character is valid or intended. Character involves more than committing to word of mouth as truth and the inability to even consider forgiveness as an option. PC is all that and worse but some use that as to what they believe to be character.

As far as leaning on the "alum" business maybe I'm not as much of a homer as some. I graduated from UK, UL with advanced work at both Alabama and Oklahoma so maybe my, admittedly, blue tinged glasses have a little shade of cynicism mixed with the blue. Although I care for UK it is or never has been a temple of virtue more than any other university. So maybe you should get out more or I should become more chauvinistic.

I have multiple degrees from different institutions, as well. Does not factor in when considering whether I want my school presenting as an institution of higher education should represent.

I did not fuse PC with character.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

If only we had Petrino for that one year that WKU had him , oh I forgot we would have pigeon holed him into an iron clad contract for eons . Because that's exactly what schools do when they hire a questionable coach , sign them to a lengthy contract with a huge buyout because your concerned that somebody will steal your scumbag coach that nobody wanted to hire . What a turnaround that one year would have been , oh I forgot he would have stayed here because we have all these amazing benefits that all coaches want . It's dumbfounding why we can't land a big time coach with all of those benefits but we'd uh had Bobby for life .

Don't want to hire a questionable coach.

 

[Jazzycat]

Petrino should not ever be a coaching candidate for the University of Ky. He has stated publicly that he loves beating the Cats and has no regard for the university.

UK can do much better. I share the frustration with the way the team is underperforming under Stoops. It is do or die this season. Would love to see a buy out and hire that would put UK back on the map, but fear it won't happen....GBB!

 

[morgousky]

It does fit because the difference between Cal and Petrinos problems are nothing alike . Please point out exactly where it doesn't fit .

I don't know it for sure. It's just an opinion from reading your position. If I laid out every incident with cal prior to UK I have a hard time believing you'd be all in. I explained it further above, I don't want to re post it. It's in the post where I said "it needs to be answered." Most people only cite the NCAA issues. There were more.

 

[meteordealer]

A 4-10 record against ranked teams says otherwise.

7-11 after his last year at Arkansas.

What's Stoops record versus Top 25 opponents?

 

[meteordealer]

Nobody would hire him , guess they should have consulted you . Thank you Mitch , the microwaves are crazy .

Mitch should consult someone. All of his hires have been atrocious. Cal was the exception but the boosters gave him no choice on that one.

 

[skcatfan]

7-11 after his last year at Arkansas.

What's Stoops record versus Top 25 opponents?

Did anyone on here claim Stoops was a coaching genius?

 

[skcatfan]

Did anyone on here claim Stoops was a coaching genius?

And where do you get Petrino is 7-11 against top 25 teams since he returned to UofL? Do you always make up crap?

 

[Shavers48]

And where do you get Petrino is 7-11 against top 25 teams since he returned to UofL? Do you always make up crap?

suggest you re-read

 

[Bluesnky]

Petrino has no major issues other than he was cheating on his wife. If that disqualifies a person from ever working again, 80% of the male population in America would be unemployed right now.

There was a lot more to it than cheating on his wife. Lying to police, putting his mistress on payroll, etc.

Although the fact that you think 80% of husbands commit adultery tells me why you think it is so hard to find a football coach who isn't known to be morally corrupt.

 

[skcatfan]

And where do you get Petrino is 7-11 against top 25 teams since he returned to UofL? Do you always make up crap?

Which ever way he was trying to phrase it his numbers are nowhere close to being correct.

 

[morgousky]

80% of husbands do not commit adultery. I struggle with this one and conform to my religious beliefs for guidance. It's something most men struggle with I think. Those that fall to it shouldn't be stoned.

Having issues with petrino's behavior and such is fine. Completely ignoring and choosing selecting outrage when applying it to former or current UK coaches is where the problem lies. It's very Indiana like. Not all coaches are the same. Example cal had baggage and pitrino had 10,000 pounds of luggage. I just think UK football needs to roll the dice more.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Petrino should not ever be a coaching candidate for the University of Ky. He has stated publicly that he loves beating the Cats and has no regard for the university.

UK can do much better. I share the frustration with the way the team is underperforming under Stoops. It is do or die this season. Would love to see a buy out and hire that would put UK back on the map, but fear it won't happen....GBB!

We can't do better than Petrino. Sorry, just disagree.

 

[Shavers48]

Which ever way he was trying to phrase it his numbers are nowhere close to being correct.

so you don't really know what he meant you just know he's wrong. gotcha

 

[skcatfan]

so you don't really know what he meant you just know he's wrong. gotcha

What he said could be interpreted two different ways and either way his numbers are nowhere close to being right. So yes I do know he's wrong

 

[Bluesnky]

80% of husbands do not commit adultery. I struggle with this one and conform to my religious beliefs for guidance. It's something most men struggle with I think. Those that fall to it shouldn't be stoned.

Having issues with petrino's behavior and such is fine. Completely ignoring and choosing selecting outrage when applying it to former or current UK coaches is where the problem lies. It's very Indiana like. Not all coaches are the same. Example cal had baggage and pitrino had 10,000 pounds of luggage. I just think UK football needs to roll the dice more.

To me it is a personal or family matter and shouldn't really factor in to a hiring decision. Except when the coach makes it more than a personal or family matter by his own actions. For example, Petrino.

 

[thebluestripes]

I haven't heard anyone criticize Petrino since he took the UL job. There were a few articles that came out just after it was announced that he had accepted the Louisville job but all of that quickly went away once he proved himself and started winning. Now the only articles being printed are talking about what an amazing coach Petrino is and how his team looks like a Title contender.

Meanwhile, we're still farting around with a bumbling coaching staff, 4-5 win seasons, and pipe dreams of a toilet bowl.

You can also kiss recruiting goodbye. We have had numerous de-commits over the Summer. All of the top ranked players in the state will now be flocking to UL.

I agree with most of what you say. Its sad to see our team this bad and petrino getting it done at ul, but my point is that very few schools wanted his services at the time. There is a reason for that

 

[ZZBlueComet]

Listen, there were a lot of jobs open, that didn't go after Petrino. Only UofL would take this POS - so let's give it a rest. If you want to give Mitch hell for not hiring a better hire than Stoops, that's fine - we all are assuming UK's board would've approved the Petrino hire - who knows, they may not have.

 

[Shavers48]

Listen, there were a lot of jobs open, that didn't go after Petrino. Only UofL would take this POS - so let's give it a rest. If you want to give Mitch hell for not hiring a better hire than Stoops, that's fine - we all are assuming UK's board would've approved the Petrino hire - who knows, they may not have.

there is NO way any embarassment the school would have suffered by hiring Petrino comes within light years of the kind of embarrassment currently being experienced by this collection of incompetents on national TV today.

 

[meteordealer]

And where do you get Petrino is 7-11 against top 25 teams since he returned to UofL? Do you always make up crap?

At the time this article was published (August 2014), he was 14-17 against ranked opponents over his entire career.
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...fares-vs-power-conference-opponents/14331571/

 

[ukwazoo]

Anyone that thinks Petrino would not have been dynamic here doesn't know football....what a blunder!

When have we ever gone after the best candidate? We just want good, clean, & wholesome.

 

[skcatfan]

At the time this article was published (August 2014), he was 14-17 against ranked opponents over his entire career.
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...fares-vs-power-conference-opponents/14331571/

You used the Courier Journal as a source so that's the problem. Because this game isn't watchable I did my own research and looked it up for myself. This is his record against teams ranked at the time his teams played them. At UofL his record was 4-5 the first stint and 0-5 his current one. That's 4-10. At Arkansas his teams were 9-12 which is a bit more respectable. Overall that adds up to 13-22. Someone called him a coaching genius and with that record against quality competition he doesn't appear to be one to me. Is he better than Stoops? My answer to that is who the hell isnt? After today's game he's making a run for being on the Joker Phillips level of ineptitude.

 

[mapcatfan]

I haven't read very much of this thread, and that's probably a good thing..........if I want to keep the contents of my stomach intact. Bobby Petrino?

Just no.

 

[shutzhund]

I have multiple degrees from different institutions, as well. Does not factor in when considering whether I want my school presenting as an institution of higher education should represent.

I did not fuse PC with character.

Fair enough and we don't have that much to disagree on in any event.

 

[Poetax]

season ticket sale trends would indicate that is likely happening

Son, whatever makes them happy.

 

[Bill Bixby II]

Same group. Still ignorant, still emotional, still clueless, still wrong.

 

[Cefiro]

Same group. Still ignorant, still emotional, still clueless, still wrong.

Way to dig up a 6 year old post!