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Barnhart should be run out of Lexington for not hiring Petrino!

Back when the search was taking place for a new football coach, I was hoping we would land Butch Jones. To me, it was an opportunity for MB to move UK football in a positive direction, but I wasn't sure which head coaches would actually be interested in the position. Not sure Jones was interested, but thought he might have been our best hope at the time. Was disappointed when MB went with a DC with no HC experience, but was willing to be optimistic based on his name.
 
yeah, he's a monster. do they lock him up sun-thurs? they must let him out for his press conferences. amazing isn't it that someone who is as bad as you say he is can function in that role the same as all the other guys in that role elsewhere.
Go cheer for UL if he's your dream coach , your logic ties in well with everything they do over there .
 
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Back when the search was taking place for a new football coach, I was hoping we would land Butch Jones. To me, it was an opportunity for MB to move UK football in a positive direction, but I wasn't sure which head coaches would actually be interested in the position. Not sure Jones was interested, but thought he might have been our best hope at the time. Was disappointed when MB went with a DC with no HC experience, but was willing to be optimistic based on his name.
In order to strike gold UK has to search the coordinator ranks , you might hit the next best thing . With head coaches we're never going to strike gold , fools gold maybe .
 
Had Petrino been at UK, he would have left when Louisville came open

This is only one reason why these threads are asinine.



Had Petrino come here and been successful I have zero doubts he would have left at the first big offer - not sure UL is that big, but he would have other opportunities.


That said - I would have enjoyed his success here and that success would have led to the cupboard not being bare for the next coach who we would have gotten much easier following a successful one.

Compare that to the scenario if we must replace CMS in 2 years...

That said 2 - Yes he's a scumbag but I dont really care about his personal life, I am more concerned with how he treated his teams - Falcons, UL, etc some shitty moves on his part.
 
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Having character is not PC today. I think you are confusing concepts. And, the idea that people with character need to apologize for that is prevalent on these BP and Briles threads. As an alum and not just a fan, I prefer to have my school represented by those with something more than a pedestrian standard. Many don't care. But, I do and I won't be snarked or belittled into feeling different.


We are what we are and both probably smart enough to stick to our guns if it's been working. I just don't think that fusing pc with character is valid or intended. Character involves more than committing to word of mouth as truth and the inability to even consider forgiveness as an option. PC is all that and worse but some use that as to what they believe to be character.

As far as leaning on the "alum" business maybe I'm not as much of a homer as some. I graduated from UK, UL with advanced work at both Alabama and Oklahoma so maybe my, admittedly, blue tinged glasses have a little shade of cynicism mixed with the blue. Although I care for UK it is or never has been a temple of virtue more than any other university. So maybe you should get out more or I should become more chauvinistic.
 
Had Petrino come here and been successful I have zero doubts he would have left at the first big offer - not sure UL is that big, but he would have other opportunities.


That said - I would have enjoyed his success here and that success would have led to the cupboard not being bare for the next coach who we would have gotten much easier following a successful one.

Compare that to the scenario if we must replace CMS in 2 years...

That said 2 - Yes he's a scumbag but I dont really care about his personal life, I am more concerned with how he treated his teams - Falcons, UL, etc some shitty moves on his part.

I agree that he would have left at the first offer. Still that's a better situation than what we have. Look at Western. He left them at the first offer and they got paid handsomely. Which would you rater have a coach that wins for you and leaves and you get a huge buyout from another school, or you hire a coach that embarrasses you and you have pay 20 million to get rid of him? I'll take the former.

I despise Petrino and wasn't big on hiring him. I never looked at him as the once in a life time hire that many on here still do. I would even prefer he leave after he started winning. I did look at him as a good short term fix until your program was back on it's feet. I do believe Petrino is replaceable. He's not the Nick Saban type that most want to make him out to be. He is however guaranteed to win in the short term and eventually leave.
 
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Honest Bobby is a scum bag we need no part of trash like him..if you want to dance with the devil become a Lil Brother..they need your support..Personally i want to have some respect..When you have bottom feeders like Petrino and SEXtino well figure it out..Petrino was blackballed in SEC for lying to Arkansas AD..he will never work anywhere except sewers like uavel..NCAA will hammer uavel over the hooker scandal..When Lamont Jackson gets powdered trying to run up the score..let's hear Bobby's excuse..:cool2::cool2:
You're the same guy who was arrested for impersonating an police officer just to follow Rick Pitino around during the 90's.

What is your excuse Grover Sales?
 
If only we had Petrino for that one year that WKU had him , oh I forgot we would have pigeon holed him into an iron clad contract for eons . Because that's exactly what schools do when they hire a questionable coach , sign them to a lengthy contract with a huge buyout because your concerned that somebody will steal your scumbag coach that nobody wanted to hire . What a turnaround that one year would have been , oh I forgot he would have stayed here because we have all these amazing benefits that all coaches want . It's dumbfounding why we can't land a big time coach with all of those benefits but we'd uh had Bobby for life .
 
If only we had Petrino for that one year that WKU had him , oh I forgot we would have pigeon holed him into an iron clad contract for eons . Because that's exactly what schools do when they hire a questionable coach , sign them to a lengthy contract with a huge buyout because your concerned that somebody will steal your scumbag coach that nobody wanted to hire . What a turnaround that one year would have been , oh I forgot he would have stayed here because we have all these amazing benefits that all coaches want . It's dumbfounding why we can't land a big time coach with all of those benefits but we'd uh had Bobby for life .
Don't feel bad, there is only a handful of schools that can land the Big time coaches. UK and UL aren't among those schools.
 
You should be thinking about the young coach at the University of Houston! That young man knows how to win and build a football program.
 
You should be thinking about the young coach at the University of Houston! That young man knows how to win and build a football program.


That young man has zero reasons to consider UK.
 
Look at this loyalty but he would have stayed at UK

Carroll (MT) (GA)
1984 Weber State (GA)
1985–1986 Carroll (MT) (OC)
1987–1988 Weber State (WR/TE)
1989 Idaho (QB)
1990–1991 Idaho (OC)
1992–1993 Arizona State (QB)
1994 Nevada (OC/QB)
1995–1997 Utah State (OC)
1998 Louisville (OC)
1999–2000 Jacksonville Jaguars (QB)
2001 Jacksonville Jaguars (OC)
2002 Auburn (OC)
2003–2006 Louisville
2007 Atlanta Falcons
2008–2011 Arkansas
2013 Western Kentucky
2014–present Louisville
wow, 18 line items. I googled nick saban and he had 14. good lord, I could make better arguments for you than you make for yourself.
 
wow, 18 line items. I googled nick saban and he had 14. good lord, I could make better arguments for you than you make for yourself.
You haven't made a good argument of any kind , taking a beating seems to be your lone skill set . It doesn't matter as I've already won this argument previously , Petrinos not here and never will be . Game set match
 
You haven't made a good argument of any kind , taking a beating seems to be your lone skill set . It doesn't matter as I've already won this argument previously , Petrinos not here and never will be . Game set match
you won huh, must be like in little league where everyone gets a trophy. good job Jimmy!
 
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Petrino owns UK always has and always will , he will always out coach whoever Barnhart hires , if you guys like losing to him that fine, we will get a lot more of it.
 
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well must not be talking to football fans or people who care about winning. ha ha
No it's really a simple concept. I want to win more than anyone on here but I don't believe you have to hire a guy who has been PROVEN to be the biggest POS in college football to do it.
 
I have absolutely no interest in Bobby Perrino. I'm sure there's plenty of folks on the Louisville board willing to discuss it over some Crown Royal
Petrino would have UK in the playoff mix by his third year if he were the coach here.
No he wouldn't. He still hasn't gotten Louisville there and all he has to do is beat Clemson and FSU
 
No it's really a simple concept. I want to win more than anyone on here but I don't believe you have to hire a guy who has been PROVEN to be the biggest POS in college football to do it.


there has been a lot "POS " hired by UK in the past but it doesn't get out and we pat ourselves on the back and tell ourselves we are the good guys. classic hypocrites

all know a lot people who played football at UK and almost all of them will tell you we should have hired him, but know if they say anything they will get labeled as " POS" by the Moral police that UK has developed
 
there has been a lot "POS " hired by UK in the past but it doesn't get out and we pat ourselves on the back and tell ourselves we are the good guys. classic hypocrites

all know a lot people who played football at UK and almost all of them will tell you we should have hired him, but know if they say anything they will get labeled as " POS" by the Moral police that UK has developed
It ain't just Kentucky fans that think Bobbies a scumbag
 
Some folks on here have a complex with this guy.

Hes a good coach but hardly the second coming of Bear Bryant.

Besides, look where our program was when Stoops was hired. Has Petrino ever had to build a program? He gets credit for Louisville but John L. had them rolling pretty good when he took over, Arkansas was coming off a successful run under Houston Nutt.
 
there has been a lot "POS " hired by UK in the past but it doesn't get out and we pat ourselves on the back and tell ourselves we are the good guys. classic hypocrites

all know a lot people who played football at UK and almost all of them will tell you we should have hired him, but know if they say anything they will get labeled as " POS" by the Moral police that UK has developed
I guess you're referring to Howard Schnellenberger. I would have rather seen him get the job instead of Bill Curry.
 
You continue to try and tie similarities together that aren't alike by associating one word or the slimmest of circumstances . Petrinos baggage or issues is different than anybody you can find , it's absolutely worlds apart from Cals . People realized how ignorant of Cals situation because it happened before Internet was prevalent and you relied on media interpretation , which was jaded . They deployed the same dipshitty tactic you've been using in "well there two vacated f4's" to insinuate that Cal was the source of the problem , details be damned . Petrinos problems are well chronicled and there will be no revelation exhonerating him, he is the direct and only source of his problems . So the baggage talk is bs , nothing alike .

You guys are flat out disingenuous and that's why you would take Petrino . You are not even remotely interested in the truth but only in trying to salvage an Internet discussion at any expense , to hell with logic or the worst comparisons that could be summoned . You wanted Petrino and will say any crazy ass thing to make it seem like the right choice . Tressel is not like Petrino either , stop lumping everybody in with that pos . Tressel got in NCAA issues which is nothing like or has nothing to do with the deceitful loser BP . Tressel didn't abandon a team with a sticky note only to show up at a press conference later , nobody but Bobby does that .

Trying to tie Petrinos problems with anybody else is a fail , you can't whitewash his actions this way . It's Petrino that nobody likes , not everyone who makes a mistake , just that sorry pos . So we don't even need to be concerned about the next time because there's only been one Bobby Petrino . If we hire a fb coach that has had some NCAA troubles or whatever then you won't see the resistance because it is nothing like this situation .

So baggage is fine just not Petrino baggage. Ok, that's fine. sort of what I'm getting at. If you're ok with hiring guys with some baggage then I'm fine with you not wanting to go as far as a Petrino type. Don't fully Agree but it is what it is.

X did you know about all of Cals discipline issues at UM that I mentioned? i ask becaus none of those same issues have repeated here at UK. I think some of this crap is done where allowed. UM and UL is not UK. I think it's something to rememeber in the future. Don't see how it's not a valid point.
 
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Look at at it this way. If a football coach who was recruiting to an extremely high level, the best in college football, was at a mid major program, and he had players in trouble for hookers, drugs, inciting riots in night clubs at 2am, two full football seasons stripped, and final appearances stripped, would you be ok with hiring him in football? This needs to be answered because that was Cals wrap sheet at UM. Don't like it but it was happening on his watch. Does it compare incident for incident at a school like UL? Hell no, but it's still a good bit of baggage.

Fantastic paragraph and a must read(or must deal with) for any Wildcat fan that wants a successful football program. The morality police appear more jealous and dare I say butthurt than anything. I admit that I'm jealous as hell but I believe that all we need to succeed is to treat our football program exactly like the basketball program: demand the best and to hell with the haters.

I'll also add that anybody that thinks Petrino is unforgivable and that anyone who employs him is garbage too, you'd better not even think about cheering for WKU on the side because they're terrible too, right?

Screw that. Hire a winner.
 
Im about done with this Petrino crap but a point needs to be made in terms of his contract. If the reports and rumors were accurate, there would have been a massive buyout and stipulations on years. I don't believe it would have been possible to Petrino to leave after a few years. His reputation would have been nuked (for good) and the contract probably wouldn't have allowed it.
 
Fantastic paragraph and a must read(or must deal with) for any Wildcat fan that wants a successful football program. The morality police appear more jealous and dare I say butthurt than anything. I admit that I'm jealous as hell but I believe that all we need to succeed is to treat our football program exactly like the basketball program: demand the best and to hell with the haters.

I'll also add that anybody that thinks Petrino is unforgivable and that anyone who employs him is garbage too, you'd better not even think about cheering for WKU on the side because they're terrible too, right?

Screw that. Hire a winner.
Petrino was stashed at wku by Tom Jurich because he knew Strong was leaving.
 
I was proud of UK for not hiring Petrino , he walked out on a nfl team for crying out loud . He can't be trusted and is a low life person , you don't have to bastardize your school to win . The comparison of Saban to Petrino is just beyond dumb , not being a saint and being Petrino is as bad as examples get . Petrino is not making everyday mistakes , most coaches don't have any significant issues and yet people still make stupid comments like everybody makes mistakes . Never once have I thought that passing on him was a mistake , when he implodes again it will be on UL again .
It's not dumb to compare the two, it's actually a fair comparison. The only difference is that Saban hasn't been caught taking his mistress for a ride on his motorcycle.
 
Fantastic paragraph and a must read(or must deal with) for any Wildcat fan that wants a successful football program. The morality police appear more jealous and dare I say butthurt than anything. I admit that I'm jealous as hell but I believe that all we need to succeed is to treat our football program exactly like the basketball program: demand the best and to hell with the haters.

I'll also add that anybody that thinks Petrino is unforgivable and that anyone who employs him is garbage too, you'd better not even think about cheering for WKU on the side because they're terrible too, right?

Screw that. Hire a winner.

I hate bringing it up, I really do. Cals above what was happening at Memphis. He's proven it. But we've got some selective moral outrage going on that is completely overlooking some of the baggage cal had at UM. I bring it up for two points.

1. To show that coaches can come to family oriented programs like UK and change methods.

2. To prove UK has rolled the dice before (albeit different circumstances) and it's worked out better than fine. It's worked our great.
 
So baggage is fine just not Petrino baggage. Ok, that's fine. sort of what I'm getting at. If you're ok with hiring guys with some baggage then I'm fine with you not wanting to go as far as a Petrino type. Don't fully Agree but it is what it is.

X did you know about all of Cals discipline issues at UM that I mentioned? i ask becaus none of those same issues have repeated here at UK. I think some of this crap is done where allowed. UM and UL is not UK. I think it's something to rememeber in the future. Don't see how it's not a valid point.
I wished Cal was more open about discipline and I think he is probably too lenient but that's not a deal killer for me . I am not looking for a saint if a coach and there is but a small group that I wouldn't want at UK fb or bb , Petrino is at the very top . I wouldn't want Larry Brown as bb coach , probation waiting to happen . No to Butch Davis , again probation . I would take Tressel , I don't think he is the nomad type that leaves wreckage in his wake repeatedly and he had long stints that display commitment . This is not black and white , there are grey areas .
 
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