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Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:
Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.
Yep there is always 2 sides to every story, just looking at that tweet you can see the EKU dude is no angel. He admits throwing beer bottles at Nerlen's car, but Drew started a fight with him? Ok.

Hope Matt Jones sees that guys tweet, he clearly is aggressive towards other UK players.
 
Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:

Originally posted by THE_OAK:
The bigger question is why in the hell would they want to go to a bar in Richmond?
Back when I was at UK, the laws in Lexington and Richmond were different. A person had to be 21 to get into a Lexington bar, but a person only had to be 18 to get into a Richmond bar. We used to go out in Richmond for that reason. I'm not sure if the rules are still the same.
One would think that you would have to be 21 to get into any bar. That's just asking for trouble letting under aged people into a bar. Sounds like something Richmond would allow.
 
Originally posted by THE_OAK:
Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:

Originally posted by THE_OAK:
The bigger question is why in the hell would they want to go to a bar in Richmond?
Back when I was at UK, the laws in Lexington and Richmond were different. A person had to be 21 to get into a Lexington bar, but a person only had to be 18 to get into a Richmond bar. We used to go out in Richmond for that reason. I'm not sure if the rules are still the same.
One would think that you would have to be 21 to get into any bar. That's just asking for trouble letting under aged people into a bar. Sounds like something Richmond would allow.
I agree. It was a weird rule. I'd be interested to find out if you still only have to be 18 to get into the bars in Richmond. I know the court system in Madison County collected a fortune in underage drinking and alcohol intoxication fines, which is an inevitable result of allowing 18 year olds into bars.
 
These situations, embarrassing as they appear, happen across the college landscape in one form or another. While it would be wonderful to have a team of academic all America's and perfect gentlemen playing in the SEC, the name of the game is win. And, winning comes from resolve, determination and the will to succeed.

While many of us are quick to condemn this alleged action in Richmond, the bottom line is (allegedly) this team is building a fighter's attitude and while these (allegedly) reprehensible actions show something we haven't seen in many, many years. Folks, this decidedly bad situation is defined in our southern schools as reason to give minor punishment for an action all successful football coaches love, but will never state: there is fight regardless of the circumstances.

As Fran Curci told the board of trustees in the late 70s when confronted with his renegade football team: "you wanted to win, didn't you?" Paul Bryant was one of the most brutal coaches who ever won in a manner that defined Alabama. While these means to be successful is not what Mark Stoops is all about, his will to win is just the same as the Bear.

At the end of the day, what is the price to build that winining program? If our players are implicated and proven at fault, where does punishment and winning in the SEC cross boundaries to the road to glory?

Or, do we judge this unfortunate incident as a disgrace or something else polite company doesn't discuss.
 
Originally posted by StillBlue83:

Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:
Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.
Yep there is always 2 sides to every story, just looking at that tweet you can see the EKU dude is no angel. He admits throwing beer bottles at Nerlen's car, but Drew started a fight with him? Ok.

Hope Matt Jones sees that guys tweet, he clearly is aggressive towards other UK players.
yeah, the fact that he bragged on twitter about provoking Nerlens Noel makes me think he wasn't "jumped" by UK players how the bouncer's so credible girlfriend claims.
 
Originally posted by why_not_kentucky:
Calm down folks...Boys will be boys and these things happen all the time.
First let me say we don't have enough information yet to have a clear picture of what happened. If what is rumored is true this is not "boys being boys" this would be 1st degree assault, a felony and likely jail time.
 
Originally posted by permdaddy:

Originally posted by why_not_kentucky:
Calm down folks...Boys will be boys and these things happen all the time.
First let me say we don't have enough information yet to have a clear picture of what happened. If what is rumored is true this is not "boys being boys" this would be 1st degree assault, a felony and likely jail time.
why would you first say we don't have enough information and then start throwing around the word felony? This EKU football player admits on twitter provoking Nerlens Noel. I love football but I don't see Noel, a future NBA 1st round pick at the time, wanting to fight a redneck OVC offensive lineman. It's a reasonable inference that the EKU football player started something with Noel for no good reason and then bragged about it on twitter.

At this point, all we really know is a bar fight occurred so don't start throwing out the word felony.

This post was edited on 1/27 8:27 PM by C.W.1
 
Originally posted by ok-cats-computer:
Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.
That's been removed. Hope somebody got a screenshot.
 
Re: Bad News?[/URL]ok-cats-computer posted on 1/27/2015...

Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.







That page doesn't exist anymore. Anybody have a screenshot of it?
 
Originally posted by gobigblue812:



Re: Bad News?[/URL]ok-cats-computer posted on 1/27/2015...

Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.







That page doesn't exist anymore. Anybody have a screenshot of it?
He changed his account to private now.
 
Originally posted by StillBlue83:


Louisville, KY

Two Eastern Kentucky students say EKU's Colton Scurry was instigator in bar fight involving three UK football players. New story upcoming.
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Not surprised after seeing him bragging about throwing beer bottles at Noel's car. Sociopathic. That said Stoops has to be livid they were there and got sucked in.
 
Originally posted by StillBlue83:


Originally posted by Deeeefense:
It would be prudent to wait until all the details of this incident are in including the UK Players side before we start condemning their conduct. Right now all this speculation is based on an interview with the girlfriend of the bartender who is an EKU fan.
Agreed, it is sad that all these UK fans assume it was our players fault because of the bb gun stuff last fall. UK fans should back their players, not throw them under the bus based on rumors.
Both of you are right to a degree. Speaking for myself only but I'm more frustrated that these players that have so much riding on keeping their nose clean and names out of the news are dumb enough to put themselves in these situations. Instead of being underage at a bar at 1 in the morning they should be in their dorm or apartment. I know the average college kid goes to bars and drinks but they aren't the average college kid. They are high profile kids that are getting their college education for free. They have a whole team and coaching staff depending on them.
 
Starting to sound like our boys just dished out the tough love this thug's daddy should have given him a few years ago.
 
Well one possible bright side, at least the strength and conditioning program is working. Poor taste sad joke. I wish the kid from EKU a good recovery.

As always I'll wait for the investigation to end before forming an opinion.
 
Re: Bad News?[/URL]StillBlue83 posted on 1/27/2015...



Originally posted by gobigblue812:




Re: Bad News?[/URL]ok-cats-computer posted on 1/27/2015...


Check out the link below. It is a twitter post by the guy that was allegedly beaten up by the UK football players. The twitter post makes it seem that the guy might have a history of trying to fight UK athletes.







That page doesn't exist anymore. Anybody have a screenshot of it?
He changed his account to private now.






I wonder why he did that???
 
While living in Florida my son had many friends that played at UF. Although they competed against each other in high school they were friends off the field. I cant tell you how many times they got in fights just going to pump gas. Some dumbass always wanted to challenge. A linebacker who my son was with one day (everyone would know his name now) just pulled into a gas station, and it was all on. Just because he played for UF. I goes on everywhere.
 
Look above in one of the threads it will have the link


This post was edited on 1/27 9:19 PM by CATS1945
 
Not sure how to post it, but I have a picture of his twitter and he is basically gloating about throwing beer bottles at Nerlens Noels car. Sounds like he is a little chithead and got what he deserved.
 
I took a couple of screen shots of the tweet just in case the proper authorities are interested in seeing it.



This post was edited on 1/27 9:29 PM by TJS4UK
 
Several years ago I went into a bar and grabbed a beer, hadn't taken no more than 2 sips when this a**hole started punching me in the back of my head. All I remember is a bright flash of light then kinda coming too with my hands around dudes throat trying to pull it out and I had all the bouncers on me trying to get my fingers out if his throat. After they got my fingers out if his throat my ogre hand still was a hold of dudes shirt. It of course was ripped off as they fell backwards with me on the ground. Dude rolled over on the floor in a pile and the guys over by him were screaming for somebody to call 911. They ended up holding me until the cops came and they cuffed me and led me outside to an ambulance. They were looking me over for cuts and she said she didn't see any and she asked me where all the blood come from. I didn't know what she was talking about. The girl I was with come out and looked at me and started crying so I guess I had a lot of blood on me lol. Anyways I was drenched in blood but it wasn't mine it was the guy the started punching me in the back of the head.
The cops said I was under arrest for assault and prob more charges as they brought dude out on a stretcher. When I saw him I got kinda scared because they were working on him to stabilize him. His blood pressure bottomed out and they rushed him to the emergency room. I told the cops that I was minding m own business when this dude hit me several times in the back of the head and I don't know what happened after that too much. He didn't believe me and I told him I had witnesses. They closed down the bar and peoe were now everywhere and some overheard what I said and they said that it was true that the other guy started it. Had several people come to my defense and tell the police that the guy had even hit me upside the head from the back with a bottle and it busted. And I had turned around and pulled him down by the shirt and started hitting him all over his head.
Dude was pretty good sized fella come to find out, 6'7" 280. He had told some dudes he was gonna whoop my ass because I was messing with his wife. Which was untrue. A guy where I work told him this because a girl here liked me and not him. Ain't that some bs? Thought he was gonna find the baddest dude to beat me up lol I still want to kick that guys tail to this day.

I ended up going to court over this and all the judge gave me was a ticket for fighting.

Trust me the guy I beat up looked a heck of a lot worse than this EKU a**hole. A whole lot worse!! So let's see what occurred first before we get too worked about it.
And their is a moral to what happened to me. You never know who you messing with when u pick a fight or what they are capable of. I seen guys look like total wimps become bears and best the heck out of a guy that thought he was Billy badass. Hopefully this EKU kid will now realize he can get his tail kicked soon with anybody else. He might become a target himself after UK fans find out that he has been targeting UK players trying to get them in trouble by trying to fight them. That was really stupid on his part.
 
Worst Case Scenario

If we lose some players over this bar fight do you all think we can get in on anyone this late in the recruiting game? It will suck royally if Barker is lost. I doubt we can get another quarterback of his caliber this year. With Max Smith gone, that would leave us in a very shaky position with an injury at quarterback. I really hope we don't lose him, but with this being a second possible issue with him, I will just hope for the best. Hopefully it will turn out for the better for any of our players involved.
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Re: Worst Case Scenario

I think you jumping to conclusions there Festus. Wait till the details come out.
 
Regardless of who's at fault Barker is being a poor leader

Turning out to be a serious question mark

This post was edited on 1/27 10:10 PM by catman22
 
Re: Worst Case Scenario

Jesus H Christ. If we boot players over this we'll never field a team. A bar fight where where they weren't the instigators and playing with toy guns. Oh the shame. I'll be embarrassed if we even suspend them for a quarter of a game for this. At worst this is run a mile after practice kind of stuff.
 
Re: No matter who's faukt Barker is being a poor leader

Maybe he was being a leader taking up for his friend. Might have had no other
option. Let's see what comes out before judging. He might be a have your back leader type.
 
Re: Regardless of who's at fault Barker is being a poor leader

Based upon what we know and what Tim Sullivan has reported, it could very well have been that the EKU lineman (who bragged on twitter about throwing beer bottles at Nerlens Noel's car, chanting "F UK" at Noel and bragged that Nerlens wouldn't come back to Richmond) completely started it and started disrespecting UK. Barker was in a crowd of people and some may have took exception to the disrespect. I've been around 40 year old men who aren't going to let some guy disrespect them. Barker can't control how everybody in his crowd reacts to a loud mouth disrespecting UK and them.

I'm not ready to get on the internet and start attacking Drew Barker for what happened and nobody should.
 
I must be in the minority, but IF THIS IS TRUE, and early on it's pointing in that direction, we do not have room for repeat offenders on the roster.

Curtis Pulley was kicked off the team for an accumulation of minor charges (weed, traffic related) and nobody was too upset about it.

Baker might be our most talented wideout (certainly the best blocking one), Barker seems to be the future, and Dubose is a promising prospect as well. However, with two incidents (assuming this is a true report) in under a year, you have to worry about guys who will eventually be leading the team setting a bad example or creating a toxic environment. If these were UL players, this board would be saying this was typical thug behavior under Petrino.

Look, I hope they're innocent as much as the next guy. These are three of the most gifted athletes on the roster. However, I'm in college and I would NEVER shoot anything resembling a gun on campus or assault someone. The EKU player seems to be an ass, and I don't know the full story, but there are rarely times when smashing a bottle over someone's head and ganging up 3 to 1 is an appropriate reaction. I hope he makes a full recovery and I hope that depending on the outcome of this, the proper actions are taken.

This is not "boys will be boys" or "young kids these days," this is outright stupidity and unacceptable if true.
This post was edited on 1/27 10:47 PM by germuk
 
Originally posted by germuk:
I must be in the minority, but IF THIS IS TRUE, and early on it's pointing in that direction, we do not have room for repeat offenders on the roster.

Curtis Pulley was kicked off the team for an accumulation of minor charges (weed, traffic related) and nobody was too upset about it.

Baker might be our most talented wideout (certainly the best blocking one), Barker seems to be the future, and Dubose is a promising prospect as well. However, with two incidents (assuming this is a true report) in under a year, you have to worry about guys who will eventually be leading the team setting a bad example or creating a toxic environment. If these were UL players, this board would be saying this was typical thug behavior under Petrino.

Look, I hope they're innocent as much as the next guy. These are three of the most gifted athletes on the roster. However, I'm in college and I would NEVER shoot anything resembling a gun on campus or assault someone. The EKU player seems to be an ass, and I don't know the full story, but there are rarely times when smashing a bottle over someone's head and ganging up 3 to 1 is an appropriate reaction. I hope he makes a full recovery and I hope that depending on the outcome of this, the proper actions are taken.

This is not "boys will be boys" or "young kids these days," this is outright stupidity and unacceptable if true.
This post was edited on 1/27 10:47 PM by germuk
Two incidents? One involved a pellet gun. The other involved a fight with a guy who sounds like he was overdue (bragged about throwing beer bottles at Nerlens Noel's car, etc.) having a UK player stand up to him. Sorry but this is nothing, even if it is 2 incidents. Two benign incidents does not add up to a serious incident.
 
Originally posted by C.W.1:

Originally posted by germuk:
I must be in the minority, but IF THIS IS TRUE, and early on it's pointing in that direction, we do not have room for repeat offenders on the roster.

Curtis Pulley was kicked off the team for an accumulation of minor charges (weed, traffic related) and nobody was too upset about it.

Baker might be our most talented wideout (certainly the best blocking one), Barker seems to be the future, and Dubose is a promising prospect as well. However, with two incidents (assuming this is a true report) in under a year, you have to worry about guys who will eventually be leading the team setting a bad example or creating a toxic environment. If these were UL players, this board would be saying this was typical thug behavior under Petrino.

Look, I hope they're innocent as much as the next guy. These are three of the most gifted athletes on the roster. However, I'm in college and I would NEVER shoot anything resembling a gun on campus or assault someone. The EKU player seems to be an ass, and I don't know the full story, but there are rarely times when smashing a bottle over someone's head and ganging up 3 to 1 is an appropriate reaction. I hope he makes a full recovery and I hope that depending on the outcome of this, the proper actions are taken.

This is not "boys will be boys" or "young kids these days," this is outright stupidity and unacceptable if true.
This post was edited on 1/27 10:47 PM by germuk
Two incidents? One involved a pellet gun. The other involved a fight with a guy who sounds like he was overdue (bragged about throwing beer bottles at Nerlens Noel's car, etc.) having a UK player stand up to him. Sorry but this is nothing, even if it is 2 incidents. Two benign incidents does not add up to a serious incident.
If I walked around campus shooting an airsoft gun or anything resembling a gun, what would happen to me, as a regular student? A visit with the dean, I'd probably lose my scholarship, and possibly be expelled.

If I smashed a bottle on someone's head? Assault charges.

I probably don't have to show evidence of anyone being arrested for the second, as assault isn't exactly uncommon, but people have been arrested for toy guns on school property before too.


http://www.nbc-2.com/story/27860726/marco-island-schools-put-on-precautionary-lockdown
 
If it's true, then kick these guys out. No reason to suck on AND off the field. Absolutely pathetic.
 
A picture of the "Nerlins" tweet can be found @ bluegrasspreps.com. Go to page 12 of the thread entitled "Dorian Baker and Drew Barker".
 
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