Did you forget about the buyout? We couldn't even fire him after the loss to Oakland!
BTW, serious question: Should Painter have also been fired after the loss to St Peters?
As I feared, Barnhart is failing
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Did you forget about the buyout? We couldn't even fire him after the loss to Oakland!
BTW, serious question: Should Painter have also been fired after the loss to St Peters?
The Cal/Mitch disconnect begins and ends with the fact Cal never respected Mitch as a boss and Mitch never held him accountable and let him run the program with complete autonomy from the athletic dept.
He’s failed the basketball program at every turn besides hiring cal. Hiring Billy, letting cal bully him into that contract, doing nothing to improve to crowd atmosphere at Rupp, our awful uniforms we had for way too long, new floor at Rupp built like crap so we had to give it back, and now 0/2 in a very public manner
Mitch needs to GO
Mitch needs to GO
Don't forget the Oats debacle if we're to believe he reached out to him first--but didn't want to pay a buyout or get a confirmation from Oats that he'd come before telling Greg Byrne to reduce the Buyout.
The handling of things has been amateur hour. That being said, it's all going to be about the actual hire. So he's got to either land someone or step out of the way and let those who know people and how to do this get it done.
They don't listen to Mitch or anyone. They don't even listen to themselves. It was clear that they listen only to God, and after a night of praying, they felt comfortable staying put.
Not a Mitch failure.
how is he messing up? Pitino was our 2nd or 3rd choice, cal wasn’t the first choice. Please elaborate. Hurley was a pipe dream. So he misses on one very high man of faith that didn’t want to leave a Baptist university. Not understanding why people are freaking out.
Not improving the facilities for Basketball can be added which is a big deal with prospective coaches. He was so hellbent on digging in with a "fight" with Cal that he hurt the program for the next people to run things.
Seems odd these other schools hired guys like Hurley, but UK couldn't have? Why? We know why, Barnhart is why.
I've thought about it more, and you're right. Really thinking about it, the plane tracking and restaurant calling is absolutely lunacy in my opinion. Some people can't wrap their heads around boundaries. At first I simplified it as being passionate, but yeah, you've nailed it.
I don't hate Matt Jones, but he has been loving those actions and thinks it's great, the phone call one especially.
Agree…As a failing coach once said ‘Playing at Kentucky is not for everybody!’. That applies to coaches as well.
I'm not giving up at all. I just don't trust Barnhart. 0 for 2 and counting. He's the one who hired BCG.
So if that was known....which it should be seeing Mitch is in the SEC with Greg Byrne--why the hell would he waste time in the first place? There's a lot of moving goalposts that don't add up.
I know this--Greg Byrne got word that some big jobs were going to come open and didn't wait for Oats to get more $, extended, etc...he took care of things albeit prior to the surprising Final Four run and after having to only take less than 2 days to replace Nick Saban--you know a guy who left as still having elite results unlike Cal.
What other schools hired a coach like Hurley? That’s ridiculous. Again, what could he have done differently to sway Hurley?
Hurley was very unlikely. Someone posted in another thread that Bama got told no twice in replacing Saban.
This is part of the process. Mitch is doing everything right and he will get us the right coach.
This is part of the process. Mitch is doing everything right and he will get us the right coach.
I’d go after Golden….young and hungry. Donovan was at Marshall, Hurley was at Rhode Island, and Oats from Buffalo. We don’t have to take a coach quite that level of unproven, but Golden has acclimated to the Power 5 level pretty well. He is also analytics driven and a hard worker.
At this point I would just take a chance on a young guy like Golden.Wouldn't have to pay much and not hard to get rid of if he fails.
Yep we gave Cal too much time to fix things. Should have had a plan 2 years ago for this scenario.
Okay, you are losing it Go look at Hurley's record before he was hired at UConn and his first 4 years at Uconn. It wasn't good at all. Do you seriously think UK should hire someone with those credentials and HOPE that he somehow wins back to back titles?
How so? It turns out the first two candidates were never coming here no matter what the deal is.
Sheesh - I don't understand why so many people are so eager to fire Mitch.
Sheesh - I don't understand why so many people are so eager to fire Mitch.
No I don't trust him. I've been all over him this week. But today he did something that shocked me. $12.5m / year offer to Hurley? Really not much else you can do if the guy says no.
It really does feel like he did things out of order and now is hosed as a result.
You also can take all of that Tier 1 coaching $ and apply it to Staff/NIL/Recruiting $.
I'm confident Golden is going to be successful and may as well grow within the program. I mean he's won more SEC Tournament games in his 2 yrs at UF then Cal has in last 5.
He went after a guy who’s been rooted at a program for 22 years and who has values beyond money and recognition. Then he allegedly offered the moon to the hottest name in coaching right now. We aren’t so entitled that anyone we offer is obligated to accept. Coaching at UK isn’t easy nor for everyone. This very forum is an indication of how demanding and unreasonable our fanbase can be. In this day and age of Social media, we bare our asses in a very public way. Sometimes no amount of money can make someone want to deal with that. What else is Barnhart supposed to do to seal the deal so he’s not a “complete mess”.
I just hope all the uk fans who bad mouthed cal are happy. A bunch of entitled fans. You thought we could get anybody we wanted. Guaranteed a bunch of middle aged and older fans who are stuck in the 90’s think that way. Its a new day and time for new faces. Get off the old guys and get behind mitch to get some up and coming guys.
You're proving my point. Barnhart should know Drew well enough to know he wouldn't take it. Stories are they are close friends.
If we had hired Hurley at the time this board would have imploded.
Nah it still is.
Only offered two people so far and both were basically impossibilities for any job to ever pry them out of their current situations.
Guy in Gods Will is NOT budging.
Guy who wins B2B titles is NOT budging.
In the paraphrased words of our former coach:
"Coaching searches arent for everybody"
"Coaching searches arent for everybody"
The failure is that Barnhart and Drew are close friends reportedly. He should know how much faith plays into Drew's life and family.
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