Archie Miller says
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You're missing the point.
People keep saying IU isn't worthy, and they have to earn the right to play us.
And that's backed up by IU only making the tournament 4 times under Crean.
But the "cupcakes." Haven't earned the right to play us, and most of them haven't been to the tourney as much as IU in the past decade.
So why is it we don't care if the cupcakes have earned it, But Indiana has to prove something to us first?
People keep saying that those games or cupcakes and everyone plays cupcakes, but as bad as you are telling me the Indiana is, are they not also a cupcake?
People keep saying that those games or cupcakes and everyone plays cupcakes, but as bad as you are telling me the Indiana is, are they not also a cupcake?
I admire your persistence. But, I think you have missed the point. We don't need IU. They need us. They are trying to get back to some kind of glory of the past and there is no need for us to help them get there.
IU is not a cupcake or a relevant current national powerhouse program. They are in the middle looking to move up. They know that they need us to get there. Why give them that shot when they are a classless program with classless fans?
Explain to me what team on our schedule we "need."
You don't play teams because you need them.
Honestly if everyone said they were really mean the last time we played them, that would at least make sense. But your holier than thou we're better than you attitudes is laughable when we're not better than cupcakes.
And seriously LOL at the notion we don't want IU because they're a middle team. That's typically a positive on your resume.
You're wrong. He clearly explained it to you and like 99.9% of UK fans agree. No offense, honestly , but stop back pedaling.
The comparison you're trying to make is just moot.
IU needs us, we don't need them and I very much hope we never give them the satisfaction of gracing ourselves to them by playing / renewing a series
I'm wrong on an opinion?
It's this douchebag holier than thou, "we're better than you" mentality, and It's ****ing pathetic. It makes me sad to be a part of this fan base.
I haven't once back pedaled. I'm saying your points don't line up.
Team A can't be so bad that we shouldn't play them, but team B who is worse in all the ways you mention is ok because they're super bad--and team A just doesn't help us to play.
That's the dumbest $hit I've ever heard.
You don't help a rival like IU get back on their feet. What's gonna help iu more? A prime time win over Kentucky or a random game against Marquette? Obviously if we play them and they win, they get to claim to be back and get so much positive press out of that. Why do we need to offer them the chance for that? Screw IU. We either need guaranteed wins or statement wins. We don't need IU. Not that hard to understand.
I never said we didn't want them because of they are a middle team. You were trying to argue they are an elite blueblood. Stay focused. You are tripping all over yourself.
The game only helps IU. Someone on here argued the point with me, but, if it wasn't in IU's best interest they would not want it so badly. Screw em.
Screw some whose your moma,whose your daddy Hoosier, Kentucky does not need to assist them in any way....!!!!!!
Was the first Zelda game out the last time IU won the title?
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I just don't like IU. I could care less whether or not our playing them helps or not. I just don't want to ever see one of their games again. GO CATS!!
Cupcakes are only home games or games to spread the UK gospel. Unless a team is a friend Cal.
Currently IU is not deserving.., I'm sure Cal would take a home and home or game in Vegas.
Man, I don't think you are able to accept the answer.
Again, you refuse to accept that scheduling Indiana and scheduling the SCLSU muddogs is apples to Oranges comparisons.
Sure, you are technically correct, if Monmouth hasn't earned it then hey, Indiana doesn't have to earn it. But that's only if you leave rational thought and understanding about historical precedent and they way scheduling works out of the equation. Simply put, you're ignoring the main story and being a bit ignorant.
I have no problem if you would like the game scheduled. Thats your ooinion. Would it be fun? Sure. Is it traditional? Sure. But Indiana has a standard that they failed to maintain. They were a very competitive rival and blood at one time. Tied with us in championships until 96, and they absolutely loathe UK. They aren't just any cupcake.
You do not offer a lifeline to a dying enemy who could do you harm. If it wasn't at that point, and it couldn't hurt, I'd agree, play them. But they might never recover if they dont motion upward in the next 20 years.
You're thinking about it wrong. Let them die brother.
If any side is ignorant, it's the notion that UK is their only chance for "prominence."
We didn't play them this past year.
They played Kansas and UNC.
They've got Louisville the next 2 years.
They've got UNC again in 2018.
They're going to have big time games with or without us.
Us not playing them isn't going to keep them down. If they're good, they will rise.
If they suck, us playing them isn't going to save them.
You act as if UK once a year will make or break them. I assure you, you're overvaluing it.
I'd like to see us play IU again. Maybe it isn't every year, but I think at neutral sites is fine.
I guess I remember the great 90s neutral site games and enjoyed them. But I also enjoy beating them most every year and holding it over IU fans heads.
I guess I remember the great 90s neutral site games and enjoyed them. But I also enjoy beating them most every year and holding it over IU fans heads.
I cede the point that a UK / IU game isn't the deciding factor when it comes to Indiana relevance. That's common sense. But they are a special case, and you're being too simple about it.
If you cant accept and admit Kentucky scheduling Indiana right after a new and young coach has been named could help their cause, there's nothing more to discuss. You're just wrong.
We're not even discussing the other part of this, their fans violent behavior toward our players and Kentucky's program. Their coach saying they wanted MORE nastiness.
-Dying program
-Irrelevant historical blue blood
-Heated rival who tried to bring this program down for years.
-Disgusting fan base that wants to use tbe Kentucky game to bolster their new coach and program in tbe perception department.
No thanks.
Haven't read all the posts, but has anyone mentioned that Cal had a poll to remove a team from our out of conference schedule due to SEC expansion and IIRC IUsedtobe was the resounding winner before we even went to ASS Hall? That experience just solidified it.
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