With some of the better teams leaving the Big 12 and with the SEC expansion it’s going to be easier for Kansas to get more regular season wins and it will be more difficult for Kentucky to expand the lead. Also, didn’t Kansas have to forfeit some wins a few years ago? And it’s just a 5 game lead now?Self is the King of regular season dominance. As long as he is at KU it's gonna be tough to stay ahead of them.
Thanks to Calipari, North Carolina has gotten uncomfortably close to us as well.Inherited a slim lead.
When Cal took over as coach we were only 4 games ahead of UNC.Thanks to Calipari, North Carolina has gotten uncomfortably close to us as well.
Wait a minute… you’re using facts to disprove an opinion. Is that allowed?When Cal took over as coach we were only 4 games ahead of UNC.
This doesn’t make sense how is it easier for Kansas to rack up wins when you add Arizona and Houston to the conference and even BYU has NIL money that is making them a legit wildcard.With some of the better teams leaving the Big 12 and with the SEC expansion it’s going to be easier for Kansas to get more regular season wins and it will be more difficult for Kentucky to expand the lead. Also, didn’t Kansas have to forfeit some wins a few years ago? And it’s just a 5 game lead now?
When Cal took over as coach we were only 4 games ahead of UNC.
Wrong. BYU has restrictions on players they can buy.This doesn’t make sense how is it easier for Kansas to rack up wins when you add Arizona and Houston to the conference and even BYU has NIL money that is making them a legit wildcard.
Why did you have to use facts to disprove an uneducated opinion lol?When Cal took over as coach we were only 4 games ahead of UNC.
Doesn’t help the ACC has tanked in quality lately too. It’s them Duke and occasionally UVA or another team that is good occasionally. Meanwhile SEC has gotten much better over the last 5 years.Thanks to Calipari, North Carolina has gotten uncomfortably close to us as well.
I hope we don’t but Self is tough.We will lose it this year.
Agree - it was ut and ou that left the B12, not the good teamsThis doesn’t make sense how is it easier for Kansas to rack up wins when you add Arizona and Houston to the conference and even BYU has NIL money that is making them a legit wildcard.
The thing people don't like to really admit is if you remove a ten year stretch where we caught lightening in a bottle with Pitino and then Cal this program has not been close to the gold standard over the last 40 years.Doesn't seem like they gained on us then.
Kansas on the other hand has been seemingly gaining for decades. I once looked up every coach Sutton to Cal and it hasn't been a great look for going on almost 40 years now.
Especially in the new conference alignments. The B12 is a glorified mid major now. It’s essentially conference USA rebranded w some old B12 holdovers. Go look at conference affiliation from 20 years ago to now.Self is the King of regular season dominance. As long as he is at KU it's gonna be tough to stay ahead of them.
Cincy is on the rise as well.This doesn’t make sense how is it easier for Kansas to rack up wins when you add Arizona and Houston to the conference and even BYU has NIL money that is making them a legit wildcard.
What? The B12 might be the best conference in basketball right now and is no doubt top 3. They lost Texas and OU but gained Arizona. They have Kansas, Houston, Baylor, Arizona, and might be adding UConn. Iowa St. is also a top program at the moment and BYU looks to be on the rise with their new coach.The B12 is a glorified mid major now.
Don't forget we were built for March so the regular season didn't matter.With some of the better teams leaving the Big 12 and with the SEC expansion it’s going to be easier for Kansas to get more regular season wins and it will be more difficult for Kentucky to expand the lead. Also, didn’t Kansas have to forfeit some wins a few years ago? And it’s just a 5 game lead now?
Don't forget we were built for March so the regular season didn't matter.
Pretty sure Cal wasn't building for either. Certainly wasn't coaching for either.Don't forget we were built for March so the regular season didn't matter.
Didn't some of their wins happen when they played for the bread championship?Doesn't seem like they gained on us then.
Kansas on the other hand has been seemingly gaining for decades. I once looked up every coach Sutton to Cal and it hasn't been a great look for going on almost 40 years now.
Because of the opponent. Providence wasn’t nearly as good as the two powerhouses we lost to in ‘22 and ‘24.It's ironic the weakest of our last 3 teams is the only one that won a ncaa tourney game.
Wonder if they could put the all -time winning percentage beside the win totals?With some of the better teams leaving the Big 12 and with the SEC expansion it’s going to be easier for Kansas to get more regular season wins and it will be more difficult for Kentucky to expand the lead. Also, didn’t Kansas have to forfeit some wins a few years ago? And it’s just a 5 game lead now?
And thanks to Calipari, our lead over UNC over the last 4 seasons has gone from 42 to only a 26 game lead. Not to mention the fact that if the NCAA didn't strip Kansas of 15 wins that they would have a 10 game lead over us. If The Kentucky men's basketball program was a country. Calipari would have just about taken us to 3rd world status.When Cal took over as coach we were only 4 games ahead of UNC.
This is football thinking. Basketball has more "major" conferences in it's history. The names are often evolving. Big East. Metro. Conference USA. Missouri Valley. Mountain West Schools outside the football conferences have often thrived and some have had mini dynasties. Now, maybe money gets that more in line, but not yet.Especially in the new conference alignments. The B12 is a glorified mid major now. It’s essentially conference USA rebranded w some old B12 holdovers. Go look at conference affiliation from 20 years ago to now.
Meanwhile, the traditional power brands have all came to the SEC or B10
St. Peter's was a well coached team. We never ever should've lost to them but they played solid. And we choked. Awful loss, but it's not completely inexplicable logically speaking. They also beat an upstart Murray and Purdue, so they earned a bit of their wins. Again, we were up 6 and never ever should've lost it.Because of the opponent. Providence wasn’t nearly as good as the two powerhouses we lost to in ‘22 and ‘24.
I can't imagine UCONN leaving the BIg East. It will kill that conference basketball wise. They'll still have some decent teams in there in the likes of Marquette and St. John's, but the rest is very inconsistent (teams like Xavier, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Butler CAN be good, but it's hit or miss). But there's no doubt who is the centerpiece of that conference atm.What? The B12 might be the best conference in basketball right now and is no doubt top 3. They lost Texas and OU but gained Arizona. They have Kansas, Houston, Baylor, Arizona, and might be adding UConn. Iowa St. is also a top program at the moment and BYU looks to be on the rise with their new coach.
So if you remove almost 60% of our history over the last 40 years, in other words?The thing people don't like to really admit is if you remove a ten year stretch where we caught lightening in a bottle with Pitino and then Cal this program has not been close to the gold standard over the last 40 years.
Didn't some of their wins happen when they played for the bread championship?
You're absolutely right, but as Kentucky fans, we want it all. That just comes with the pedigree.They have played more games no doubt.
I have tried to argue on here winning percentage is more telling a stat but the majority of this board disagreed.
I don’t want any other team to have a stat over us. I want to be the Yankees where there can be no denial in UK’s status as the best.You're absolutely right, but as Kentucky fans, we want it all. That just comes with the pedigree.
I’ve said this before and will again.
Eventually Kansas will own that stat because they are more consistent than Kentucky or UNC. We have higher highs, and lower lows than they do.