Even then that’s a lot for a guy like jasper. I’m glad they got him but these numbers being reported are ridiculousJasper probably got a million. Took the home town discount
Even then that’s a lot for a guy like jasper. I’m glad they got him but these numbers being reported are ridiculousJasper probably got a million. Took the home town discount
I don’t know what the NIL budgets are for the top CBB programs (someone here can probably tell us what the average likely is), but if I assume it’s somewhere around $5-$7 Million then paying Dybantsa that kind money can’t be about winning games. It might be about BYU’s stature or profile and be deemed an expected positive return on investment for the program in the long run, but it’s not about winning games next season.I also want to say:
I worry about the rather rapid increases in the NIL cost of top recruits. 7 million for AJ. Number 1 next year will be 8 or 10. We'll see teams costing 25, 30, and one day even 50 million. This is completely unsustainable.
I don't care about rich people's money. I hope our richest will pour billions into NIL. But at some point, the rapid increases become problematic.
Rumor has it, his going price is between 6 and 7 million, hell that is way more than most of the NBA make.Atleast not KU or NC
Why would they not give Pope an open check book?The average college basketball fan has no idea who Kevin Young is. Everyone knows who John Calipari is.
Again BYU fans are happy because they think he’s an upgrade and the big money seems to agree because they are giving him blank checks which they didn’t want to give Pope.
I’m not saying it’s true. I’m just giving you what the consensus is among BYU fans.
How? UK doesn't have that kind of $ to throw at 1 playerWould have been a Cat if Cal had stayed. Probably still would have lost 10 plus games though.
Kevin Young was not a “big name” in anything but coaching circles.
The fact is BYU fans feel they got an upgrade over Pope and the big money said they’d fund it which they didn’t want to do with Pope for whatever reason.
Dude you have no idea what you’re talking about. BYU’s NIL riches aren’t suddenly coming from “the fans” . It is coming from Ryan Smith the Utah Jazz owner who has a personal relationship with Kevin Young. People around college basketball have been talking about it since the day he was hired.The average college basketball fan has no idea who Kevin Young is. Everyone knows who John Calipari is.
Again BYU fans are happy because they think he’s an upgrade and the big money seems to agree because they are giving him blank checks which they didn’t want to give Pope.
I’m not saying it’s true. I’m just giving you what the consensus is among BYU fans.
The guy you are responding to doesn’t know anything about the situation.Why would they not give Pope an open check book?
The “boosters” are not sinking more money into the nil . ONE person is. Ryan Smith, owner of the Jazz who has a personal relationship with Kevin Young.Cool for them. Definitely seems like an awesome get.
Time will tell about the whole Kevin Young vs Mark Pope thing. Obviously BYU is not Kentucky. But all the same if Young really has money to be throwing $3–$4 million (or “close to $7 million” 😱??) a pop at players and he’s also a better coach or even as good a coach as Mark Pope then what’s holding him back this season?
He did have four fewer days to recruit compared to Pope. But he also brought back 29.2 points and 11 rebounds from last year compared to 21.5 points and 3.8 rebounds Pope brought back in Jaxson Robinson. The difference in the results so far is being #5 vs. being unranked (47 in Kenpom) with losses to then-#19 Ole Miss at a neutral site (but much much closer to BYU and its time zone than to Mississippi) and Providence (Kenpom 80) on the road. (For comparison last year in week 6 Pope had BYU ranked #18 with one loss to top-30 Utah on the road—— not a fair direct comparison since Pope had an established team at the time. But it does establish BYU is a rankable school in the modern era.)
You could definitely say Pope had an advantage in that he brought existing assistants with him. But while Cody Fueger is a powerhouse, the only other assistant Pope brought from BYU is Nick Robinson. Nick is director of basketball operations and so probably has about zero to do with us winning any games.
If BYU boosters really are sinking a lot more money into Kevin Young than they did into Mark Pope I’m just not sure they’re going moon-eyed over the right guy.
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What do I know. Good luck to ‘em.
Good question.....So just curious if he will be required to tithe on his 7 million dollar salary?
That’s bullshit . We would have never paid that . Cal is supposed to have unlimited “chicken money” . Why did he not consider Arky?Would have been a Cat if Cal had stayed. Probably still would have lost 10 plus games though.
Rumor was 4-5 million range. He also has a lucrative endorsement deal with Red Bull. I'm sure a shoe company will also sign him.He must have got PAID.
Why would any booster dump millions of dollars into NIL? What is the ROI for them? I realize I can't think in terms of the money some of these big money donors have to throw around but to put it in a frame of reference I can understand, donating 10% a year to a church or charity for a tax write off is silly as your actual tax liability would be much less than the $10K. Do they just give out of love for the university?
It would have been interesting to see how that worked out.Glad it wasn’t KU. They already landed Peterson who imo is top 1 or 2
Good points and well written.Cool for them. Definitely seems like an awesome get.
Time will tell about the whole Kevin Young vs Mark Pope thing. Obviously BYU is not Kentucky. But all the same if Young really has money to be throwing $3–$4 million (or “close to $7 million” 😱??) a pop at players and he’s also a better coach or even as good a coach as Mark Pope then what’s holding him back this season?
He did have four fewer days to recruit compared to Pope. But he also brought back 29.2 points and 11 rebounds from last year compared to 21.5 points and 3.8 rebounds Pope brought back in Jaxson Robinson. The difference in the results so far is being #5 vs. being unranked (47 in Kenpom) with losses to then-#19 Ole Miss at a neutral site (but much much closer to BYU and its time zone than to Mississippi) and Providence (Kenpom 80) on the road. (For comparison last year in week 6 Pope had BYU ranked #18 with one loss to top-30 Utah on the road—— not a fair direct comparison since Pope had an established team at the time. But it does establish BYU is a rankable school in the modern era.)
You could definitely say Pope had an advantage in that he brought existing assistants with him. But while Cody Fueger is a powerhouse, the only other assistant Pope brought from BYU is Nick Robinson. Nick is director of basketball operations and so probably has about zero to do with us winning any games.
If BYU boosters really are sinking a lot more money into Kevin Young than they did into Mark Pope I’m just not sure they’re going moon-eyed over the right guy.
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What do I know. Good luck to ‘em.
Now that’s who I really wanted at UK. He has such a mature game .Glad it wasn’t KU. They already landed Peterson who imo is top 1 or 2
Then said… We will break the NIL record. He’s worth it. No freshman is worth it.It was funny that his dad actually tried to debunk the”it is all about the money”, to make it seem like the coach/school relationship mattered.
That's still quite an escalation of max price. It's not only going to be necessary to have a lot of NIL; spending it wisely is also going to be important. Luckily, our coach seems to be good at math and strategy.Goodman says $7 million is wrong. He says it was $4-5 million.
If money didn't matter I'd like to have the kid; he's going to be a star. But for that money you can get any upperclass star and I'd rather have him for one year.Then said… We will break the NIL record. He’s worth it. No freshman is worth it.
He is going to party like a rockstar there.Rumor was 4-5 million range. He also has a lucrative endorsement deal with Red Bull. I'm sure a shoe company will also sign him.
At BYU there's no pressure and plenty of shots to pad stats. Dybantsa will make Jimmer Ferdette look like a facilitator.
Yep I read where Smith said he would open his checkbook for Young. Would not get outbid.Dude you have no idea what you’re talking about. BYU’s NIL riches aren’t suddenly coming from “the fans” . It is coming from Ryan Smith the Utah Jazz owner who has a personal relationship with Kevin Young. People around college basketball have been talking about it since the day he was hired.
We were the leader for him before Cal left. Imo we would have gotten him. So sorry my opinion upsets you so much lol.That’s bullshit . We would have never paid that . Cal is supposed to have unlimited “chicken money” . Why did he not consider Arky?
A factor that’s being overlooked is timing.Why would they not give Pope an open check book?
They knew KY was Pope’s dream job, perhaps.According to what I’ve gathered they wouldn’t open the checkbook up for Pope but would for Kevin Young.
And the shorts are too damn baggy and doin' away with Freshman junior varsity was the road to ruination and don't get me started on the alternate possession, that ain't no jump ball!!!!!Im excited he didn't come to Kentucky.
AJ Dybantsa is a user. Just like Calipari. Just like most of the players Calipari brought here. I don't want users at Kentucky. I want players that want to represent Kentucky for Kentucky not because it gets them to the NBA before they've even played a game here.
Good luck to all the Dybantsa's coming up, but please, move along. You aren't needed here.
There was no “leader” at that point. Just speculation. And no one thought he would go for seven million either . We would not have been in the game .We were the leader for him before Cal left. Imo we would have gotten him. So sorry my opinion upsets you so much lol.
Do not pay attention to that dude man . Go look in his posting history. Ryan Smith is funding the Dybantsa NIL deal . He is close to Kevin Young . It’s not the “fans are giving more because they view Young as an upgrade “ .They knew KY was Pope’s dream job, perhaps.
No kid should make more than their own coach for any reason. That's asking for problems.That amount for essentially 6-7 months is crazy
How? We were worse under NIL with Cal. No way we could have matched thatWe were the leader for him before Cal left. Imo we would have gotten him. So sorry my opinion upsets you so much lol.
“Some “ people thought UK had a good chance because AJ looked up to Terrence Clark . That’s where it starts and ends . It was all wild speculation.How? We were worse under NIL with Cal. No way we could have matched that
I’m with you on that one. If the kid had chosen another blueblood, maybe we could say that was possible. He went to BYU —- clearly wanted the bag.“Some “ people thought UK had a good chance because AJ looked up to Terrence Clark . That’s where it starts and ends . It was all wild speculation.
Yeah , if a person wants to say “if not for the NIL I believe we would have gotten him “ it would make a lot more sense . Cal leaving didn’t cause it .I’m with you on that one. If the kid had chosen another blueblood, maybe we could say that was possible. He went to BYU —- clearly wanted the bag.
Best possible outcome, it shows that kid only cared about the $ tho. I guarantee they paid the most by far.I really really don't understand that, but yes, at least not to a blueblood.
AD level freshman are, he most likely will be but these kids don’t have that drive the older kids had IMO because they already get paid enough money at 18 than most make in their lives. Even if the AD’s got money or whatever to come it wasn’t close to what it is now.Then said… We will break the NIL record. He’s worth it. No freshman is worth it.
That’s why we must land Wilson, I think he is in that tier of player honestly.Now that’s who I really wanted at UK. He has such a mature game .
Peterson and Dybantsa faced off this past weekend . Both played great