Fair points. I know that Riley at USC has eviscerated OU’s recruiting class.
It’s just a really bad look, and frankly unethical the way Wolford has handled his job change. Not much we can do about it unfortunately.
According to Matt Jones, Eric Wolford is not a class act
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It’s just a really bad look, and frankly unethical the way Wolford has handled his job change. Not much we can do about it unfortunately.
Other than the not coming back to Lexington to face his players like a man I do not take issue with it. People change jobs after 1 year all the time now in payroll/finance and other industries I come into contact with so do not blame him for taking a job at Alabama when that is a better one on paper (on paper, before everyone on here gets all butt hurt).
He obviously was not a good fit at KY and Stoops will find someone that hopefully wants to be here a while this time around and not just use UK as a stepping stone to get to a place like Alabama. Continuality is important, but as I mentioned above, in this world/job market people change jobs a ton.
Your missing the point Rucker, none of that changes that it's a classless move, especially given the circumstances. Just because it may be more common than we know its still classless each time but especially given the circumstances outlined by many here. Circumstance matter and in this case it was a prick move the way he handled plain and simple.
Recruiting for one school one day and another the next is not classless- it's how it's done in college football when coaches change jobs. That's my point. Again, you have a new assistant accused of the same thing previously-- but then again, any coach who changes schools likely would be accused of this. What was Wolford and Alabama supposed to do? Accept the job then sit in the penalty box for several days before recruiting?
As for any other unethical or classless stuff Wolford may have done ( like not telling his plays bye), I will not defend him on any of those things. I agree with you 100%.
I agree....Wolford is fine to take a job with Bama...makes sense to get to work wtih all that talent to 'be part of that on your resume'.
But to not at least come back to talk to the OLine group and say goodbye is crossing a line of being a decent human being. I mean guys on the Oline sweat and bleed for the good of QB, RB, WR, etc...with maybe the least recognition of them all (everybody slurps over Levis, Wandale and CRod.....the best offensive players was probably Kinnard all along)....was it that much to come say goodbye to Cox, Horsey, all the young OLine in that room?
Not really wishing you good luck at Bama....but I do root for Sumrall at Troy. He actually gave a crap about guys like Square, DeRyck Jackson, etc..
Rucker son once again you missed the point. Seem to be struggling with the concept of understanding circumstances. Were any of the other coaches you keep trying to state your case with brought in out of a job mid season and GIVEN a job after one of the most beloved and respected Oline coaches it he country passed away? And were they handed the keys to one of the best lines in the country for a program that had already built a national brand for his position in a program that has also prided itself on a family culture? And then you leave without telling anyone boo?
Are you really stil having trouble understanding the difference here? If so that may just be a cultural difference between how folks in our part of the country see things vs. others.
I do understand: You are pissed that Wolford disrespected UK because you felt he "owed" Stoops and UK something for the circumstances in which he came. Am I right? Sorry guy, you need to understand better how some play the game in the world of Power 5 college football. There's not program in America that hasn't had their ass fried at least once.
And let's not even go there on trying to frame up cultural differences of Iowa or Midwest to Kentucky or your part of the country. For you to suggest one part of the country has low ethics puts a question mark on you in fact for wanting to state that case. And I'd be curious to know if you were taking such a stand if the situation were completely reversed and UK was the benefactor here. I doubt it.
Coaches can absolutely quit with no notice, change their Twitter bio, and start recruiting the same kids for another school; while not even bothering to return to campus.
They can do it. But when they do, it absolutely makes them a sh1tbag. Not because they owe some sense of loyalty to a school, but because at this level anyone with even an ounce of decency would've handled this situation better.
They can do it. But when they do, it absolutely makes them a sh1tbag. Not because they owe some sense of loyalty to a school, but because at this level anyone with even an ounce of decency would've handled this situation better.
Well said. This is the harsh reality. As people, we can all choose which path to handle things-- decency or classless.
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You got to feel bad for the wife’s of coaches like Wolford. For all we know his wife and children might have loved being in Lexington. Got to consider is more money always worth up rooting. I am sure he could have leveraged more money from CMS. He wanted out of here and not sure about how our other coaches felt. Next coach hopefully is a home run hire.
You know what I feel sorry for regarding Wolford's wife and kid? Not the money issue at all. Instead, the fact she's obviously married to a guy with massive character flaws and ultimately their kids will be exposed to them too. Who knows-- maybe she already knew this.
Just because you win doesn't make you a winner.
Saban is a LOSER, in more ways than just the scoreboard. Lost all respect for this POS.
Agreed it was pretty shitty for Wolford not to meet with his players prior to his ass hauling. Otherwise, it's the way this game is played. Get the best players possible by about any means possible. Wasn't Cousins/Wall committed or at least "all but committed" to Memphis when Calipari came to UK?
The Wolford situation coming to light explains why we may have had a harder time landing some of the line commits over the last year.
Recruits can sense when someone is committed to a program as a coach and player.
Us missing on or having difficulty landing a few people on the OL that we seemed to be in a good position with was head scratching at the time. Frustrating that the staff has put in that much work for years and one bad apple nearly cost us quite a bit. Hope they can get someone that might come close to what Coach Schlarman was in all phases as an OL coach.
Recruits can sense when someone is committed to a program as a coach and player.
Us missing on or having difficulty landing a few people on the OL that we seemed to be in a good position with was head scratching at the time. Frustrating that the staff has put in that much work for years and one bad apple nearly cost us quite a bit. Hope they can get someone that might come close to what Coach Schlarman was in all phases as an OL coach.
And Cal did it right by meeting with his players as a team and individually about his job departure.
Calipari decides to leave Memphis for Kentucky
John Calipari has accepted an offer to coach Kentucky.
I'm not saying this to defend him but there really isn't a whole lot ethical in football recruiting. Basketball and baseball recruiting have more ethical guidelines they follow than football. It doesn't mean every recruiter does or that it's ok. But football is a pull out all the stops fight til the death and get the signature however you can type deal.
Wolford was considered a solid to good coach before coming in. I keep seeing stuff like it was just a pity hire or something.
Obviously, the head coach and we as fans in no way want something like this to happen. But, look around, it's happening everyday at major P5 programs. We want UK to contend for a place at the table. That means stuff like this is bound to happen.
We're gonna have to open our eyes to what bigtime college football really is. It's something pretty seedy and a LOT of stuff goes on that you'd rather not know about.
UK is fortunate to me a member of the SEC and this conference ain't for programs that do everything above board and by the book. Hell, apparently TAMU just spent $30 million on their #1 recruiting class! The money came from NIL deals arranged by big time donors through shell LLC's. That stuff may be legal now but, it stinks to the high heavens. And you know it's been going on there and at Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, etc. for years when it wasn't legal!
We're gonna have to open our eyes to what bigtime college football really is. It's something pretty seedy and a LOT of stuff goes on that you'd rather not know about.
UK is fortunate to me a member of the SEC and this conference ain't for programs that do everything above board and by the book. Hell, apparently TAMU just spent $30 million on their #1 recruiting class! The money came from NIL deals arranged by big time donors through shell LLC's. That stuff may be legal now but, it stinks to the high heavens. And you know it's been going on there and at Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, etc. for years when it wasn't legal!
Yeah that’s my point. It stinks but the portion of fans that need things to be classy when something happens to us aren’t going to like playing in the deep end of the pool. Stuff gets messy.
I mean honestly, it’s like the player stuff and transfer portal. Fans have celebrated it because it helped us but from another perspective it screws younger kids on the depth chart that committed to the program out of high school. nobody seems to care much about that and it’s just ‘big boy up’ but now there’s some standard for Wolford. And look, from all that it sounds it may have been a jerk move the way it happens but this stuff has been happening a long time. Turning around and recruiting the next day, lack of communication during the time, etc…it may not be how we want it but it’s not all that unusual.
As someone mentioned earlier, its true, Wolf is an absolute character and not everyone's cup of tea. Can't say he handle the situation well but at same time can't fault a guy for trying to better his station in life. He went to Bama.. ain't like he jilted UK for UL or UT...
To show the guy a little grace, not sure if any of us can imagine how difficult it was for him to be in such a beloved deceased former coach such as John's shadow.
What's the saying? Be the one who followed the one who followed the legend.
To show the guy a little grace, not sure if any of us can imagine how difficult it was for him to be in such a beloved deceased former coach such as John's shadow.
What's the saying? Be the one who followed the one who followed the legend.
Good point, I don't think it was a pity hire, Stoops knew him and was looking for someone to follow John who had SEC experience and NFL experience.
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